Summer Transfer Window | 2023

[koorosh]

All of the Turkic peoples of Iraq are called Turkmen. The term Turkmen used to refer to many different Turkic peoples, including the Turkmens of Iran. Now Turkmen has two distinct meanings...the Turkmen people who live in Iranian and Russian annexed Turkmenistan (only one of several Turkish tribes)...and the Turkish speaking people of Iraq...of whom there are 2-3 million.

So don't feel bad because it is very confusing...there was an attempt to phonetically separate the terms...Turkomen referring to all Turkic peoples of who Turkmen is one tribe living in Iran/Turkmenistan. But that is yet to gain traction...

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[PSGman#19]

A Jordanian player move to French league from a belgian club, something our belgian legionnaires were unable to do

[inarsenewetrust]

A Jordanian player move to French league from a belgian club, something our belgian legionnaires were unable to do

Just for the record, he finished season with 6G, 4A as a right winger. This was his best season. Will be moving to Montpellier who are comfortably mid table.

Gholi in just his second season hit 4G,8 A from same position. Then 8G, 7A in his third season, and then 8G, 5A in his supposedly “bad” season last year. Still, the best he managed was interest from nantes, and even that was mainly driven by mogi bayat and never resulted in official offer.

The guy showed in WC he can up his game a lot to match level of higher opposition without issue. The one player who I really don’t understand how he didn’t get more interest after generally being quite successful in europe. Hard for a Charleroi winger to put up much better stats than what he did over the course of 3 consecutive seasons

[The]

Just for the record, he finished season with 6G, 4A as a right winger. This was his best season. Will be moving to Montpellier who are comfortably mid table.

Gholi in just his second season hit 4G,8 A from same position. Then 8G, 7A in his third season, and then 8G, 5A in his supposedly “bad” season last year. Still, the best he managed was interest from nantes, and even that was mainly driven by mogi bayat and never resulted in official offer.

The guy showed in WC he can up his game a lot to match level of higher opposition without issue. The one player who I really don’t understand how he didn’t get more interest after generally being quite successful in europe. Hard for a Charleroi winger to put up much better stats than what he did over the course of 3 consecutive seasons

I have no hard proof for this, but I'm certain he had some interest but the Bayats fucked him over. They most likely were holding out for a big transfer (like Kaveh's to Brugge), but it never came through.

[Iran_19]

Gholi issue is after so many years he failed to adjust himself to coach system, otherwise no one denied his talent, and that is something teams watching him dont like.


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[inarsenewetrust]

will be a big summer for us pre AC. The following will move for sure:

Abedzadeh (free agent) : So far linked to West brom, Segunda Div + La Liga sides
Majid (free agent) : So far linked to Lens, Atalanta
Ghoddos (free agent): So far linked to Sheffield United, Malmo

Azmoun and Taremi also seem very likely to move. This is Taremi's last potential summer to get a big move and Porto's last chance to make big profit on him. Sardar needs to go somewhere system suits him and he can be main guy or one of main guys.

besides these 5 TM regulars Pouraliganji and nourollahi will probably make moves inside Persian Gulf. Outside chance of moves to Turkey.

From PGPL only a few candidates for euro move: Yasin (free agent), Hazbavi, Fallah, Khodabandelou. Historically we are getting 1-2 per summer in recent years.

[BacheLot]

Gholi issue is after so many years he failed to adjust himself to coach system, otherwise no one denied his talent, and that is something teams watching him dont like.


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true to an extent...! he never did shake off that iroonie/pgl bad habit of inability to stay disciplined within coach's demanded system of play for the full game...! still to date, at least once or twice in a game he reverts back to putting his head down and try to dribble through everyone all the way to the opposition bylines... !!
also his overall skinny asss and frail looking stature didnt help much raising some serious eyebrows towards him from more decent EU clubs..!
he did have a hell of a WC performance and for that im always grateful and prideful of..!
probably if there werent soo much fking irralevent political drama surrounding TM at Gutter WC, we surely woulda gotten at least a decent move or two from the vast exposure of it..?

[PSGman#19]

Strong rumors about Hazbavi signing 3 years with Al Sadd. The never ending nightmare

[inarsenewetrust]

Kim went from K league to China for 2 seasons before transfer to Fener. That was amid decent euro interest.

If Hazbavi did not have good euro offers it is reasonable path for a couple years, play with better coaches, facilities, show himself in ACL for a couple seasons and then at age 22 he is still well positioned for better euro move than he could manage now.

It must be said his sample size of pro football is still quite small to attract better sides than charleroi types that we complain so much about, and so far seem not to be the best fit.

OFC this is provided he makes the jump at age 22/23 and not later...or else he will turn into PAG 2.0.

[PSGman#19]

Kim went from J league to China for 2 seasons before transfer to Fener. That was amid decent euro interest.

If Hazbavi did not have good euro offers it is reasonable path for a couple years, play with better coaches, facilities, show himself in ACL for a couple seasons and then at age 22 he is still well positioned for better euro move than he could manage now.

It must be said his sample size of pro football is still quite small to attract better sides than charleroi types that we complain so much about, and so far seem not to be the best fit.

OFC this is provided he makes the jump at age 22/23 and not later...or else he will turn into PAG 2.0.

The example that may fit Hazbavi more is PAG, so driven by money that he let down any euro ambition. We can also add kanaani, shoja, mehrmo that are stucked there for eternity.

Btw Kim has a nationality, a national team that give him exposure and K/J league are well considered by Europeans. Going to China isn't the same black hole that an Iranian going to Qatar or staying in IPL

About Hazbavi, I don't see him having better euro offers after a qatar spell than now. If he has a charleroi or similar offer, he should take it.

Btw all euro clubs are after young or very young players. Iranians do a bad things not using one of the only criteria that can attenuate our bad reputation (see comprehensive comments for Hlozek vs a middle aged Iranian Azmoun or Taremi who may miss a huge move because of his age..)

[The]

The example that may fit Hazbavi more is PAG, so driven by money that he let down any euro ambition. We can also add kanaani, shoja, mehrmo that are stucked there for eternity.

Btw Kim has a nationality, a national team that give him exposure and K/J league are well considered by Europeans. Going to China isn't the same black hole that an Iranian going to Qatar or staying in IPL

About Hazbavi, I don't see him having better euro offers after a qatar spell than now. If he has a charleroi or similar offer, he should take it.

Btw all euro clubs are after young or very young players. Iranians do a bad things not using one of the only criteria that can attenuate our bad reputation (see comprehensive comments for Hlozek vs a middle aged Iranian Azmoun or Taremi who may miss a huge move because of his age..)

Haji, way too early in his career to go all doon and gloom.

It's a three year contract. If he does well in ACL or national team, he will get some interest from better leagues. He's just as likely to if not more to get noticed in Qatar than he's in Iran.

It's not like European clubs are lining up to sign 20 year old PGPL defenders.

[PSGman#19]

Haji, way too early in his career to go all doon and gloom.

It's a three year contract. If he does well in ACL or national team, he will get some interest from better leagues. He's just as likely to if not more to get noticed in Qatar than he's in Iran.

It's not like European clubs are lining up to sign 20 year old PGPL defenders.

I saw more transfers from IPL to Europe than QSL to Europe (specially for Iranian players) btw.

3 valuable years of his young career spent in qatar instead of learning the real job in Europe even in unsexy Charleroi.

And in case of euro offer during or after his QSL spell, will a player that is used to big money and fancyness accept a rude European challenge with less money??

Anyways too bad for us, but quite logical when that's the standard and the model we built for our players career since decades

[The]

I saw more transfers from IPL to Europe than QSL to Europe (specially for Iranian players) btw.

3 valuable years of his young career spent in qatar instead of learning the real job in Europe even in unsexy Charleroi.

And in case of euro offer during or after his QSL spell, will a player that is used to big money and fancyness accept a rude European challenge with less money??

Anyways too bad for us, but quite logical when that's the standard and the model we built for our players career since decades

Last two seasons there were 6 transfers from QSL to Europe, and 5 from PGPL (if you count I.Gomez).

Also being in Europe doesn't always mean better development. There are plenty of shit clubs and coaches in Europe. If you have a shit coach who doesn't fix your bad habits, then it doesn't matter that you're playing against stronger teams, you won't grow as a player.


I just think it's premature to judge this kid based on one move.

[PSGman#19]

Last two seasons there were 6 transfers from QSL to Europe, and 5 from PGPL (if you count I.Gomez).

Also being in Europe doesn't always mean better development. There are plenty of shit clubs and coaches in Europe. If you have a shit coach who doesn't fix your bad habits, then it doesn't matter that you're playing against stronger teams, you won't grow as a player.


I just think it's premature to judge this kid based on one move.

About the 6 transfers from qsl to Europe, how much iranian players?

About the 2nd paragraph, thats true but the chance to find a better developpement in Europe is stronger than in qatar.

Yeah too early to judge, everthing is possible in Football but we saw lot of iranians in qsl emirates before to know what a transfer in qatar mean

[a_m]

No Iranian player should ever go to Charleroi , and if they do max 1 year and move to a better team ….

Golizadeh should have left after he had take break out season , look at victor osmineh , he just won the league with Napoli , but he stared at Charleroi and moved on , after 1 season there ..