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    Originally posted by Saam View Post

    All you have accomplished here is to show how much deeper our talent pool was back then compared to now. Add players like mobali, borhani, kaebi, navidkia, ando, shojaei, Kazemian, etc, etc who would easily walk into the current squad and you will realize the monumental upgrade cq was on a generation that was wasted and not developed thanks to having a Skokic type manager. CQ is on another level and you are just making yourself look embarrassing here
    Saam jan, I am confused. Are you saying talent pool was better before CQ set foot in Iran? If so, then why was CQ not able to develop good players during his eight years in charge? What is it that you like about CQ if he is not getting results and not developing players?

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      Lol at talent pool was better before cq came to iran.
      lol at Persians thinking other Persians have amnesia and say whatever they want regarding pre cq era...

      Rais e bademjona is a 🍅

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        Originally posted by PersianLion80 View Post

        I wouldn't say a fraud —he did a lot for our football-to be fair—but he's run his course for TM
        I'm being extreme. I'm demonstrating the irony and extremist tendencies of the CQoolaid drinkers. They throw bademjan yet at same time roll around in rotten skunk juice. Don't be surprised as they will start discussing tomatoes soon since they all smell of hypocrisy and skunkness!

        The prob with CQ is even if he had in a Lamborghini he would still park it to save gas in a drag race. Dude can find all the talent he wants but if he is unwilling to maximize the potential talent then what is the point? You have arguable a chance to have the best Iranian attacking lineup in Zahedi, Azmoun, and Taremi but instead you play bekesh ziresh and leave one at home. Even if Allahyar was fit I doubt CQ would invite him.



        Originally posted by kateb View Post

        Remember cq almost went to qatar after 2014 wc
        But he gave home town deal and stayed with tm..

        More fake news and propaganda. Cq was in top 10 highest paid coach yearly salary wise in WC 2018!

        Home town discount my a$$. Kateb what is it like to live under a rock?

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/...2018-earnings/

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          Originally posted by kateb View Post
          Lol at talent pool was better before cq came to iran.
          lol at Persians thinking other Persians have amnesia and say whatever they want regarding pre cq era...

          Rais e bademjona is a 🍅
          You are getting more insulting everyday. The pressure of promising good results with CQ and having to walk it back everyday must be getting to you.

          Saam said that talents such as mobali, borhani, kaebi, navidkia, ando, shojaei, Kazemian, etc, etc. in addition to Shojaie and Neku in Spain, Rezaie in Italy, Daei, Mahdavikia, Hashemian, Zandi in Germany could walk into current TM which you all agree is a team that is developed by CQ's. My question for him was why could CQ not develop similar talents in the 8+ yrs that he spent in Iran? If he is not developing players and not getting results, than why did Saam like CQ? No coach in the history of TM has had as long a rein as CQ to develop talents.

          Then you ran here connecting gooz to shaghigheh...​

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            Cq did what skocic could have never done
            with players who didn't respect him as coach
            get a w in a wc match.

            Cq return under the chaos
            Will be appreciate it by people who understand
            The game.
            Not one second I want convince the
            Bademjoonians about this fact.

            Rais 🍆is a 🍅

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              Originally posted by kateb View Post
              Cq did what skocic could have never done
              with players who didn't respect him as coach
              get a w in a wc match.

              Cq return under the chaos
              Will be appreciate it by people who understand
              The game.
              Not one second I want convince the
              Bademjoonians about this fact.

              Rais 🍆is a 🍅
              If CQ could do half what Skocic did at Skocic wage then we talk....all we can compare is WCQ and we know CQs 2 attempts didn't even come close to Skocic efforts 😉

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                Memo to the 🍆ians,
                SKOCIC HAS NO JOB OFFER
                while cq has offer from Asia defending champs.
                I guess no one understands soccer
                But the 🍆ians , who think Armani 🍆 was
                good enough for tm.
                It's NY day I don't want bademjoonians
                eat Brokkli,

                Rais bademjona is a 🍅

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                  Tuesday 1/3
                  there is meeting regarding tm coach

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                    -Skocic in under qualified no matter how much he cries about it , he just is

                    -CQ is qualified but his tactics are outdated he not going to have trouble getting us to the WC but once we there his style of play doesn’t work ..

                    -Iranian coaches are just under qualified , the players act up and won’t listen to them

                    - the best coach is someone who is very familiar with Iranian football / asian football understand all the weakness he have , but is also modern and up to date with modern football and the players will respect and not act up. … the best choice with be

                    HERVE RENARD IN MY OPINION

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                      Originally posted by Farzadfarhangni View Post

                      Saam jan, I am confused. Are you saying talent pool was better before CQ set foot in Iran? If so, then why was CQ not able to develop good players during his eight years in charge? What is it that you like about CQ if he is not getting results and not developing players?
                      I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say. TALENT. Do you know what talent means? It means natural gifts. Nobody DEVELOPS them? Who developed all of the players I listed? Was it Branko ivankovic? 🤣🤣. That was a golden generation of our football where we had a whole bunch of good players popping up.

                      Just like with Holland that right now they have the worst crop of players they’ve ever had. They have a couple of odd good players but they’re nowhere near where they traditionally are. Is that because of their coaches? No, that’s not how it works.

                      You’re using a criteria that nobody ever uses to judge a coach. A coach picks from the pool he has and then sets up the team.

                      in CQ’s defense, as I said, he put the youngsters in the best position to succeed and hit their ceilings by encouraging them to go to Europe early and created a culture of ambition.

                      Regardless, I did not bring up the talent in the past to say whether or not CQ is a good coach. I brought it up to contrast how bad our player pool was when he took over, such that he did a great job to bring us back to our high level. That, combined with the fact that the rest of Asia has progressed as well since the early 2000’s, shows that he did a great job. That’s all.

                      and who said he didn’t develop good players? Are you ok? Who brought in majid Hosseini, Hossein kanaani, helped Taremi reach his level, brought in exatollahi. Everybody that’s worth something on our team can partly thank cq for getting to where they are. The fact that we have NOBODY NEW since he left, completely contradicts what you just said in the quote above.

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                        Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                        If CQ could do half what Skocic did at Skocic wage then we talk....all we can compare is WCQ and we know CQs 2 attempts didn't even come close to Skocic efforts 😉

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                        What efforts? Qualifying Iran to the World Cup? CQ did that twice 😂😂. Bro you’re embarrassing yourself, I’m actually cringing.

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                          Originally posted by Saam View Post

                          What efforts? Qualifying Iran to the World Cup? CQ did that twice 😂😂. Bro you're embarrassing yourself, I'm actually cringing.
                          Bros. Cq qualified teams screwed by Wilmots? Had to win 4 in a row? Last I checked Cq team struggled to squeeze 1-0 wins. Why are you torturing yourself? Enough khodzani. Ok your papa CQ appreciates your defense of him. Enjoy Qatar! I'm actually genuinely worried about you? Are you trolling, obsessed, or choking on CQoolaid?

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                            Originally posted by kateb View Post
                            Lol at talent pool was better before cq came to iran.
                            lol at Persians thinking other Persians have amnesia and say whatever they want regarding pre cq era...

                            Rais e bademjona is a 🍅
                            Im a CQ fan as well, but it’s true FOR 2000-2007 only. From 2008-2011 when he came on, it was trash. And that’s not because of any coach. We just had a golden generation and then there was a bit of a drought. Cq inherited a mess and then our player pool now is much better thanks to cq’s setting of more professional standards in our football. Even if we have a talent drought, the attitude will result in better players, such as Jahanbakhsh. Not super talented but making the best of what they were born with. We never had that in our football pre-CQ. Example Ali Karimi, and many others I can name.

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                              Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                              Bros. Cq qualified teams screwed by Wilmots? Had to win 4 in a row? Last I checked Cq team struggled to squeeze 1-0 wins. Why are you torturing yourself? Enough khodzani. Ok your papa CQ appreciates your defense of him. Enjoy Qatar! I'm actually genuinely worried about you? Are you trolling, obsessed, or choking on CQoolaid?

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                              Brother my posts are cohesive, have logic, and elaborate with facts. Yours are filled with accusing people of being Qatar supporters and talking about stupid names like “cqoolaid”. It’s very obvious who is the one using their brain and who the clown 🤡 is. Enjoy your new year 😂

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                                Originally posted by Saam View Post

                                Brother my posts are cohesive, have logic, and elaborate with facts. Yours are filled with accusing people of being Qatar supporters and talking about stupid names like “cqoolaid”. It's very obvious who is the one using their brain and who the clown 🤡 is. Enjoy your new year 😂
                                Lol coherent. Even the crazies think they are coherent in their own minds. You are responding to my posts as one offs ignoring the previous poster I'm replying to. May you find salvation in 2023! You need it.

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