IT'S NOT FAIRLY THE COMPARASION BETWEEN IRAN AND OTHER ASIA TEAMS

[Scooter]

So much ignorant garbage written in this thread ranging from culture to tactics to the players themselves. CQ played with the best squad he thought would effectively execute his plan, on the pitch. Good or bad, CQ had little time with this team, and made the best decisions in the moment. Hindsight is always 20/20.
As for the rips on Iranian culture; there may be some kind of deference to "The West", but it is a flawed view. Iran has a rich culture that values important things that Americans simply do not. Just as an example: Iranians are far better academically, even if they are more emotional (which I don't view as a bad aspect). They are also more empathetic.

Regardless, not getting off-track, I don't think the idea that Iranians are good technically, but not tactically, is a myth. Anyone with eyes can see this in TM matches. When they are loose, they play with flair. Under pressure? They play poorly, and that's not due to CQ, or the TM coaching staff. It's due to the poor infrastructure, sports science, and the fact that it's difficult for Iranians to get noticed for higher quality leagues.

I could go on, but all the "arm-chair" coaches in here, with self-loathing about being Iranian (in general), are despicable. I realize there is no changing you, just as there is no changing the mentality of the current backwards-ass regime.

[aariaa]

I guess it has to do with Iran current and recent state and foreign medias linking us to backward terrorists left and right.

If it wasn't like that, Iranian would be more cocky and self confident

They do the same to Arabs, but they are still proud and self confident

[PSGman#19]

They do the same to Arabs, but they are still proud and self confident

Arabs got a lot of praise and hype also. And contrary to them, iranians knows they are worth much better all these stereotypes but take them and those who spread them too seriously.

Tell an Arab his language is ugly. Even if true, he won't care, will defend it and be proud of it.
Tell an Iranian, his language is ugly. Even if it is wrong, he will protest softly, will inconsciently think his language may be ugly for others and even say, I don't care my language is English, German, etc..

They are much more poroo than us

[Nokhodi]

Arabs got a lot of praise and hype also. And contrary to them, iranians knows they are worth much better all these stereotypes but take them and those who spread them too seriously.

Tell an Arab his language is ugly. Even if true, he won't care, will defend it and be proud of it.
Tell an Iranian, his language is ugly. Even if it is wrong, he will protest softly, will inconsistently think his language may be ugly for others and even say, I don't care my language is English, German, etc..

They are much more poroo than us

Turks are the same.

As an athlete you need to tell everyone outside your team to f*** off and play your game. Always believe you can win otherwise why compete ?

[Scooter]

Turks are the same.

As an athlete you need to tell everyone outside your team to f*** off and play your game. Always believe you can win otherwise why compete ?

Great statement, Nokh.

[webmaster]

We suck let's face the truth.

[Doctor DOOM]

Not only do I disagree with the heading (we did have decent friendlies ...), but also propose this:
even if you dont want to accept the reality, then try this:
We COULD HAVE repeated the 2nd half vs England and the entire game vs Wales.
Why didnt we?

No guts on part of the coach, in team selection, tactics, subbing, ....

[taremiscores]

Australia, South Korea, and Japan have thriving democracies and progressive societies. They have governments that have high levels of accountability and transparency and keep their wealth to improve their countries.

Iran has IR - a brutal, anti-Iranian dictatorship where the criminal regime who's goal is to plunder Iran of its wealth and steals money so their families can live in the West.

No need to look deeper than this on why some succeed and others don't. Look at all the countries left in the World Cup - all progressive, democratic societies. It's not a fluke. We have 43+ years of hard evidence of this.

[Iran_19]

We suck let's face the truth.

Pretty much this

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[PSGman#19]

Australia, South Korea, and Japan have thriving democracies and progressive societies. They have governments that have high levels of accountability and transparency and keep their wealth to improve their countries.

Iran has IR - a brutal, anti-Iranian dictatorship where the criminal regime who's goal is to plunder Iran of its wealth and steals money so their families can live in the West.

No need to look deeper than this on why some succeed and others don't. Look at all the countries left in the World Cup - all progressive, democratic societies. It's not a fluke. We have 43+ years of hard evidence of this.

We should compare us with poor African like Senegal instead of Japan. These poor African have at least players and systems that make everything to send players in Europe.

I know people are disappointed but we had the worst squad of group B, the worst fifa ranking, the worst gvt and country, and we still finished 3rd.

[taremiscores]

We should compare us with poor African like Senegal instead of Japan. These poor African have at least players and systems that make everything to send players in Europe.

I know people are disappointed but we had the worst squad of group B, the worst fifa ranking, the worst gvt and country, and we still finished 3rd.

The only way we can remain competitive in the current climate and 43 years terrible circumstances is because of our talent alone and gheyrat. That's the only thing keeping Iran afloat.

Senegal has a democracy and they are packed with great footballing talent - some of which grew up in Europe. Not comparable to Iran.

[PSGman#19]

The only way we can remain competitive in the current climate and 43 years terrible circumstances is because of our talent alone and gheyrat. That's the only thing keeping Iran afloat.

Senegal has a democracy and they are packed with great footballing talent - some of which grew up in Europe. Not comparable to Iran.

Democracy or not, their country is also among the poorest of the world.
Their domestic players aren't paid and treated kings like our spoiled kids in a fakely hyped league.
Yes they have tons of Europe born players but they relied on them contrary to ghoddos who is treated like shit since 4 years

[taremiscores]

Democracy or not, their country is also among the poorest of the world.
Their domestic players aren't paid and treated kings like our spoiled kids in a fakely hyped league.
Yes they have tons of Europe born players but they relied on them contrary to ghoddos who is treated like shit since 4 years

I agree.

One of the casualties of IR has been our general culture (including our footballing culture) - which has gone to shit in the past 43 years bro.

We will overcome and rise again.

[PSGman#19]

The proof our domestic league does everything wrong : instead of playing the same useless friendlies against other IPL and emirati clubs, they could have gone with friendlies against Russian clubs (only country with decent level to have relation with Iran)

[Nokhodi]

Regime change will open many doors for our TM, however we have seen sports like volleyball excel from a grassroots level despite garbage government.
Similar long term planning is a must form our football.