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    Originally posted by mehdi13 View Post

    And what did anyone except Taremi do with the door he opened? We need our best legionnaires to be present. We’re not like other countries.
    Alipour was doing great before getting injuried. Even Mohebi could at least save his career with a move to Rostov.
    Those who miserably came back to IPL at least enhanced IPL level

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      Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post


      applies to sardar as well
      oooh.... making such comments IN THE MEDIA suggests to me that he has had it with Roma's cheapAsss/penny pinching transfer policy and possibly wouldnt mind getting the ax there ...? although he is essentially Stating the Obvious..!!
      himself is just about the most attractive aspect of Roma anymore as a destination club for new signings... and he looks to have had it with their front office..??

      If i were sardar .... i wouldnt sign the contract until coach and mgmt there clarify my role in the club..!! if not Get OUT....!!!

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        "This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh

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          Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
          TM first
          Anyone who turns his back to TM for club interest is not worth following closely!
          Specially for such a major tournament!
          If it was freindly, first round of WCQ, tokhmi tournament it was understandable, but not AC!
          Hope this news is BS!
          Anyway, his TM career is on decline also, majority of his goals came before age of 25!
          Thats why Daei remain legend


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          the difference with sardar and without him is shockingly clear. We saw that when sardar was out and we played moghanlou with taremi and mohebbi. Its like a 10+ level drop. Saying otherwise would just be a total lie.

          Without Sardar + Taremi, there is no TM. Go look at the stupid CAFA cup for evidence of that.

          Before crucifying him lets see what the truth is, in latest interview he gave to V3 right before leaving Iran where he mentioned all details about mourinho initial contact, he also mentioned how excited he is for AC and working with iranian coach in TM.

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            Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post

            Lukaku, who couldnt start over 37 years old dzeko last year? Abraham is not in the picture period, earliest he will be back is april, basically at the end of the season, and even then after ACL tear will take months to get back into any type of reliable form.

            If Sardar wants to play on a top team competition is the name of the game. If he doesn't like it or should "cancel the move" after greeting fans at the airport and facetiming mou, then really the best place for him is zenit. This is the loser mentality that Iranian footballers are famous for. But if he went there you guys would all throw a fit too... However, the situation you describe where he walks in and is handed the keys to the city can only be recapitulated if he went back down to that kind of level.

            Going to Atalanta? You think there is lack of competition there? They just signed Scamacca from west ham for 25 million (got him before Inter did) and Charles de Ketalaere on loan from AC milan and both sat on the bench behind Zapata (mou's first choice) and Lookman, not to mention luis muriel colombian international still sitting on the bench too. This is not even considering their record signing Bilal Toure, who will be back in 3-4 months following thigh surgery. Count how many fwds he would be competing with there...

            Roma are a massive club, are in Europa League and fighting for CL qualification+ in Italy this year. They play a 2 CF system, 4 players for a 2 CF system is standard practice. In this case 1 of the 4 (Dybala) can even play behind the 2. The other 1 belotti does not have a fraction of sardar's talent, although is a hard worker, but with very little production since moving to Roma. All 3 of Sardar, Belotti and Lukaku are struggling on an off with injury issues in the past 2 seasons.

            Of course, he will have to earn every minute, at leverkusen or at roma...Still in all there is less competition here because of 2 fwd setup, which xabi would never employ.​
            These "our player" is better than X, works well on paper but in reality it doesn't aged well. Beiro was supposed to be better than a random Jean Butez. Sardar was supposed to be better than Hlozek, Adli, Ghoddos than some Brentford players. At the end, other factors come into account.

            I agree injuries could very well decide who will play more, just have to rely on some luck. Lukaku has a wonderful hype around him in Italy, no wonder wy every top italian clubs wants him. He can have some period off but he also scores some important goals (like against Porto last season).

            True Roma use to play with 2 strikers, they also have El shawaary playing upfront all the pre season, and Solbakken too.

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              It's almost 5 PM in Rome and it's Friday.
              Is the physical done yet?

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                Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post

                Alipour was doing great before getting injuried. Even Mohebi could at least save his career with a move to Rostov.
                Those who miserably came back to IPL at least enhanced IPL level
                Mohebbi and Alipour’s career and IPL level (a league 40 people outside of Iran watch) are small things. Those players will never make a difference against Korea or Japan if they couldn’t show themselves consistently against fishermen. We can add all the Portugal flops to the lineup of 11 and play with 14-15 and still lose…

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                  Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post

                  the difference with sardar and without him is shockingly clear. We saw that when sardar was out and we played moghanlou with taremi and mohebbiIts like a 10+ level drop. Saying otherwise would just be a total lie.

                  Without Sardar + Taremi, there is no TM. Go look at the stupid CAFA cup for evidence of that.

                  Before crucifying him lets see what the truth is, in latest interview he gave to V3 right before leaving Iran where he mentioned all details about mourinho initial contact, he also mentioned how excited he is for AC and working with iranian coach in TM.
                  We badly need an alternative behind Azmoun and Taremi. If one is off (AZmoun at the WC, Taremi in semi final of AC19) we are in big trouble.

                  Allahyar seems to be done for a moment, had high hopes on Zahedi but he lost his football. Moghanloo and Asadi come after but are 3 classes behind. Barzegar does absolutely nothing at club level and we don't have much hope in our yound players (except the guy in Poland)

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                    Originally posted by mehdi13 View Post

                    Mohebbi and Alipour’s career and IPL level (a league 40 people outside of Iran watch) are small things. Those players will never make a difference against Korea or Japan if they couldn’t show themselves consistently against fishermen. We can add all the Portugal flops to the lineup of 11 and play with 14-15 and still lose…
                    it is small things, but it is with the base (our domestic league) we will improve the top (TM).

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                      Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post

                      it is small things, but it is with the base (our domestic league) we will improve the top (TM).
                      In the long term, yes I agree. But for January, I strongly believe no Azmoun will mean TM doesn’t go far. Imo he is done at top Euro level, but still very valuable for AFC. I hope these are all rumors and he has more gheyrat and pride than some of us think.

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                        Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post

                        Lukaku, who couldnt start over 37 years old dzeko last year? Abraham is not in the picture period, earliest he will be back is april, basically at the end of the season, and even then after ACL tear will take months to get back into any type of reliable form.

                        If Sardar wants to play on a top team competition is the name of the game. If he doesn't like it or should "cancel the move" after greeting fans at the airport and facetiming mou, then really the best place for him is zenit. This is the loser mentality that Iranian footballers are famous for. But if he went there you guys would all throw a fit too... However, the situation you describe where he walks in and is handed the keys to the city can only be recapitulated if he went back down to that kind of level.

                        Going to Atalanta? You think there is lack of competition there? They just signed Scamacca from west ham for 25 million (got him before Inter did) and Charles de Ketalaere on loan from AC milan and both sat on the bench behind Zapata (mou's first choice) and Lookman, not to mention luis muriel colombian international still sitting on the bench too. This is not even considering their record signing Bilal Toure, who will be back in 3-4 months following thigh surgery. Count how many fwds he would be competing with there...

                        Roma are a massive club, are in Europa League and fighting for CL qualification+ in Italy this year. They play a 2 CF system, 4 players for a 2 CF system is standard practice. In this case 1 of the 4 (Dybala) can even play behind the 2. The other 1 belotti does not have a fraction of sardar's talent, although is a hard worker, but with very little production since moving to Roma. All 4 are struggling on an off with injury issues in the past 2 seasons.

                        Do you realize how much competition roma have in other positions? Take 3 CM slots for instance (assuming they don't use dybala as CAM, which they very well might)...Paredes (WC winner), Renato Sanches, Lorenzo Pellegrini (captain), mou favorite Cristante, highly rated youngster from their academy Eduoardo Bove, and Houssem Auoar - their star free agent signing from Lyon. 6 recognized midfield players + Dybala for 3 spots. Yes, competition is everywhere !

                        Of course, he will have to earn every minute, at leverkusen or at roma...Still in all there is less competition here because of 2 fwd setup, which xabi would never employ.​
                        so Fulham it is then..!!

                        jkn.... you make great points for signing at Roma there.... intense inner-squad competition for game minutes is just a Simple Fact of professional life Playing for a well renowned EU club... be it Roma/Milans such..!!

                        but skipping on TM @AC becomes inexcusable, if indeed true.... i have held my negative remarks about the matter to the min before until clarifications are made and we hear it from the horses mouth.... but so far as im concerned too, all these players are dear to us and we follow their careers and ups and downs Only because of the roles they play in the National Team .... if they turn their backs to TM then the fkn hell with them and their eu or whatever careers... !!

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                          Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post

                          We badly need an alternative behind Azmoun and Taremi. If one is off (AZmoun at the WC, Taremi in semi final of AC19) we are in big trouble.

                          Allahyar seems to be done for a moment, had high hopes on Zahedi but he lost his football. Moghanloo and Asadi come after but are 3 classes behind. Barzegar does absolutely nothing at club level and we don't have much hope in our yound players (except the guy in Poland)
                          Dennis Eckert. We need to nab him but Amir Ghaleneoi doesn’t even know who he is! I If he keeps his goal scoring form he will get a move to top 4 league next year.
                          "This is a totalitarian system whose presence people feel in their blood and in their flesh on a daily basis. And it’s one that does not grant freedoms of any kind, or accommodate people’s demands in any way. What is increasingly clear is that there is clear demand for change in the regime. What the people want is regime change, and no return to the past. There is a very real possibility of regime change." - Nasrin Sotoudeh

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                            Status on his medical?

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                              Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post

                              We badly need an alternative behind Azmoun and Taremi. If one is off (AZmoun at the WC, Taremi in semi final of AC19) we are in big trouble.

                              Allahyar seems to be done for a moment, had high hopes on Zahedi but he lost his football. Moghanloo and Asadi come after but are 3 classes behind. Barzegar does absolutely nothing at club level and we don't have much hope in our yound players (except the guy in Poland)
                              Even if Allahyar was fit, he wouldn't be a good striker like Azmoun, he is more of winger like ARJ. This is true though, our next generation of strikers are massively lacking.

                              We have Dostali in Poland who has very good talent.
                              We also have that 6'4 Kaveh guy who just transferred to Belgium top league.

                              It essential TM offer good incentives to Eckert as either way Azmoun is not fit for a full 90 min game anyways.

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                                passed the medical acc to kicker. Will be announced shortly.

                                https://www.kicker.de/azmoun-leihe-s.../artikel#omrss

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