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Either way, transfer or not: Taremi will become a true Porto and Portugese legend. Then he can cash in immensely by taking juicy arab money. If he transfers and gets the chance to challenge himself in a better league then all the better.
What Iran needs is 3-4 players on Taremis level. Every second tier footballing country have a player or two like Taremi. When we have more players on Taremis level then I am convinced that these European discriminating clowns will take on any iranian player in hopes of finding another Taremi level player.
Iran is not only on a low international standing in political terms. We are not known to have good transfers to Europe.
Unfortunately I think we will see a long era of players going to lesser teams, incrementally breaking through in pecking orders and step by step going to better teams if they want to have the slightest chance of top flight.
Iran just needs to stop waste time in Arab leagues and continue to take risks in Europe and think football first. In due time a market will appear and improve and the products of this market will hopefully bring football fundamentals into iranian league and football which will in turn cause a virtous cycle. This is what we have to hope for.
I honestly believe we are seeing more sound football technically and tactically since new iranian coaches have entered the scene. Last ACL was probably the first time a saw tactically sound games from iranian teams.
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Originally posted by AGC View Post1) Either way, transfer or not: Taremi will become a true Porto and Portugese legend. Then he can cash in immensely by taking juicy arab money. If he transfers and gets the chance to challenge himself in a better league then all the better.
2) What Iran needs is 3-4 players on Taremis level. Every second tier footballing country have a player or two like Taremi. 3) When we have more players on Taremis level then I am convinced that these European discriminating clowns will take on any iranian player in hopes of finding another Taremi level player.
Iran is not only on a low international standing in political terms. We are not known to have good transfers to Europe.
Unfortunately I think we will see a long era of players going to lesser teams, incrementally breaking through in pecking orders and step by step going to better teams if they want to have the slightest chance of top flight.
4) Iran just needs to stop waste time in Arab leagues and continue to take risks in Europe and think football first. In due time a market will appear and improve and the products of this market will hopefully bring football fundamentals into iranian league and football which will in turn cause a virtous cycle. This is what we have to hope for.
I honestly believe we are seeing more sound football technically and tactically since new iranian coaches have entered the scene. Last ACL was probably the first time a saw tactically sound games from iranian teams.
2) we need a player that do good in top team. Second tier footballing country have that : Mkitharian in Inter/MU/Dortmund, Berbatov in MU, Kvara in Napoli before a top team/Pandev at Inter/Aubameyang in every top teams/Koreans etc...
3) Taremi was rotting in IPL/Qatar while doing wonder there and in ACL and in international games with Iran including WC18. No European clown moved for him. If CQ didn't take his phone, Rio Ave clowns would have taken him, nor Porto. We can have the next Messi and CR7, he will rot in Asia before eventually getting a crappy move at 23 in Subpar european leagues. Meritocracy doesn't work for us and it will stay the same except if political climated improves or we do a very impressive thing in football (like winning WC, or a legionnaire leading his crappy club to a UCL final). winning a game at WC or going to QF of U17 WC isn't enough for us.
4) How can take risks in Europe when they have 0 offer or very subpar? While about those whose spend years there, doing good things but still rotting in their club (Charleroi, Hosseini..). With GN now and also past bad choices of Skocic and GN before, we discouraged Euro legionnaires, leading now to a come back in Asia. I was not happy with that and quite agreed with your sentenced. But we couldn't maximize our Europe impact with our golden generation. The window is closing, it's too late now.
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Mehdi scored yesterday vs. Braga.
Porto won 1-0."This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
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"This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
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Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post
1) No way, he is already not that appreciated there (certainly bc nationality and style), it won't change anything except if he make Porto win the CL or EL. Of course, with one year older and relatively weaker Porto, it will logically be the scapegoat there after wasting some penalty and less goals than before. Porto's fan just wait that. Marega Forum
2) we need a player that do good in top team. Second tier footballing country have that : Mkitharian in Inter/MU/Dortmund, Berbatov in MU, Kvara in Napoli before a top team/Pandev at Inter/Aubameyang in every top teams/Koreans etc...
3) Taremi was rotting in IPL/Qatar while doing wonder there and in ACL and in international games with Iran including WC18. No European clown moved for him. If CQ didn't take his phone, Rio Ave clowns would have taken him, nor Porto. We can have the next Messi and CR7, he will rot in Asia before eventually getting a crappy move at 23 in Subpar european leagues. Meritocracy doesn't work for us and it will stay the same except if political climated improves or we do a very impressive thing in football (like winning WC, or a legionnaire leading his crappy club to a UCL final). winning a game at WC or going to QF of U17 WC isn't enough for us.
4) How can take risks in Europe when they have 0 offer or very subpar? While about those whose spend years there, doing good things but still rotting in their club (Charleroi, Hosseini..). With GN now and also past bad choices of Skocic and GN before, we discouraged Euro legionnaires, leading now to a come back in Asia. I was not happy with that and quite agreed with your sentenced. But we couldn't maximize our Europe impact with our golden generation. The window is closing, it's too late now.
The other is focus on the PGL if shipping players out is a fool hardy errand, as Kateb has said. But I'm not convinced PGL will ever grow to the level to be a suitable option, and even be on par with the Japanese or Korean league
Unless that happens for us (lot of legionnaires getting playing time in Europe or a very strong PGL/youth system) our ceiling will be something along the lines of Saudi, where most of their players are in the Saudi league. Despite that, they may actually grow substantially because of the better players playing in that league and heightening the overall quality of it.
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Originally posted by Hosseini View PostIf PGL wants to be taken seriously, they MUST get VAR in there and high quality cameras. The stadiums are actually at a much improved level.
This is just a basic optics factor. All the other major Asian leagues have this by now and it's necessary we do"This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
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"This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh
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Part of me thinks a move to La Liga for a middle tier club would suit him, although this wouldn't be my first choice and he will miss European football.
Remember it was the phone call of the two Carloses which got him to Europe. This guy knows him well, being the lynchpin of their team - could be worse things:
https://twitter.com/carloscarvalha2
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Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View PostPart of me thinks a move to La Liga for a middle tier club would suit him, although this wouldn't be my first choice and he will miss European football.
Remember it was the phone call of the two Carloses which got him to Europe. This guy knows him well, being the lynchpin of their team - could be worse things:
https://twitter.com/carloscarvalha2
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