Carlos Queiroz Thread

[Hosseini]

Prince Hammam saw Iran's sexy 2-0 win over Wales, sent a personal invite to CQ to come to the final, and said GET THIS GUY A CONTRACT ASAP. Meanwhile, we're figuring out how to pull up our pants and deciding whether he's a good enough option for us. True Iranian brain rot.

[Damavand]

He also handed us our worst defeat since 1958 when we did not even have a proper league, due to his idiotic lineup.

Not to mention, mock up the US game with a completely defensive approach which led to our defeat and not advancing to the round of 16 from the easiest group we have ever had.

Therefore, his sexy win over Wales becomes completely worthless when it’s sandwiched between these 2 terrible games.

His time with Colombia and Egypt basically shows the same thing.

He is not a coach to win you championships or get you far at the WC so... No he is not a good option for us.

[a_m]

CQ is someone who unfortunately for him and us and all the teams he has ever coached in , has 1 game plan only , you don’t even need to think about how he is going to play or what set up he is going to have , it going to be defensive.

So in situations you need to win games and there is a high probability your opponent might score a goal on you , CQ tactics and philosophy don’t work that well.

In situations you have a lot of offensive talented players , he will over look all of them for a defender or a goalkeeper. He is just not comfortable playing attacking football, most of his practice are based of defensive positioning and defensive work, he really doesn’t even spend time on offensive tactics.


That being said he still the best coach we ever had who changed a lot things , his discipline his professional attitude, his planning and attention to detail are world class.

We need to move on from CQ , I love him and all he has done , so grateful, but I feel it is better that we find another coach who will maybe more offensive minded.


Also no matter who the coach is Iranian players need to be playing in Europe formed a younger age , from 18 to 22 ideally, it won’t matter if Pep guardiola is iran coach , if the bulk of players in the national team are coming from IPL we will not be competitive enough to ever go to the 2nd round or beyond.

[OFFSIDE_1]

He also handed us our worst defeat since 1958 when we did not even have a proper league, due to his idiotic lineup.

Not to mention, mock up the US game with a completely defensive approach which led to our defeat and not advancing to the round of 16 from the easiest group we have ever had.

Therefore, his sexy win over Wales becomes completely worthless when it’s sandwiched between these 2 terrible games.

His time with Colombia and Egypt basically shows the same thing.

He is not a coach to win you championships or get you far at the WC so... No he is not a good option for us.

so you ignore the fact that players and their family members were being threatened by the regime, all while many "Iranians" were cheering for TM to lose ? A team that lost its No. 1 GK due to concussion in the first 5 minutes. A team that had to focus on whether they should sing the national anthem instead of what 31 other teams did and that was to analyzing their opponents. The same team that could not get friendlies due to this regime. Name one team in the tournament that faced this type of adversity and ended up needing a tie to advance.

Teams often suffer lopsided losses. Brazil lost to Germany 7-1 on their home turf. Switzerland got crushed 6-1 in this worldcup. Qatar was pathetic.

so, name one coach with better results in the WC. Was it Jalal, "aberoomandeh bakhtim" Talebi ? Was it Branko with players refusing to enter the pitch ? Even Mohagerani only gave us a tie, and a 3-0 loss to Holland and a 4-1 loss to Peru.

[Damavand]

so you ignore the fact that players and their family members were being threatened by the regime, all while many "Iranians" were cheering for TM to lose ? A team that lost its No. 1 GK due to concussion in the first 5 minutes. A team that had to focus on whether they should sing the national anthem instead of what 31 other teams did and that was to analyzing their opponents. The same team that could not get friendlies due to this regime. Name one team in the tournament that faced this type of adversity and ended up needing a tie to advance.

Teams often suffer lopsided losses. Brazil lost to Germany 7-1 on their home turf. Switzerland got crushed 6-1 in this worldcup. Qatar was pathetic.

so, name one coach with better results in the WC. Was it Jalal, "aberoomandeh bakhtim" Talebi ? Was it Branko with players refusing to enter the pitch ? Even Mohagerani only gave us a tie, and a 3-0 loss to Holland and a 4-1 loss to Peru.

None of what you said excuses the fact that his lineup for the England game was just plain wrong which ended up with 6 goals in our net. Putting Cheshmi in central defense was suicide, plain and simple. He basically chose his defense lineup from 2018 ignoring if the players are in top form and if they complement each other at present time.

After that humiliating defeat, due to the other results we were quite fortunate to go into our last game only needing a tie, but the genius screwed up that opportunity as well with an ultra defensive approach and we all saw what became of it. I can guarantee you if he had approached the Wales game the same way we definitely would not have won that game as well.

Infantino was in the stadium for the Iran - Spain game in 2018 and after the game told Mahdavikia that you have a very good team. You just need to not play so defensive so much. I did not pay too much attention to this back then due to our overall good showing that year but the more I think about it the more I realize that Infantino had a great point.

This was our best chance to finally make it out of the group stage and we failed. All due to CQ.

[a_m]

None of what you said excuses the fact that his lineup for the England game was just plain wrong which ended up with 6 goals in our net. Putting Chesmi in central defense was suicide, plain and simple. He basically chose his defense lineup from 2018 ignoring if the players are in top form and if they complement each other at present time.

After that humiliating defeat, due to the other results we were quite fortunate to go into our last game only needing a tie, but the genius screwed up that opportunity as well with an ultra defensive approach and we all saw what became of it. I can guarantee you if he had approached the Wales game the same way we definitely would not have won that game as well.

Infantino was in the stadium for the Iran - Spain game in 2018 and after the game told Mahdavikia that you have a very good team. You just need to not play so defensive so much.

This was our best chance to finally make it out of the group stage and we failed. All due to CQ.

the game against England a few players asked CQ please do not start them, they did not want to sing the national anthem, CQ hands were really tied, but to be honest, i don't even think if we played a better game or line up we would have won or even got a tie out of England,, they would have eventually scored a goal on us... yes we scored 2 goals on them could have been 3 if sardar had scored instead of hitting the post, but still think they would have won ....

The USA game is where you should be very critical of what the Hell was CQ thinking, we got that game all wrong basically a game you just have to hold a 0-0 , which is CQ specialty. he blew it big time.... his whole game plan was wrong.. we need to have put SAMAN from the start, Never played SARDAR maybe the last 10 minutes, same with Nourallahi, and had played TOrabi and Jalali so he took at least match the USA youth and speed......


The USA was not a good team , even with all their foreign born players and camps and friendly games, they still were not impressive, we should have scored on them the fair result in the game would have been 1-1.... the referee was awful as well ,

[Damavand]

the game against England a few players asked CQ please do not start them, they did not want to sing the national anthem, CQ hands were really tied, but to be honest, i don't even think if we played a better game or line up we would have won or even got a tie out of England,, they would have eventually scored a goal on us... yes we scored 2 goals on them could have been 3 if sardar had scored instead of hitting the post, but still think they would have won ....

The USA game is where you should be very critical of what the Hell was CQ thinking, we got that game all wrong basically a game you just have to hold a 0-0 , which is CQ specialty. he blew it big time.... his whole game plan was wrong.. we need to have put SAMAN from the start, Never played SARDAR maybe the last 10 minutes, same with Nourallahi, and had played TOrabi and Jalali so he took at least match the USA youth and speed......


The USA was not a good team , even with all their foreign born players and camps and friendly games, they still were not impressive, we should have scored on them the fair result in the game would have been 1-1.... the referee was awful as well ,

But none of the players he picked sang the anthem anyway so it was just a stupid move. I disagree regarding the outcome. With a great lineup we could have surprised England and gotten a tie maybe even a win. After all KSA did it against Argentina.


I completely agree with you on the USA game. He had the wrong game plan and started with midfield players that are too slow like Nourollahi and Karimi knowing damn well that US has very fast players in the midfield. Starting Saman and Torabi would have changed the outcome of the game in our favor.

We need to realize that the reason we won against Wales was because unlike the US game we did not sit back and let them dictate the game. We pushed from the start and we dictated the game. CQ could not even follow his own strategy for the US game.

[Scooter]

But none of the players he picked sang the anthem anyway so it was just a stupid move. I disagree regarding the outcome. With a great lineup we could have surprised England and gotten a tie maybe even a win. After all KSA did it against Argentina.


I completely agree with you on the USA game. He had the wrong game plan and started with midfield players that are too slow like Nourollahi and Karimi knowing damn well that US has very fast players in the midfield. Starting Saman and Torabi would have changed the outcome of the game in our favor.

We need to realize that the reason we won against Wales was because unlike the US game we did not sit back and let them dictate the game. We pushed from the start and we dictated the game. CQ could not even follow his own strategy for the US game.

If you want to ignore the chaos behind the scenes, that's on you. I don't know how anyone can think that having one's family threatened, and having many fans "spit in the face", wouldn't affect performance. Either you've never played a sport, or you are just not human; in other words you have no empathy. And if you're Iranian, I doubt the second part is true.

Regardless, you are so wrong concerning the England game. I completely agree with you regarding the starting lineup, but I completely disagree with the possibility of getting a result. Even if England's starting 11 came down with some illness before that game, their bench was/is still so superior to us with regards to talent and tactical discipline.

Another factor that doesn't get mentioned often (if at all): exactly how was CQ supposed to prep for the WC effectively on such short notice?! Is anyone here so delusional to think a couple of friendlies and a camp is anywhere near enough time to figure out which personnel within a given country fits a particular system?? I can see why he chose "his" players from the previous cycle, although it was wrong to do so, in retrospect. As an aside, I've said it before, and it bears repeating: if we had a healthy Sayyadmanesh, we win the USA game. No freaking question. He would have been the energetic CM we needed.

We need to move on from CQ, but CQ is easily the best manager in TM history, if only because he helped move Iranian football culture towards a more modern modality.

[Damavand]

If you want to ignore the chaos behind the scenes, that's on you. I don't know how anyone can think that having one's family threatened, and having many fans "spit in the face", wouldn't affect performance. Either you've never played a sport, or you are just not human; in other words you have no empathy. And if you're Iranian, I doubt the second part is true.

Regardless, you are so wrong concerning the England game. I completely agree with you regarding the starting lineup, but I completely disagree with the possibility of getting a result. Even if England's starting 11 came down with some illness before that game, their bench was/is still so superior to us with regards to talent and tactical discipline.

Another factor that doesn't get mentioned often (if at all): exactly how was CQ supposed to prep for the WC effectively on such short notice?! Is anyone here so delusional to think a couple of friendlies and a camp is anywhere near enough time to figure out which personnel within a given country fits a particular system?? I can see why he chose "his" players from the previous cycle, although it was wrong to do so, in retrospect. As an aside, I've said it before, and it bears repeating: if we had a healthy Sayyadmanesh, we win the USA game. No freaking question. He would have been the energetic CM we needed.

We need to move on from CQ, but CQ is easily the best manager in TM history, if only because he helped move Iranian football culture towards a more modern modality.

Its a good thing that we have the great example of KSA beating eventual champions Argentina in the same tournament none the less, when there are people like you who claim there is no way in hell we would have gotten a result against England.

The reason CQ was brought in so late with little time to prepare the team was because he supposedly knew the players and this was basically his team which he had built. Maybe it was a great mistake bringing him back because he contributed very little if any by his return.

He is the best coach we ever had but we do need to move on from him. He can no longer help us progress any further.

[Hosseini]

Wales was much worse than the US. It's not comparable. Wales got extremely lucky to escape the US with a tie

But I do agree that CQ had a flawed game plan against the US. Starting Beiro was a mistake for starters

[Azmoun_shireh]

He just posted a a goodbye both in Persian and English on his socials.

[Keshwardoost]

He just posted a a goodbye both in Persian and English on his socials.

🤒

Good luck CQ

[Keshwardoost]

https://m.facebook.com/100044066952279/

[Keshwardoost]

Best option for carrying on and building on CQ legacy: Bento

If Korea had Taremi at wc..

plus being portugese, maybe he have some basic tactical foundations in structure in common with CQ, and so on(not how they play in style) making the transition more natural?

[Ghermez Agha]

Kanani commented on CQ’s post saying

“to be Iran khianat kardi na be mano shoja”

what an a-hole wow….