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    Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
    Huh..! Really
    who they leak it to supposedly.!?
    who's reporting this !? Reliable ?
    CQ strategy blame everyone and anything for all failures. Accept no responsibility but learn don't lose.

    This was leaked by CQ camp after WC to save face for the disaster lineup. As if it wasn't supposedly leaked then the lineup would have smacked England...blah blah blah.

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      Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
      CQ strategy blame everyone and anything for all failures. Accept no responsibility but learn don't lose.

      This was leaked by CQ camp after WC to save face for the disaster lineup. As if it wasn't supposedly leaked then the lineup would have smacked England...blah blah blah.

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      indeed .... ..!
      i dont even know WTF he was thinking or trying to do with that BS starting line-up vs England..!!??

      how dafauq is he gonna explain/excuse him starting the likes of outa form, rusty, coming off longterm injuries, havent played a TM game in a looong while PAG, Cheshmi, MilMo, fking AK..!!??
      and he fking thought benching the likes of Kanani, Saeed, Saman, Shoja, in-form Torabi, Amiri, Gholi was'nt going to have a severe negative effect on potency of his TM..!!??

      GTFO Here with that bs..!!

      clearly CQ played favorites and self-righteous, selfishly with his lineups .... Wet the Fking Bed massively .... now wants to lay the blame on others with horseshitt fking excuses and deflections..!!


      thank you for shittting all over our best ever chance to get outa WC groups by trying to be your usual vengeful kaleshagh and playing favorites ...!!
      Indeed as the bus-boy stated "Ultimately you Betrayed TM and its Fans with such Ignorant and Pitty antics.! and in process ruined your otherwise very respectable TM legacy..!

      as they say, this is coaching business ... its ALL About What Have You Done For Me LATELY...!!
      Ultimately RESULTS is WHAT MATTERS ...!! the rest are all BS Excuses and nothing more..!! YOU FAILED SIR ..... AGAIN...!!
      Now FK right off to wherever, dont care ..!
      Enough is Enough...we're (at least I'm) DONE with you..!!

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        Originally posted by BacheLot View Post

        indeed .... ..!
        i dont even know WTF he was thinking or trying to do with that BS starting line-up vs England..!!??

        how dafauq is he gonna explain/excuse him starting the likes of outa form, rusty, coming off longterm injuries, havent played a TM game in a looong while PAG, Cheshmi, MilMo, fking AK..!!??
        and he fking thought benching the likes of Kanani, Saeed, Saman, Shoja, in-form Torabi, Amiri, Gholi was'nt going to have a severe negative effect on potency of his TM..!!??

        GTFO Here with that bs..!!

        clearly CQ played favorites and self-righteous, selfishly with his lineups .... Wet the Fking Bed massively .... now wants to lay the blame on others with horseshitt fking excuses and deflections..!!


        thank you for shittting all over our best ever chance to get outa WC groups by trying to be your usual vengeful kaleshagh and playing favorites ...!!
        Indeed as the bus-boy stated "Ultimately you Betrayed TM and its Fans with such Ignorant and Pitty antics.! and in process ruined your otherwise very respectable TM legacy..!

        as they say, this is coaching business ... its ALL About What Have You Done For Me LATELY...!!
        Ultimately RESULTS is WHAT MATTERS ...!! the rest are all BS Excuses and nothing more..!! YOU FAILED SIR ..... AGAIN...!!
        Now FK right off to wherever, dont care ..!
        Enough is Enough...we're (at least I'm) DONE with you..!!
        It was all predictable. MO Salah called him out on this behavior in Egypt yet CQ fans here dismissed MO Fn Salah and said CQ knows best.

        People take Branco to task for not explaining and apologizing for 2006...yet no one no one is doing the same to CQ. We deserve answers and apology. Instead CQ response would be "how much you pay me" lol

        He has no respect left with TM fans. Cqoolaid drinkers must admit he was a disaster. A failure. His international record stinks. If you mock Cuper then you must mock CQ. Yes Cuper couldnt defeat some small teams but non smaller than Orlando Pirates...yikes!

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          Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
          It was all predictable. MO Salah called him out on this behavior in Egypt yet CQ fans here dismissed MO Fn Salah and said CQ knows best.

          People take Branco to task for not explaining and apologizing for 2006...yet no one no one is doing the same to CQ. We deserve answers and apology. Instead CQ response would be "how much you pay me" lol

          He has no respect left with TM fans. Cqoolaid drinkers must admit he was a disaster. A failure. His international record stinks. If you mock Cuper then you must mock CQ. Yes Cuper couldnt defeat some small teams but non smaller than Orlando Pirates...yikes!

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          "He has no respect left with TM fans". ?

          And you know that based on what data ? do you have survey you like to share with the rest of us ? a link maybe ? or is it based on 400 people out of population of 80million celebrating in the streets after the loss ? please share the data you used with the rest of us.
          “It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

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            You guys are still bitching about CQ! Let it go. He's dun. Should've been dun years ago. Spilt doogh...

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              Originally posted by Tarsal Claw View Post
              You guys are still bitching about CQ! Let it go. He's dun. Should've been dun years ago. Spilt doogh...
              Players increasingly calling him out and using language like traitor. As well as more and more posts like this from fans...



              Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post

              "He has no respect left with TM fans". ?

              And you know that based on what data ? do you have survey you like to share with the rest of us ? a link maybe ? or is it based on 400 people out of population of 80million celebrating in the streets after the loss ? please share the data you used with the rest of us.
              You know what's funny, at least 3 die hard CQ supporters have PMed me in the last few months to say "we got it wrong on CQ". Of course many are nostalgic but he doesn't have the same level of respect from fans unless they are so offside they can't see the bus leaving the stadium! How do we quantify that? I mean even polls here are often taken over by CQ mafia and outpouring of Katebian style propaganda. You can't objectify fan behavior...its all passion and subjectivity. Based on my experiences and reading the lines...the fact that you and not the typical CQ mafia is commenting on his behalf suggests to me people are learning he pulled a final scam on us...

              Also nice diversion tactic. Let's focus on the subjective opinion and ignore the other important realities. The same ones we just criticized Cuper for and have used against Branko since 2006. Not that either are better than CQ in any way nor is CQ even better than them...classic example of CQoolaid drinking tactics.

              Thank whatever higher power he is gone and his failures with him!

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                Originally posted by Damavand View Post

                Of course it does. If Renard had gone in with the mentality that there is no way in hell we are getting a result against Argentina, they would never have won. Also you are dead wrong if you believe the gap between KSA and Argentina is much smaller than Iran and England. In fact I say its greater.

                With the right lineup and mentality we could have also performed a miracle against England.

                I agree that they need to take their time finding the right coach one that gets the absolute most from our players.
                How am I "dead wrong"?
                Just from a raw talent perspective, please compare the England squad to the Argentine squad. There is a difference. The Argentine squad even has (at least) one MLS starter, who also started for them in at least one knockout round game. (Would have to go back and check) I don't think it's debatable if I were to say England's depth is much better than Argentina's.

                You are interjecting your personal feelings through Renard, without knowing much (if anything) about him, but that's okay.
                Regardless, I am just curious as to what lineup you believe would have defeated England? I mean this sincerely; I too think that the starting lineup was wrong, but at the same time, I don't see any combination versus England that would have won the game for us. We were timid (across the board, except for perhaps Taremi); we couldn't string two passes together at times (understandably considering the difference in athleticism); and we rarely had possession to do anything.

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                  Originally posted by Scooter View Post

                  How am I "dead wrong"?
                  Just from a raw talent perspective, please compare the England squad to the Argentine squad. There is a difference. The Argentine squad even has (at least) one MLS starter, who also started for them in at least one knockout round game. (Would have to go back and check) I don't think it's debatable if I were to say England's depth is much better than Argentina's.

                  You are interjecting your personal feelings through Renard, without knowing much (if anything) about him, but that's okay.
                  Regardless, I am just curious as to what lineup you believe would have defeated England? I mean this sincerely; I too think that the starting lineup was wrong, but at the same time, I don't see any combination versus England that would have won the game for us. We were timid (across the board, except for perhaps Taremi); we couldn't string two passes together at times (understandably considering the difference in athleticism); and we rarely had possession to do anything.
                  For starters how about not experimenting with a defensive shape not employed or practiced prior to the England match according to De Sa? Once they adjusted we actually did quite well in second half and showed a better display. That's a start!

                  Who goes into a WC opener and plays a system not tried in any friendly leading up to the match?! Who doesn't test out a strategy prior to the all too critical opener...CQ does!

                  So glad De Sa bad the balls to say we made a mistake! CQ still asking "how much you pay me?"

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                    Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                    For starters how about not experimenting with a defensive shape not employed or practiced prior to the England match according to De Sa? Once they adjusted we actually did quite well in second half and showed a better display. That's a start!

                    Who goes into a WC opener and plays a system not tried in any friendly leading up to the match?! Who doesn't test out a strategy prior to the all too critical opener...CQ does!

                    So glad De Sa bad the balls to say we made a mistake! CQ still asking "how much you pay me?"

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                    Are you seriously going to continue flat-out lying about CQs intentions with that last quote, in which he was sarcastically roasting a journalist for being rude?

                    Is this who you are, O-Zone? Just an angry person who takes out life frustrations on fellow TM fans. by twisting facts and lying?

                    Also, this thread is supposed to be more for those who appreciate CQ. Why are you here? Just to continue to aggravate, eh? Yeah.. that is your quality.

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                      Originally posted by Scooter View Post

                      Are you seriously going to continue flat-out lying about CQs intentions with that last quote, in which he was sarcastically roasting a journalist for being rude?

                      Is this who you are, O-Zone? Just an angry person who takes out life frustrations on fellow TM fans. by twisting facts and lying?

                      Also, this thread is supposed to be more for those who appreciate CQ. Why are you here? Just to continue to aggravate, eh? Yeah.. that is your quality.
                      Last time I checked you weren't a mod. So why you getting personal? Don't like me or my posts ignore me. Use the block feature. This is a discussion forum...learn to discuss not attack members. Wait I guess you are doing the antagonizing thing again...meh I'll go back to being a "coach potato" i think thst is what you called me previously 😆 lol

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                        Originally posted by Scooter View Post

                        Are you seriously going to continue flat-out lying about CQs intentions with that last quote, in which he was sarcastically roasting a journalist for being rude?

                        Is this who you are, O-Zone? Just an angry person who takes out life frustrations on fellow TM fans. by twisting facts and lying?

                        Also, this thread is supposed to be more for those who appreciate CQ. Why are you here? Just to continue to aggravate, eh? Yeah.. that is your quality.
                        🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
                        he don't know nothing about soccer.
                        If u discuss fruits with him
                        he would say samething.

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                          Originally posted by kateb View Post

                          🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
                          he don't know nothing about soccer.
                          If u discuss fruits with him
                          he would say samething.
                          No you definitely do. "Taj is going to save us...Taj is a crook". "CQ guaranteed 2nd round...CQ lineup was leaked that's why we got hammered by England"

                          Baba pick a lane and take the bademjoon out of your mouth before you choke 😉


                          Again reports are CQ has gone to Qatar! Kateb welcome to your new fav national team!

                          https://dohanews.co/ex-iran-coach-ca...nager-reports/

                          To the rest tabrik! Qatar is now a non factor!

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                            Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                            Players increasingly calling him out and using language like traitor. As well as more and more posts like this from fans...





                            You know what's funny, at least 3 die hard CQ supporters have PMed me in the last few months to say "we got it wrong on CQ". Of course many are nostalgic but he doesn't have the same level of respect from fans unless they are so offside they can't see the bus leaving the stadium! How do we quantify that? I mean even polls here are often taken over by CQ mafia and outpouring of Katebian style propaganda. You can't objectify fan behavior...its all passion and subjectivity. Based on my experiences and reading the lines...the fact that you and not the typical CQ mafia is commenting on his behalf suggests to me people are learning he pulled a final scam on us...

                            Also nice diversion tactic. Let's focus on the subjective opinion and ignore the other important realities. The same ones we just criticized Cuper for and have used against Branko since 2006. Not that either are better than CQ in any way nor is CQ even better than them...classic example of CQoolaid drinking tactics.

                            Thank whatever higher power he is gone and his failures with him!

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                            and you know what's even funnier is using quotes from 2 disgruntled players, one of which was a player whose main talent only showed itself inside a parked bus , as your proof point that "we allllllll got it wrong". After all, one has to be in the Ozone layer to think that qualifying us for 2 worldcups while under heavy sanctions operated by a corrupt IFF, is anything to praise him for. I mean, ANY coach could have done that. We just have to find out where that any-coach is.
                            “It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

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                              Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post

                              and you know what's even funnier is using quotes from 2 disgruntled players, one of which was a player whose main talent only showed itself inside a parked bus , as your proof point that "we allllllll got it wrong". After all, one has to be in the Ozone layer to think that qualifying us for 2 worldcups while under heavy sanctions operated by a corrupt IFF, is anything to praise him for. I mean, ANY coach could have done that. We just have to find out where that any-coach is.
                              Ya I am in the Ozone layer I guess to believe last gasp qualifying in Asia by the suppossed no. 1 team is to be praised. You know not like Skocic had a corrupt federation, infighting, sanctions of monumental proportions, and a disaster left by Wilmots to clean up...and wow he did it before even needing the last match...

                              Comon if you ask for evidence and dismiss it then we can go around and around in circles. I'd rather be in the Ozone layer than offside on my arguments 😀 come back to TM mate, CQ has left us for Qatar. Let's move on and forget the misery that CQ left us. Divided, hopeless, and in shambles...he did what IFF typically needs no help in doing.

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                                Ozone jan, give it up buddy!!! Just a few FACTS for you:

                                - EVERYBODY knows that almost tying Argentina (also known as losing to Argentina) was the greatest achievement of CQ. An Argentina team that became the runner up in that WC.

                                - EVERYBODY know that Saudi beating Argentina (also know as winning!!!) is no big deal and has nothing to do with their coaching. An Argentina that won the WC.

                                - EVERYBODY knows that losing to England 6-2 is a great achievement given that our players could not string two passes together.

                                - EVERYBODY knows that this same team that could not string two passes was considered by EVERYBODY to be our most talented generation as few as three months before WC when Skocic was in charge.

                                Now, if you started to ignore facts too, we might let you be part of EVERYBODY...



                                btw, one thousand thanks to Qatar football federation for saving out behinds one more time.​

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