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    Originally posted by peiman92 View Post
    FT 0-1 Iraq wins.

    Very bad game by Iran.

    I was wrong about this team winning it all.
    Don't feel bad.
    when they start investing on soccer fields , then if we lose, feel bad.

    ​this team did exactly what i thought for them to do and even over achieved. I had them finish second and get eliminated in qf, but they finish first.

    BTW Iraq is iran gorbeh sia
    On all football levels.

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      Augh…! So baakhtan be fking arough..! Ridan raft..!
      Iranian footballers slowly becoming the official chokers of Asian/international football..!
      taking that Mullahz coveted prize from Uzbeks..!?

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        I would keep Samad as the hc.
        unless we going to bring kick ass forigner coach
        No different between, Samad, ali, tagi or nagi.
        UNLESS INVEST ON GRASS SOCCER FIELD.
        atleast Samad has this experience, and can built on this.
        Big mistake let him go unless his replacement is a real youth level coach forigner with 4 years contract.

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          Glad I didn't watch this nightmare

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            Originally posted by kateb View Post
            I would keep Samad as the hc.
            unless we going to bring kick ass forigner coach
            No different between, Samad, ali, tagi or nagi.
            UNLESS INVEST ON GRASS SOCCER FIELD.
            atleast Samad has this experience, and can built on this.
            Big mistake let him go unless his replacement is a real youth level coach forigner with 4 years contract.
            Samad, the one that said our group was group of death? Iran and Australia are out after QF.

            Of course invest on grass soccer, but with our current state, the priority is to take IPL out of its exaggerate pedestal. Instead of speaking about IPL mickey mouse title, the only interest of the league should be to discover, play and develop new talents. Abdi blocked at PP instead of going to Chaves, Sepahan don't playing Salmani and the other kids that were doing good against Zenit is absolutely shameful.

            Barca and PSG are playing 16-17 years kids regularly and in the most important games. Barca which is largely idolized in Iran! In Iran, Barca, the US (the country) are idolized but at the same time we are unable to learn and take their good sides!

            In Iran, we start to trust young of 22-24 or ever 25! Football changed since one or 2 decades ago 22-25 is too old!

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              Originally posted by kateb View Post

              Don't feel bad.
              when they start investing on soccer fields , then if we lose, feel bad.

              ​this team did exactly what i thought for them to do and even over achieved. I had them finish second and get eliminated in qf, but they finish first.

              BTW Iraq is iran gorbeh sia
              On all football levels.
              We did outplay our opponents in GS, who all were better than Iraq and who all invest much more on soccer fields than we do.

              This was (as countless times before) a mental colapse when it mattered the most. Had we played the same way as in GS, it would have been enough to see us through.

              Samad should get kicked out, as he made the same mistakes as the coaches before him. He sent the team out not to lose, instead of sending them out to win. I can’t believe we haven’t learned our lesson yet after all these years…
              Esteghlal 💙💙

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                Again we lost to ourselves. We lose tough games because our state of mind is weaker than most out there. We always win the non-important games and lose all the important ones. Think about that for a second.
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                  Originally posted by webmaster View Post
                  Again we lost to ourselves. We lose tough games because our state of mind is weaker than most out there. We always win the non-important games and lose all the important ones. Think about that for a second.
                  Our players in general have very poor sports psychology preparation. It's as if this academic field does not exist in Iran?!?

                  The only TM coach I have seen implement regular mental and psychological preparation for matches was CQ.

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                    Originally posted by peiman92 View Post

                    We did outplay our opponents in GS, who all were better than Iraq and who all invest much more on soccer fields than we do.

                    This was (as countless times before) a mental colapse when it mattered the most. Had we played the same way as in GS, it would have been enough to see us through.

                    Samad should get kicked out, as he made the same mistakes as the coaches before him. He sent the team out not to lose, instead of sending them out to win. I can’t believe we haven’t learned our lesson yet after all these years…
                    Correct me if I am wrong, u20 ac and wc is every 2 years.
                    what difference it makes to replace marfavi with another Persian coach?

                    He has this experience under his belt,
                    We should let him built on this

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                      Originally posted by kateb View Post

                      Correct me if I am wrong, u20 ac and wc is every 2 years.
                      what difference it makes to replace marfavi with another Persian coach?

                      He has this experience under his belt,
                      We should let him built on this
                      You're right about U20 AC/WC being every 2 years.

                      Marfavi proved he is a tarsoo coach when it mattered.
                      Also TM is not a place for trial & error. He had his chance & failed.

                      Hopefully the next coach is not as tarsoo in do or die games... At least one can hope so after 40+ years...
                      Esteghlal 💙💙

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                        Originally posted by peiman92 View Post

                        You're right about U20 AC/WC being every 2 years.

                        Marfavi proved he is a tarsoo coach when it mattered.
                        Also TM is not a place for trial & error. He had his chance & failed.

                        Hopefully the next coach is not as tarsoo in do or die games... At least one can hope so after 40+ years...
                        47 years of changing hc after failure might be the problem in u20.
                        marfav i strenght was his defense and he did good job keep it close and gave tm chance..if we attacked score line could of been 2-0 3-1....
                        He had no good midfielders or forwards.watched enough soccer to recognize good players, our midfield and forwards where not good soccer players(marfavi has nothing to do with that)
                        Let's give him 2 more years of built on this.
                        unless we go bring forigner youth level coach,,
                        Other irsnian coaches will not be better than marvafi at the moment.

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                          Originally posted by kateb View Post

                          47 years of changing hc after failure might be the problem in u20.
                          marfav i strenght was his defense and he did good job keep it close and gave tm chance..if we attacked score line could of been 2-0 3-1....
                          He had no good midfielders or forwards.
                          Let's give him 2 more years of built on this.
                          unless we go bring forigner youth level coach,,
                          Other irsnian coaches will not be better than marvafi at the moment.
                          In GS we only attacked and had double the amount of shots compared to our opponents in all 3 matches.
                          Why on earth would you suddenly revert to a defensive approach when playing against a much weaker opponent in QF? He also suddenly decided to play a 5-back formation against Iraq...

                          If you can give me a reasonable explanation other than Marfavi being tarsoo, i will give him a 2nd chance.
                          Esteghlal 💙💙

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                            Originally posted by peiman92 View Post

                            In GS we only attacked and had double the amount of shots compared to our opponents in all 3 matches.
                            Why on earth would you suddenly revert to a defensive approach when playing against a much weaker opponent in QF? He also suddenly decided to play a 5-back formation against Iraq...

                            If you can give me a reasonable explanation other than Marfavi being tarsoo, i will give him a 2nd chance.
                            Number 1 Gs is very different,
                            Iraq is a lot more stronger than qatar o Vietnam.
                            Being down agaunst australia offcourse is all attack now that don't mean nothing...

                            one thing you will realize eventually , and I see u have same confusion on tm senior as well,
                            when playing an opponent
                            that is stronger than you,
                            Playing defense increase the chances of wining,
                            It's not tarsooo, it's giving your underdog team a chance to win. playing with 5 backs defense was strength of the team ,that game plan was pk shoot out , not bad strategy for an under dog(in youth soccer we are under dogs to Iraq, like it or not)

                            I am not trying to change your miyour btw , I used to think like you 20,25 years ago, eventually i got reality who we are as soccer nation..maybe in 10-15 years u agree with me...right now u won't agree with me and I don't blame you...

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                              For anyone wondering there were clear instructions giving to this team to lose this game … I watched all of Iran games ,,, they were better than Qatar Australia and Vietnamese they dominated all 3 games ,, in this game they were very very very flat no tooth in attack …..

                              the instructions were given to lose this game because Israel under 20 has qualified and we do not want to be participate or be grouped with them in the same group

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                                Just watched the highlights and was baffled by how bizarre our boys shots were. Honestly, both teams sucked at long-range shots, but Iran was a tad worse!

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