Mehdi Taremi @ FC Porto | 2023/24

[perspolis#1]

I get German clubs . Bayern or Dortmund all the time. I think that would be suitable opponent.

I wish.

I'm getting Man City or Real Madrid. No thank you

[mehdi13]

I think you can make a strong argument that considering their European ventures and their national team games, you can make a strong argument that Mehdi Taermi is Asia's second best player - ever (after Heung-Min Son).

2nd ever!? Not even close. How is 5 years in Portugal more impressive than even what someone like Al Habsi accomplished in England? And we don’t have enough time to discuss east asian players…

[Nokhodi]

2nd ever!? Not even close. How is 5 years in Portugal more impressive than even what someone like Al Habsi accomplished in England? And we don’t have enough time to discuss east asian players…

Man you really are a hater aren't you?

What have other Asian players done as consistently and at a level like the Champions league?

Fine, he is garbage. He should be lucky to play Maldives Mahallat Selectional.

[mehdi13]

Man you really are a hater aren't you?

What have other Asian players done as consistently and at a level like the Champions league?

Fine, he is garbage. He should be lucky to play Maldives Mahallat Selectional.

Its either best or worst? I’m not a hater. I just recognize the difference between PL/BL and Portuguese league. Its more difficult to be shagerd aval at a community college or top 10 in an Ivy league school? And as I’ve unsuccessfully tried to argue before… CL level is too much of a variable, masalan emsal be Shakhtar dota gol zad… Ukraine. But Al Habsi for example was in goal against the best strikers in the world every week. In Portugal, would the best CBs start in PL?

[PrinceAli]

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[perspolis#1]

But Al Habsi for example was in goal against the best strikers in the world every week. In Portugal, would the best CBs start in PL?

Al Habsi's stint in EPL was much shorter than you are advertising.

Between 2006 and 2011 he played 10 games for bolton. 10 games over 5 seasons!

In Wigan where he played most of his PL games he was the starter from 2011-2013, then got dropped. Wigan got relegated in 2013 so he spent two years in the Championship.

For a majority of his career he was not against RVP, Rooney etc he was up against African pace merchant rejects or English hoof merchants in the Championship.


From 2015-2018, Reading spent their entire time in the Championship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Al-Habsi


He is still the most successful Asian goalkeeper in Europe but playing in CL and producing is much higher a level than whatever Al Habsi had to do.

[taremiscores]

Man you really are a hater aren't you?

What have other Asian players done as consistently and at a level like the Champions league?

Fine, he is garbage. He should be lucky to play Maldives Mahallat Selectional.

My mother is from Mahallat, great small city btw Love that place when I was a kid.

[mehdi13]

Al Habsi's stint in EPL was much shorter than you are advertising.

Between 2006 and 2011 he played 10 games for bolton. 10 games over 5 seasons!

In Wigan where he played most of his PL games he was the starter from 2011-2013, then got dropped. Wigan got relegated in 2013 so he spent two years in the Championship.

For a majority of his career he was not against RVP, Rooney etc he was up against African pace merchant rejects or English hoof merchants in the Championship.


From 2015-2018, Reading spent their entire time in the Championship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Al-Habsi


He is still the most successful Asian goalkeeper in Europe but playing in CL and producing is much higher a level than whatever Al Habsi had to do.

Certainly better than anything Iran has sent to Championship or PL. Our legend, Ando, who according to many was great fit for English game, had a one good month in 4 years there!

Anyways, for me Taremi is not even best Iranian. Mahdavikia is the one. And Nokhodi jan, MT doesn’t have to be last, he is maybe no. 3 for me (of the players I watched in my life.)

[perspolis#1]

Certainly better than anything Iran has sent to Championship or PL. Our legend, Ando, who according to many was great fit for English game, had a one good month in 4 years there!

Anyways, for me Taremi is not even best Iranian. Mahdavikia is the one. And Nokhodi jan, MT doesn’t have to be last, he is maybe no. 3 for me (of the players I watched in my life.)

Compared to other Asian players, its not even that special an accomplishment anymore. Al Habsi was one of the Asian players who lasted two seasons in EPL but now there are several that have done longer than that.

Taremi got the golden boot in his league which is a genuine accomplishment. He also scored against UCL level opposition and faced regularly.
Sure Al Habsi got a lot of action playing for the relegation level teams he was in which makes a goalkeeper look good, the way if you put Taremi in a chance machine like Man City he would look great but trash in Man Utd.

Playing in the EPL is tough for our players and Ghoddos is just pulling it off.
You can note that only Japanese/South Korean/Australian players do well in EPL from Asia.

Only North African Arabs do well and none of the Middle East Arab nations had players that got close.
Saudi had one guy who apparently went and trialed with an EPL team and got so banged up he cried and went back to Saudi.

One can measure success in other leagues too and CL success means something. Not everything needs to be EPL.

[Pluto2000]

In terms of legionnaires only, he is by far the most consistent in terms of performance. I don't remember even any of the previous greats doing well 4-5 seasons in a row. Most of them had 1-2 wonder seasons then fell off hard or came back to Iran

[Nokhodi]

My mother is from Mahallat, great small city btw Love that place when I was a kid.

Mahallat is indeed a great town. I have ancestors from nearby in Golpayegan.

Although in this case I meant Mahallast as in small town in general!

[sam20]

In terms of legionnaires only, he is by far the most consistent in terms of performance. I don't remember even any of the previous greats doing well 4-5 seasons in a row. Most of them had 1-2 wonder seasons then fell off hard or came back to Iran

Mahdavikia and Nekounam definitely had multiple seasons playing well in Europe, and they were in tougher leagues (bundesliga and La Liga) + they were not on the best team in the league... More like top 4 for Mahdavikia (only first couple years approx then Hamburg went further down the table).

[DR Strangemoosh]

In terms of legionnaires only, he is by far the most consistent in terms of performance. I don't remember even any of the previous greats doing well 4-5 seasons in a row. Most of them had 1-2 wonder seasons then fell off hard or came back to Iran

Mahdavikia, Nekounam, Rezaei all had between 5-7 good seasons - although can accept that Taremi's consecutive two seasons might eclipse them.

The weird thing is that all three of them became cult figures at their clubs, whereas bichareh Taremi is being destroyed by all of their fans apart from the ones who attend the stadium

[aria32]

Mahdavikia, Nekounam, Rezaei all had between 5-7 good seasons - although can accept that Taremi's consecutive two seasons might eclipse them.

The weird thing is that all three of them became cult figures at their clubs, whereas bichareh Taremi is being destroyed by all of their fans apart from the ones who attend the stadium

Porto and portuguese clubs in general don’t seem to have the culture of worshipping foreigners. They seem very biased towards their own portuguese speaking players

[DR Strangemoosh]

True - the Brentford fans are singing Samans praises because of his defensive contribution, utility and work rate, whereas I don't think a single Porto fan knows that Taremi has amongst the best defensive stats in the champions league (more successful tackles than João Cancelo) and contributes so much to their team all over the pitch

It may be harsh, but the ones on the internet are kinda football illiterate