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    #16
    Originally posted by oracle View Post

    Mosalman and Sadeghian they both were doing
    narcotics.......
    Both could of been starters this coming ac....

    mosalman had most punchable face, especially when he wore SnapBack hats sideways

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      #17
      I think the blame is probably on clubs and maybe CQ . Because in the past we had players like :

      Bagheri ,Nekounam Shojaei , Ando , Karimi , Jabbari, Omid ebrahimi and even players like Nouri , Zandi and sattar zareh.

      Its sad that even our top quality Midfield players have gone down the drain. e.g. Ezzatollahi (semi failure) , Nourollahi (arab money lover failure)

      Maybe the blame is on CQ for his tactics in Team melli. All our players parked the bus and played as either defensive MD or CB in the back.

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        #18
        i've said this many times but probably mostly because Most iranian footballers (young or seasoned veterans) just dont seem to grasp the concept of clever Movement W/O the ball and creating sensible passing triangles and generally making themselves as an Easy Passing Target to the ball carrier..!!
        its even the same fking shitt with all the amature homies i play football with here... all of them just go hide themselves behind a bunch of defender and constantly yell "paass bede , toop bede"..!! aaakhe koskesh howdafuq you expect me to pass you the ball through 4-6 opponent players ? ke betooni mordekhori goal bezani .... do you even see any damn possible way for me to do that w/o maybe a hail mary bezan ziresh??
        hamashoon toopo mikhan to paashoon Ghabl az ke kooneshoono ye kam bejonbano eevar ovar bekeshan ke rah jolo vaaz konan..! ya bazi javoontarashoon ain khar sareshoono bendazan payeeno bedoan ke betoonan toopo advance forward konan..!

        we dont often produce many good box to box, heads up and well composed ball distributing MFdrs because een nasty habit of sag doeee ya bezan ziresh bara paaseh jolo to football culture ma gerefte..!!

        assan tiki taka football bazi kardan be nasle footballeh ma nayoftade.....hamash khodravi o sarpaeeni khardoi kardan ..!!

        sure... you see it on display on an occasional basis .... here n there but Not with near enough consistency or discipline to keep at it for the full 90 nor even half a freaking game....!!

        there are rare breeds that pop up in our football from time to time... like jabbari, ebrahimi, sammy, navidkia, neku etc .. but even most of those fail to really live up to their full potentials in TM or irani teams because they are often surrounded with gaav supporting cast who either dont open themselves for a pass or when they do they lack the composure and vision to quickly pass it to the next open player or just ball hog it and sarpayeeni run with it till they lose the ball..!!

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          #19
          Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
          i've said this many times but probably mostly because Most iranian footballers (young or seasoned veterans) just dont seem to grasp the concept of clever Movement W/O the ball and creating sensible passing triangles and generally making themselves as an Easy Passing Target to the ball carrier..!!
          its even the same fking shitt with all the amature homies i play football with here... all of them just go hide themselves behind a bunch of defender and constantly yell "paass bede , toop bede"..!! aaakhe koskesh howdafuq you expect me to pass you the ball through 4-6 opponent players ? ke betooni mordekhori goal bezani .... do you even see any damn possible way for me to do that w/o maybe a hail mary bezan ziresh??
          hamashoon toopo mikhan to paashoon Ghabl az ke kooneshoono ye kam bejonbano eevar ovar bekeshan ke rah jolo vaaz konan..! ya bazi javoontarashoon ain khar sareshoono bendazan payeeno bedoan ke betoonan toopo advance forward konan..!

          we dont often produce many good box to box, heads up and well composed ball distributing MFdrs because een nasty habit of sag doeee ya bezan ziresh bara paaseh jolo to football culture ma gerefte..!!

          assan tiki taka football bazi kardan be nasle footballeh ma nayoftade.....hamash khodravi o sarpaeeni khardoi kardan ..!!

          sure... you see it on display on an occasional basis .... here n there but Not with near enough consistency or discipline to keep at it for the full 90 nor even half a freaking game....!!

          there are rare breeds that pop up in our football from time to time... like jabbari, ebrahimi, sammy, navidkia, neku etc .. but even most of those fail to really live up to their full potentials in TM or irani teams because they are often surrounded with gaav supporting cast who either dont open themselves for a pass or when they do they lack the composure and vision to quickly pass it to the next open player or just ball hog it and sarpayeeni run with it till they lose the ball..!!
          😄 are u talking about the persians at the park wear the soccer jersey their belly stick out so much and they do stop sineh with their belly, never play d,
          always hang out at the opposing team goal and dead mizanan pas bedeh, or the persians atthe park got in fight with wife can't do nothing to her
          and dishes are waiting for him at home comes and just goes for everyone's leg to take their anger out,
          or the persians at park who cheat what score it is, if is 7-4 losing they score a goal and they say 7-6 and fight and argue until is 7-6, or the persian at the park bring the goals but if heget mad picks up his goals and treat to go home....

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            #20
            Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
            i've said this many times but probably mostly because Most iranian footballers (young or seasoned veterans) just dont seem to grasp the concept of clever Movement W/O the ball and creating sensible passing triangles and generally making themselves as an Easy Passing Target to the ball carrier..!!
            its even the same fking shitt with all the amature homies i play football with here... all of them just go hide themselves behind a bunch of defender and constantly yell "paass bede , toop bede"..!! aaakhe koskesh howdafuq you expect me to pass you the ball through 4-6 opponent players ? ke betooni mordekhori goal bezani .... do you even see any damn possible way for me to do that w/o maybe a hail mary bezan ziresh??
            hamashoon toopo mikhan to paashoon Ghabl az ke kooneshoono ye kam bejonbano eevar ovar bekeshan ke rah jolo vaaz konan..! ya bazi javoontarashoon ain khar sareshoono bendazan payeeno bedoan ke betoonan toopo advance forward konan..!

            we dont often produce many good box to box, heads up and well composed ball distributing MFdrs because een nasty habit of sag doeee ya bezan ziresh bara paaseh jolo to football culture ma gerefte..!!

            assan tiki taka football bazi kardan be nasle footballeh ma nayoftade.....hamash khodravi o sarpaeeni khardoi kardan ..!!

            sure... you see it on display on an occasional basis .... here n there but Not with near enough consistency or discipline to keep at it for the full 90 nor even half a freaking game....!!

            there are rare breeds that pop up in our football from time to time... like jabbari, ebrahimi, sammy, navidkia, neku etc .. but even most of those fail to really live up to their full potentials in TM or irani teams because they are often surrounded with gaav supporting cast who either dont open themselves for a pass or when they do they lack the composure and vision to quickly pass it to the next open player or just ball hog it and sarpayeeni run with it till they lose the ball..!!
            Loooooooool relatable af

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              #21
              In terms of box-to-box, peak Teymourian was the best one we have had over the last 2-3 decades.

              This position needs fitness, and most of our players don't have that.

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                #22
                Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
                In terms of box-to-box, peak Teymourian was the best one we have had over the last 2-3 decades.

                This position needs fitness, and most of our players don't have that.
                His playmaking for the most part was atrocious though. Defensively he was a bulldog. More gatusso than zidane.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
                  i've said this many times but probably mostly because Most iranian footballers (young or seasoned veterans) just dont seem to grasp the concept of clever Movement W/O the ball and creating sensible passing triangles and generally making themselves as an Easy Passing Target to the ball carrier..!!
                  its even the same fking shitt with all the amature homies i play football with here... all of them just go hide themselves behind a bunch of defender and constantly yell "paass bede , toop bede"..!! aaakhe koskesh howdafuq you expect me to pass you the ball through 4-6 opponent players ? ke betooni mordekhori goal bezani .... do you even see any damn possible way for me to do that w/o maybe a hail mary bezan ziresh??
                  hamashoon toopo mikhan to paashoon Ghabl az ke kooneshoono ye kam bejonbano eevar ovar bekeshan ke rah jolo vaaz konan..! ya bazi javoontarashoon ain khar sareshoono bendazan payeeno bedoan ke betoonan toopo advance forward konan..!

                  Ghorboonet you just described my Sundays for the last 16 years

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post

                    His playmaking for the most part was atrocious though. Defensively he was a bulldog. More gatusso than zidane.
                    true that... love Ando ... but often dude couldnt hit the wide side of the barn with his forward passes...!!
                    yet overall still a far more polished and classy CDM/CM than other hardworking MF destroyers like Amiri n such..!!
                    him and Neku complemented each other really well ..!!
                    perhaps my favorite TM captain of last couple decades..!! cool head in pivotal moments and leadership by setting an example.... Not one teammate could ever out-worked nor out-hustled him on the pitch ..!!
                    thought CQ did him dirty forcing him into TM retirement rather hastily and class-lessly w/o a hint appreciation for his prior service ..!

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