Carlos Queiroz Thread

[oracle]

Persian players bloom late. Due to many reasons
and lack of many things
for tm best is
Best 11 play REGARDLESS OF AGE.

this is my ac line up with many question mark

Ali biravand
Ramin. ? ? Norafkan
? ? ? Alahyar
Maganlou. Mehdi
...
Cb position has been our weakest link
in the last 40 years....

[oracle]

Top 4 Ac winners all time

1.japan. 4
2.ksa. 3
3.iran. 3
4.s.k. 2

[AmirSalar]

Nowhere near brazil Argentina uruguay etc..

You’re right so let’s just not even participate! That’s a great plan!!

[PSGman#19]

You’re right so let’s just not even participate! That’s a great plan!!

Never said don't participate

[Damavand]

I can definitely see your points of view, above, but I can't get on board with making an "apples to apples" comparison between Walid joining Morocco on short notice, with CQ joining TM on similar notice. Damavand, the difference in atmosphere between Team Melli and Moroccan national team is night and day.

First of all, Moroccan football is ahead of ours with regards to player talent (look at the leagues their players are in), tactical awareness, and overall physical fitness. I just do not understand how many here so casually brush those factors off, as if they don't matter. I maintain: the best managers in the world could have stepped into TM at the same juncture, and I don't think the results would be much better.

Secondly, how do people here keep brushing off the political threats to the players' livelihoods, families and well-being? How? If you or your family were threatened before entering a pickup match at a park, do you think you would perform well? Now, how about on the biggest stage in world football? The psychological pressure these players experienced.. I don't think anyone on the outside can comprehend. We can talk about it, but that's not remotely the same.

Third: we need to stop comparing different eras of TM and managers, to 2022 WC. It's not the same. We may have had a lot of talent, but we also had many injuries and background turmoil. The dynamics were different, and if nothing else, we achieved our first WIN in a WC, against a European team, no less. I know I know, people here will spit on Wales, but the fact is they weren't remotely the worst team in the tournament, and they DID qualify. They were no slouches. Their tie against USA was no fluke, either. So, in the end, I am proud of CQ and TM for that moment.

Regardless, on the flip side, as I said before, I agree that selection versus England was poor (despite my opinion that no way in hell we beat them with any version of our team), and I also agree that the tactics in the first half versus USA were wrong. No doubt. Despite all that, I still think CQ did well with what he had, and what was going on.

You seem to change standards to prove your point. It does not matter how much better Moroccan football is compared to ours, the fact is they brought in a new manager less than 3 months before the Cup and they succeeded while we brought in someone who had been with us for 8 years and supposedly built this team and he goofed.

Are you kidding me that the best managers would not have gotten better results ?? The best managers would not have sent in a suicidal lineup against England causing us to concede 6 goals, and would have had the good sense not to start with a totally defensive tactic against a team who is in a must win situation.

Regarding all the political threats, I did not want to bring this up since its sensitive subject, but how come the so called threats only affected the team for the England and the US game, but did not for the Wales ?? Against Wales they played their hearts out but against England and the US they were suddenly worried about their families ??...Which leads me to believe that the whole thing is somewhat exaggerated.

I was also happy that we defeated our first European team but my happiness is totally wiped when you put that victory next to our worst defeat in 64 years, as well as failing to advance from the easiest group we have ever had.

You want to keep the mentality that there is no way in hell we could have beaten England regardless of our lineup, fine, but keep in mind, an isolated country like North Korea with absolutely no known players or coach defeated 2 time champions Italy in the 1966 WC and advanced from their group, while sending Italy home.

So after all his short comings how you or anyone else can believe that CQ did the best with what he had is beyond me.

Make no mistake. CQ is the main reason for this failed campaign, yes he did great against Wales but he also really screwed up the other 2 games.

[O-ZoNe]

You seem to change standards to prove your point. It does not matter how much better Moroccan football is compared to ours, the fact is they brought in a new manager less than 3 months before the Cup and they succeeded while we brought in someone who had been with us for 8 years and supposedly built this team and he goofed.

Regarding all the political threats, how come they supposedly affected the team for the England and the US game but did not for the Wales game ?? Against Wales they played their hearts out but against England and the US they were worried about their families ?? Which leads me to believe that the whole thing is exaggerated.

I was also happy that we defeated our first European team but my happiness is totally wiped when you put that victory next to our worst defeat in 64 years, as well as failing to advance from the easiest group we have ever had.

You want to keep the mentality that there is no way in hell we could have beaten England regardless of our lineup, fine, but keep in mind an isolated country like North Korea with absolutely no known players or coach defeated 2 time champions Italy in the 1966 WC and advanced from their group while sending Italy home.

Finally I strongly disagree with you that CQ did well with what he had. His lineup against England was suicidal as well as his cowardly approach to the last game. Not to mention wasting 2 players spot.

Make no mistake. CQ is the main reason for this failed campaign, yes he did great against Wales but he really screwed up the other 2 games.

Even the Wales game...it was player determination. I am sure if CQ had his way we would have parked the bus and gone for a 0-0 leaving it to the last game and trying to repeat the events of 2014 and 2018. CQs approach is defend and hope for a point from first 2 matches then try and get enough in the third match. We got lucky with an OG in 2018 because that Morocco match should have ended at best in a draw for us. We also got 1 point from first 2 matches in 2014 when Nigeria was arguably the weakest of our 3 opponents. In 2022 it almost worked until it didn't...as is the case wherever CQ goes.

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[Damavand]

Even the Wales game...it was player determination. I am sure if CQ had his way we would have parked the bus and gone for a 0-0 leaving it to the last game and trying to repeat the events of 2014 and 2018. CQs approach is defend and hope for a point from first 2 matches then try and get enough in the third match. We got lucky with an OG in 2018 because that Morocco match should have ended at best in a draw for us. We also got 1 point from first 2 matches in 2014 when Nigeria was arguably the weakest of our 3 opponents. In 2022 it almost worked until it didn't...as is the case wherever CQ goes.

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Could be.The whole "press and dictate the game from the start" was so unlike CQ in the Wales game. I just wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt that he got one game right in this miserable campaign.

[Karimi 8]

Sad how Carlos' TM career ended, it was a dream come true (and extremely unexpected) to have him return for his third WC with us. I really think he could have won us the AC (the Japan game still infuriates me) and we were very unlucky in 2018 not to get out of the group of death. However, 2022 is a forgettable WC, with all the chaos & internal / external pressure placed on our players, I think they did their best. However, I do believe that Carlos got his tactics wrong for the US match, there was no reason to play for a draw that game, and unfortunately this determined his future with us.

I was really hoping that he would remain involved in our football, and help us build a foundation for the young players / TM development. Sucks that he is with Qatar, I think he has the skill set to make them much stronger. However, I will never forget the good moments, the 2014 qualification run with Gucci running wild (and the SK goal), the feeling that I had about the 2018 after an easy qualification (the fact that we were going up against Portugual & Spain, and I genuinely felt comfortable that our defense would hold up), and the 2-0 win against Whales.

Carlos helped shape and build a new wave of Iranian football talent, I do not blame him for leaving (if it was entirely his decision or not), and I wish him only success. He had more Iranian gheyrat than most of the people running the IFF, and always fought for our players. Thank you king Carlos

[diz]

Bringing joy to new fans

[diz]

On a side note, I think qatar knew CQ’s passion for leading and improving a NT based on all his interactions with qatar when he was TM’s coach. Recall that it was only qatar who offered TM training camps, facilities, and friendlies (?) when not even “be-orz” IFF could arrange or offer anything. CQ fought tooth and nail for that and cooperated with and appreciated the qatar FA help publicly. I’m sure that played favorably in qatar FA’s calculations

[taremiscores]

We're going to miss him. What's coming next is far, far worse.

[diz]

"I want to express my gratitude for the opportunity to share my expertise and knowledge with this great family. This is the beginning of a special journey, a great adventure where we want to achieve all the dreams that the Federation and Qatar supporters are expecting. Thank you!"
-CQ

[oracle]

Cq yadet basheh
iran sarvareteh

Iran hoooraaaaa
Qatar sooooorakh

[Keshwardoost]

Bringing joy to new fans

He allready looks 10 years younger.. 😅👌

[persiangodfather]

Quieroz was bittersweet. I was an avid supporter of his for us. After the world cup 2022 he screwed it up big time. However the 8 solid years he gave us might have never been without him, so would I do it all over again. yes I would