Saman Ghoddos @ Brentford FC | 2023-24

[persiangodfather]

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[koorosh]

You need to work on reading comprehension.

I said I do not care about their background. There ARE people who do, who have messed up our teams mental game before just as they were tearing down Taremi before the World Cup.

I don't want them to consider political backgrounds of families, but these people do.

Talk of "infecting" is you projecting, the reason Poya Asbaghi won't ever be called up to help our national team is because of some mouthbreather in Iran's government who reads that Poya's family ran away because of political persecution.

So my short answer to your narrow response is there are people who use their background to propel their own agenda and I'm happy Saman avoids all the bullets so we have our only good CM and EPL player since the Dejagah era.

I'm sorry, was my comprehension of your ~20 word original post wrong?

In fact Saman hasn't avoided being targeted. He has faced direct criticism from some of "those " people .

And you know, my first reaction of that interview clip, as Saman sheepishly confirmed that they record him so that he doesn't say the wrong thing, was...why does he allow himself to be treated as such? As a person who grew up and lives in a free society, how can he allow the loss of his rights? What does he gain by that public loss of dignity that was documented for his native Sweden and projected on social media.



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[perspolis#1]

I'm sorry, was my comprehension of your ~20 word original post wrong?

In fact Saman hasn't avoided being targeted. He has faced direct criticism from some of "those " people .

And you know, my first reaction of that interview clip, as Saman sheepishly confirmed that they record him so that he doesn't say the wrong thing, was...why does he allow himself to be treated as such? As a person who grew up and lives in a free society, how can he allow the loss of his rights? What does he gain by that public loss of dignity that was documented for his native Sweden and projected on social media.



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You first called it a long answer and now its 20 words, so which is it?

Some people always dreamed of playing for Team Melli from a young age regardless of the implications/complications. Love of your country can be greater than hatred of a regime.

Players including Daei, Karimi, Bagheri, Zarrincheh, etc all have gone to US/Europe, greencards or otherwise and get exposed to life there and seem to prefer it and want those freedoms for Iranians.

I doubt Ghoddos gains anything from this obvious truth being revealed to the world.

If everybody in Iran who knows what a free society is left Iran, the only people left would be the regime's folks and religious zealots from Afghanistan and Pakistan and our country would deteriorate.

Sepas, I'm happy these things are not an issue for our team in our chances in winning the tournament and Unfortunately will rear its ugly head 1000x over in 2026.

[Medzdidz]

Romano linking Brentford with Brugge winger Antonio Nusa.

[koorosh]

You first called it a long answer and now its 20 words, so which is it? Orignial post short and problematic, long replies all danced around its fundamental problem. You are way too intelligent to not see to which I was referring. Just acknowledge the problems rather than keep moving off the debate.

Some people always dreamed of playing for Team Melli from a young age regardless of the implications/complications. Love of your country can be greater than hatred of a regime. True

Players including Daei, Karimi, Bagheri, Zarrincheh, etc all have gone to US/Europe, greencards or otherwise and get exposed to life there and seem to prefer it and want those freedoms for Iranians. > None of those players had an option of playing in a different NT, Unlike Saman. And all of those people had their immediate families & much else in Iran too...all real and practical attachments that don't affect Saman.

I doubt Ghoddos gains anything from this obvious truth being revealed to the world. He gains the continuing honor and rewards of playing for a NT and in a WC. Playing in a NT does keep your stock relevant in a big way. Ask a football agent and they'll tell you.

If everybody in Iran who knows what a free society is left Iran, the only people left would be the regime's folks and religious zealots from Afghanistan and Pakistan and our country would deteriorate. Not sure of the relevance...Saman did not leave out of his own volition and Particularly hypocritical coming from someone who already lives in a rich free country. Iranians who choose to leave Iran are no less than those who choose to stay.

Sepas, I'm happy these things are not an issue for our team in our chances in winning the tournament and Unfortunately will rear its ugly head 1000x over in 2026. Please reread your original post. That kind of labeling/view is precisely is reason the WC2026 problems you forebod exist.

He is a football player and he wants to play for Iran and in the WC. I sure am happy he chose Iran.

I don't care that his family is IRI or MEK or not. You said you did.

[perspolis#1]

He is a football player and he wants to play for Iran and in the WC. I sure am happy he chose Iran.

I don't care that his family is IRI or MEK or not. You said you did.

I'm happy he isnt because its less pressure on him from those who would hold it against him. I'm not sure you are getting this part of it which led to our back and forth.

I made no such implication between value of Iranians in or outside of Iran. I hand money to family members who go there to give to those in need the only way I know I can give back for now. People in Iran drive the countrys future forward more than anything I can do out here and I acknowledge that.

It sounds like you think Ghoddos plays for Iran for personal gain which is a not so nice thing to think about our star player.

[KasraKhan]

Saman on the bench vs Liverpool.

It sucks because it seems like he lost his starting spot going to the Asian Cup plus with Brentford's acquisition of Reguilon (whose been starting at LWB).

At the least, Saman should be starting at RWB ahead of Roesrslev.

[diz]

Saman on the bench vs Liverpool.

It sucks because it seems like he lost his starting spot going to the Asian Cup plus with Brentford's acquisition of Reguilon (whose been starting at LWB).

At the least, Saman should be starting at RWB ahead of Roesrslev.

seems not only did we come home empty handed from AC, all our major legionnaires seem to have dropped off their prior club forms/positions. Just great.

[Essi]

He got only 6 minutes.

[Azmoun_shireh]

I had one of the most traumatic experiences of my life in Brentford, just before Christmas. The area is truly a massive shithole, inhabited by Tory cunts.

[KasraKhan]

Saman came on in the 89th minute in a 1-0 loss to Man City. Sigh...

[Malkay]

I had one of the most traumatic experiences of my life in Brentford, just before Christmas. The area is truly a massive shithole, inhabited by Tory cunts.

Inhabited by Tories? The whole borough of Hounslow is a Labour heartland and the two Brentford wards are Labour with 1 independent.

Are you sure you were in Brentford and not Brentwood

[Azmoun_shireh]

Inhabited by Tories? The whole borough of Hounslow is a Labour heartland and the two Brentford wards are Labour with 1 independent.

Are you sure you were in Brentford and not Brentwood

I'm talking more about the people that have started to move into the area.

The area has become gentrified in the last 10 years and is full of young aspirational conservative (socially and/or politically) families that can't afford to live in the surrounding areas like Richmond and Kew yet.

It's a weird mix of deprived council estates and then lots of terraced houses that are in the region of 700k to 1 million pounds.

The gentrified social life also reflects the type of people that have moved into the area, lots of dull and boring bars and pubs.

I say this because my ex gf lives in Kew and her brother lives in Brentford so I know the area well and unfortunately I've had to socialise with a lot of the people that lived in the area.

[Malkay]

It's a weird mix of deprived council estates and then lots of terraced houses that are in the region of 700k to 1 million pounds.

The gentrified social life also reflects the type of people that have moved into the area, lots of dull and boring bars and pubs.

I mean... you could be describing almost any residential suburb in zones 4 - 6, particularly in West and SW London

It has been a few years since I passed through Brentford so maybe it's changed dramatically. Perhaps that big Barratt Homes development where Ealing Rd meets the M4 is to blame. Yuppie Tory youth getting on the housing ladder with Help to Buy, invading what was always a working class Brentford.

What was the traumatic experience, I'm intrigued? Did you see Saman pulling wooden splinters out of his bum outside the Watermans Centre?

[Azmoun_shireh]

I mean... you could be describing almost any residential suburb in zones 4 - 6, particularly in West and SW London

It has been a few years since I passed through Brentford so maybe it's changed dramatically. Perhaps that big Barratt Homes development where Ealing Rd meets the M4 is to blame. Yuppie Tory youth getting on the housing ladder with Help to Buy, invading what was always a working class Brentford.

What was the traumatic experience, I'm intrigued? Did you see Saman pulling wooden splinters out of his bum outside the Watermans Centre?

I don't want to say too much as it's a personal matter but all I will say is I attended a problematic Christmas party that led to my ex and I having a big fight and breaking up.