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    Team Melli beyond Asian cup

    As we know, TM avg age is almost 30. We had the OLDEST team at the world cup, so many players are at the end of the their careers in next few seasons.

    Taremi (31) - Guaranteed starter, he has body and playstyle to last him for a long time until next world cup.

    Azmoun (29) - He is a shell of his former self, constantly injured and overweight. Still one of our best players but he is reaching almost 30 years old and getting worse every year

    Jahanbakhsh (29) - He is a very hard worker but like Azmoun, he has only gotten worse over the years. He can rarely make a good pass anymore, and his future as a TM starter is slowly fading away with the likes of Mohebi/Gholi/Allahyar in the team.

    Haj Safi (33) - Asian cup will probably mark the end of Haj Safi as TM left back as a starter, its self explanatory but I don't know how many years he has left on his knees despite still being very fit and a starter in greece, especially when he will be 37 for 2026 world cup.

    Aside the aforementioned above players, here is how old the following players will be for 2026 world cup:

    Gholizadeh - 31
    Ezatolahi - 30
    Kanaani - 32
    Moharrami - 31
    Majid Hosseini - 32
    Beiranvand - 33
    Ghoddos - 32
    etc.

    Given that, it feels like we are reaching an end of an era for team melli, as many of our best players will at the end of their prime in next 2-3 years. Having said that, what's next for the team?

    When is it time to start focusing on players like Salmani, Jalali, Rostami, Doustali, Mohebi, Ghaedi, Hazbavi, Allahyar (not a lot of hopes for him since he is always injured, hope he proves me wrong). etc

    Right now GN is scared of starting younger players because he needs to win every game unless he wants TM supporters to call for him to resign immediately, as is nature of TM coaches.

    What do yall think? lets discuss what needs to be done

    #2
    GN can't win with playing youth because his tactics suck and his selection is old, and he needs to win like you said so it there's no risk taking. If we had a good coach that played with some identity and still lost while playing younger players, I think many people would give the coach the benefit of the doubt, but because GN plays old players and has no clear tactical plan, it's a bad situation.

    The best situation is we bring a qualified foreign coach with IPL experience, who has a clear vision and tactical agenda, to GN at some point with a long term contract after the Asian Cup so he can give a chance to take risks.

    GN at the WC 2026 is a disaster unless he somehow gets to Asian cup semi final and gives us a good showing there. QF and he should be fired imo.
    Last edited by Hosseini; 08-03-2023, 09:00 PM.

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      #3
      If we look at the Iranian diaspora, some good players can be identified.

      https://www.transfermarkt.com/detail...suche/44078046

      Scouts should watch the following and see if they have TM potential.

      https://www.transfermarkt.com/eisa-p...spieler/632908

      https://www.transfermarkt.com/ali-ka...spieler/589100

      https://www.transfermarkt.com/arash-...spieler/755312

      https://www.transfermarkt.com/milad-...spieler/729177

      https://www.transfermarkt.com/arvin-...pieler/1016315


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        #4
        Woah we have a left back who is 17 (Davoud-Kia) and Arash (Right back) who is 20 both playing for Sweden first division Kalmar??

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          #5
          Main problem will be finding new DM/revamping midfield line and hoping sardar regains form because their is nobody close to his level to partner taremi.


          ---------------Niazmand--------------

          Moharrami--Majid--Hazbavi--Jalali

          ------------------DM----------------
          ----yadegar---------Yasin------

          Mohebbi-----Sardar----Taremi

          The likes of Torabi, Gholizadeh, Kanaani, Ghoddos etc will still be useful squad players with good experience. I think Hardani will probably have a revival under nekounam so that gives more depth for RB spot, hopefully Jalali will too as he is the natural successor for hajsafi.

          From younger age groups: RB Nima Andarz from u17 looks to have huge long term potential, as do his teammates Gholizadeh and Razzaghinia (DM). In a couple years these guys may be ready depending on what kind of performances they show at the U17 WC in November, they will be 18 a couple months after with chance to transfer to europe. DMs from u20 Enayatzadeh (Perspolis) and Torabi (SS) were also promising, and Ghorbani from Sepahan (u23).

          Offensively Mohebbi will probably continue growing into his role and improve his game in Russia, he combines well with taremi and sardar and gives raw speed/physicality. Defensively Jalali is a more natural LB than hajsafi and will give more balance, and hazbavi can be our starting CB for the next decade.

          Issue will be CM. Our team sucks now bc there is no cm line, we go right from defense to attack and struggle to build up in possession or have adequate protection for our defense out of possession, especially in transition moments. We need to prioritize integrating a new generation of midfielders that have mobility and a high degree of technical proficiency. If Yasin and Yadegar are able to develop in europe they can be key in providing that for us, but will still need a strong defensive anchor to balance out the team. Barring a Taremi style career revolution Ezatolahi will likely not be able to bring that, and after AC we should start considering new options there.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Pluto2000 View Post

            Woah we have a left back who is 17 (Davoud-Kia) and Arash (Right back) who is 20 both playing for Sweden first division Kalmar??
            Follow this thread, they are spoken about:

            https://www.persianfootball.com/foru...ithout-threads
            "This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh

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              #7
              Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
              Main problem will be finding new DM/revamping midfield line and hoping sardar regains form because their is nobody close to his level to partner taremi.


              ---------------Niazmand--------------

              Moharrami--Majid--Hazbavi--Jalali

              ------------------DM----------------
              ----yadegar---------Yasin------

              Mohebbi-----Sardar----Taremi

              The likes of Torabi, Gholizadeh, Kanaani, Ghoddos etc will still be useful squad players with good experience. I think Hardani will probably have a revival under nekounam so that gives more depth for RB spot, hopefully Jalali will too as he is the natural successor for hajsafi.

              From younger age groups: RB Nima Andarz from u17 looks to have huge long term potential, as do his teammates Gholizadeh and Razzaghinia (DM). In a couple years these guys may be ready depending on what kind of performances they show at the U17 WC in November, they will be 18 a couple months after with chance to transfer to europe. DMs from u20 Enayatzadeh (Perspolis) and Torabi (SS) were also promising, and Ghorbani from Sepahan (u23).

              Offensively Mohebbi will probably continue growing into his role and improve his game in Russia, he combines well with taremi and sardar and gives raw speed/physicality. Defensively Jalali is a more natural LB than hajsafi and will give more balance, and hazbavi can be our starting CB for the next decade.

              Issue will be CM. Our team sucks now bc there is no cm line, we go right from defense to attack and struggle to build up in possession or have adequate protection for our defense out of possession, especially in transition moments. We need to prioritize integrating a new generation of midfielders that have mobility and a high degree of technical proficiency. If Yasin and Yadegar are able to develop in europe they can be key in providing that for us, but will still need a strong defensive anchor to balance out the team. Barring a Taremi style career revolution Ezatolahi will likely not be able to bring that, and after AC we should start considering new options there.
              Well said, I think that's probably what's stopping team melli from heavily competing against teams like SK or Japan, we have good forwards, but our LB and pace of midfield is abysmal. I really think Rostami and Salmani should be integrated into the squad already, both already somewhat proved themselves. I also ready do hope Jalali gets a resurgence, he was great a while back

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                #8
                My prediction is hajsooti will be around for 2026 wc...he be first ever with 4 wc appearance in row
                and his personality won't allow him miss that opportunity.....

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                  Main problem will be finding new DM/revamping midfield line and hoping sardar regains form because their is nobody close to his level to partner taremi.


                  ---------------Niazmand--------------

                  Moharrami--Majid--Hazbavi--Jalali

                  ------------------DM----------------
                  ----yadegar---------Yasin------

                  Mohebbi-----Sardar----Taremi

                  The likes of Torabi, Gholizadeh, Kanaani, Ghoddos etc will still be useful squad players with good experience. I think Hardani will probably have a revival under nekounam so that gives more depth for RB spot, hopefully Jalali will too as he is the natural successor for hajsafi.

                  From younger age groups: RB Nima Andarz from u17 looks to have huge long term potential, as do his teammates Gholizadeh and Razzaghinia (DM). In a couple years these guys may be ready depending on what kind of performances they show at the U17 WC in November, they will be 18 a couple months after with chance to transfer to europe. DMs from u20 Enayatzadeh (Perspolis) and Torabi (SS) were also promising, and Ghorbani from Sepahan (u23).

                  Offensively Mohebbi will probably continue growing into his role and improve his game in Russia, he combines well with taremi and sardar and gives raw speed/physicality. Defensively Jalali is a more natural LB than hajsafi and will give more balance, and hazbavi can be our starting CB for the next decade.

                  Issue will be CM. Our team sucks now bc there is no cm line, we go right from defense to attack and struggle to build up in possession or have adequate protection for our defense out of possession, especially in transition moments. We need to prioritize integrating a new generation of midfielders that have mobility and a high degree of technical proficiency. If Yasin and Yadegar are able to develop in europe they can be key in providing that for us, but will still need a strong defensive anchor to balance out the team. Barring a Taremi style career revolution Ezatolahi will likely not be able to bring that, and after AC we should start considering new options there.
                  Our TM coach, specially GN are too lazy to play the "Iran got a DM talent". Instead of searching testing new young players (Salmani, Yadegar, Ghorbani, khodabandelou, razza..) they test some old fart or average IPL players.

                  Dont understand why IFF is suddenly getting friendlies for GN to waste them with Asadi as a striker or Ghaedi??

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post

                    Our TM coach, specially GN are too lazy to play the "Iran got a DM talent". Instead of searching testing new young players (Salmani, Yadegar, Ghorbani, khodabandelou, razza..) they test some old fart or average IPL players.

                    Dont understand why IFF is suddenly getting friendlies for GN to waste them with Asadi as a striker or Ghaedi??
                    The issue just boils down to our federation, they don't have a plan and they are brainless. They don't really work with long term goals, like developing youth academies or try to increase player visibility to so that recruiters from better teams can actually see them in HD cameras. We need federation to bring in someone who has a 6-10 year plan to build team from bottom up (like quieroz did) with younger players as a focus and older players support in background. The issue is they are corrupt and don't care/highly incompetent

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pluto2000 View Post

                      The issue just boils down to our federation, they don't have a plan and they are brainless. They don't really work with long term goals, like developing youth academies or try to increase player visibility to so that recruiters from better teams can actually see them in HD cameras. We need federation to bring in someone who has a 6-10 year plan to build team from bottom up (like quieroz did) with younger players as a focus and older players support in background. The issue is they are corrupt and don't care/highly incompetent
                      We can't guarantee 6-10 years to a coach, imagine being stucked with a wilmots like

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                        #12
                        Just keep in mined guys
                        now a days because of knowledge of nutrition,
                        And medical advances , persian players are able to perform on to their best until they are 33ish. Best .....best 11 play regardless of age needs to.play because tm fans have no patience for bad results even in friendly matches galenoie will not risk.


                        Tm starting 11(age of players)for 2026 wc if galenoie is around.
                        BErin khodaroro shoker Kunid if he don't start hajsafi o rezian both at 36...from the line up below
                        only player might not start is jalali..he might move norafkan to lb and start hajsafi with saeed...the rest take a screen shot and remember oracle when game 1 wc26 starting line up is announce.


                        Biravand (34)
                        moharami(30). Kanani(32) majidi (30) Jalali(28)
                        . Saeed (29) Norafkan(29)
                        Golizadeh(30) Torabi (32)
                        . Medi (34) Sardar (31)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by oracle View Post
                          Just keep in mined guys
                          now a days because of knowledge of nutrition,
                          And medical advances , persian players are able to perform on to their best until they are 33ish. Best .....best 11 play regardless of age needs to.play because tm fans have no patience for bad results even in friendly matches galenoie will not risk.


                          Tm starting 11(age of players)for 2026 wc if galenoie is around.
                          BErin khodaroro shoker Kunid if he don't start hajsafi o rezian both at 36...from the line up below
                          only player might not start is jalali..he might move norafkan to lb and start hajsafi with saeed...the rest take a screen shot and remember oracle when game 1 wc26 starting line up is announce.


                          Biravand (34)
                          moharami(30). Kanani(32) majidi (30) Jalali(28)
                          . Saeed (29) Norafkan(29)
                          Golizadeh(30) Torabi (32)
                          . Medi (34) Sardar (31)


                          ​​​I'm scared of the speed of that midfield 😭. Imagine playing fast Japanese players with that midfield

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pluto2000 View Post



                            ​​​I'm scared of the speed of that midfield 😭. Imagine playing fast Japanese players with that midfield
                            I hope I am wrong, but galenoie is very predictable.

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                              #15
                              Mohamad mylikohan like him or not
                              ONLY TEAM MELLI COACH had balls to go young. Mamad mayli played 14 years for pp and he was architect of golden generation of 96 ac to-2004....if he didn't make players pray at hft, fans would of never turned their back on him getting 1 pt from last 3wcq98 group matches after starting with 11pt in first 5 matches...if he didn't make players pray that tm with mylikohan
                              would of beat Japan and never need it Melbourne miracle...if he didn't make players pray tm would of won the 2000 ac and would of qualified for 2002wc with azizi...but he made players do namaz at ht and fans got pissed at him and first time the chant OF TOOP TANK FESHFESHEH FELANI. K..SK..EH WAS invented
                              For k..sk..sh. e .k..sk..sha. mamad myli who was known to smoke hash, drink whiskey from bottle and lisson to hotel california .....after that coaches learned their lesson not to mix sports with religion.

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