Possibly controversial but....

[AhuraMazda1]

Yep he always made some weird choices, which i just couldn't get my head round. Some random players invited. He could have been in the squad

I guess it is counterbalanced by things which literally everyone criticised and he tended to prove people wrong.

Eg going back to 2018 and see what people here were saying about him here re: picking Taremi, or blooding Majid Hosseini. Which for me counter-balanced picking Shojaei

Each tournament he has rolled the dice, making some crazy decisions but producing the next stars in a way which is easy to forget in retrospect.

Compare with GN (and our recent coach Skocic) who don't really push the boat out.

I agree CQ made some controversial decions that paid off. For example Sadeghi was one of our best players in the WC who he brought into the fold.

[milad_b]

Of course not. We wont win the AC even in the best conditions for us. But beating usa was do able

I didn't say winning the AC i said reaching Semi final which is very duable.


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Now if team melli players condemn this (which they will), and people go against them again, does that mean you give GN excuses for not advancing to semi finals?"

[DR Strangemoosh]

I agree CQ made some controversial decions that paid off. For example Sadeghi was one of our best players in the WC who he brought into the fold.

People were going crazy about that back line for 2014 but they were the stars of the tournament. Also remember what people were saying here about leaving Rahmati for Haghighi and then in 2018 bringing Beiranvand unexpectedly for a lot of people. All of these decisions were criticised but surely they came good in the end? For me it counterbalanced omitting Azmoun and possibly Khalatbari for 2014

Compare with the decade below when that fraud just refused to even give a minute to a young Rahmati and a pretty good Roudbarian let alone likes of Talebloo etc... in favour of possibly the most soorakh keeper who needed a defender to take his goal kicks. I mean wtaf? Even for pointless friendlies? In that key 2005 year Mirzapour played EVERY SINGLE GAME instead of testing a sub.

At least now we have given minutes to Abedzadeh and Niazmand who at 28 has a lot of time as a keeper to develop further.

Man it pisses me off just thinking about how much football development we lost and how this guy Queiroz, despite not being perfect, had to build a unit from absolute scraps...

[AhuraMazda1]

People were going crazy about that back line for 2014 but they were the stars of the tournament. Also remember what people were saying here about leaving Rahmati for Haghighi and then in 2018 bringing Beiranvand unexpectedly for a lot of people. All of these decisions were criticised but surely they came good in the end? For me it counterbalanced omitting Azmoun and possibly Khalatbari for 2014

Compare with the decade below when that fraud just refused to even give a minute to a young Rahmati and a pretty good Roudbarian let alone likes of Talebloo etc... in favour of possibly the most soorakh keeper who needed a defender to take his goal kicks. I mean wtaf? Even for pointless friendlies? In that key 2005 year Mirzapour played EVERY SINGLE GAME instead of testing a sub.

At least now we have given minutes to Abedzadeh and Niazmand who at 28 has a lot of time as a keeper to develop further.

Man it pisses me off just thinking about how much football development we lost and how this guy Queiroz, despite not being perfect, had to build a unit from absolute scraps...

I agree with you. Although perhaps another controversial opinion, Rahmati had one of the biggest transformations in Iranian football (bar Taremi). He went from being imo a poor gk to being Asia's octopus in several years.

[Nokhodi]

People were going crazy about that back line for 2014 but they were the stars of the tournament. Also remember what people were saying here about leaving Rahmati for Haghighi and then in 2018 bringing Beiranvand unexpectedly for a lot of people. All of these decisions were criticised but surely they came good in the end? For me it counterbalanced omitting Azmoun and possibly Khalatbari for 2014

Compare with the decade below when that fraud just refused to even give a minute to a young Rahmati and a pretty good Roudbarian let alone likes of Talebloo etc... in favour of possibly the most soorakh keeper who needed a defender to take his goal kicks. I mean wtaf? Even for pointless friendlies? In that key 2005 year Mirzapour played EVERY SINGLE GAME instead of testing a sub.

At least now we have given minutes to Abedzadeh and Niazmand who at 28 has a lot of time as a keeper to develop further.

Man it pisses me off just thinking about how much football development we lost and how this guy Queiroz, despite not being perfect, had to build a unit from absolute scraps...

rahmati got the start in the critical qualifier versus Qatar in Doha that we won 3-2. He wasn’t good.

however he was still better than mirzapour. Most league goalies were.

[Kavian]

Huh! These are water under the bridge conversations!

Truth is, we have always been a hustler in game of football. We have had sparks, here and there and occasional real good footballers, but never solid and consistent.

Prior to Islamic b.s. we were taking some right steps but that got destroyed liked anything else by mullahs.

[Hosseini]

If CQ took Jalal Hosseini to the Asian Cup in 2019 we would have won the tournament

[taremiscores]

Nikbakht-Vahedi was a dynamic player who could have made it big. He had that Fenerbahche deal fall through ...

What ifs ... Ali Karimi, only if he went to Atletico Madrid early on in his career ...

Also, it was tough for Mehrdad Oladi (the Iranian Wayne Rooney) and Xerez FC, was a big deal who fell through. Unfortunately, it didn't work but because his PGPL club wouldn't release him. Missing out on playing in La Liga must have been really heartbreaking ...

[persiangodfather]

I didn't say winning the AC i said reaching Semi final which is very duable.


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Now if team melli players condemn this (which they will), and people go against them again, does that mean you give GN excuses for not advancing to semi finals?"

Reaching semi finals of ac is meanignless

[inarsenewetrust]

In the "CQ Generation" Torabi was (and still is) 4th most talented Iranian player only behind Sardar, Mehdi, and Saeid. In that order.

Counting saman separately here as he joined a bit randomly later on

[DR Strangemoosh]

In the "CQ Generation" Torabi was (and still is) 4th most talented Iranian player only behind Sardar, Mehdi, and Saeid. In that order.

Counting saman separately here as he joined a bit randomly later on

What about Gholizadeh?

[inarsenewetrust]

What about Gholizadeh?

nope. Gholizadeh issue of physicality and lack of presence in defensive phase makes his ceiling much lower. It showed in why he could not progress beyond charleroi in EU, despite some good seasons. Also tendency to overplay. Despite that he is undoubtedly a fun player to watch and a good talent, his dribbling is exciting and he showed he can elevate his game in bursts (Qatar WC).

Torabi is complete package of dribbling, physicality, shooting, finishing, passing, high IQ plays, and defensive help to his fullback. He could even be an 8 in the vain of vahid amiri, but more explosive. Issue with Torabi is he is majorly goshad and couldnt live outside of his block in tehran for more than a week. He even got homesick in fkin Doha lol.

The fact he is a total idiot as well is less of an issue imo, that could be solved somewhat by spending time in right EU environment (see Taremi as example, also not the brightest but managed to go through huge personal transformation in mindset/general smarts since moving to portugal, in addition to his professional development)

[milad_b]

Of course not. We wont win the AC even in the best conditions for us. But beating usa was do able

We didn't need to beat them a draw was enough and CQ rid. A 0-0 draw was enough! USA was under more pressure than us. They needed to score and win and CQ messed that up.

But yea we can go ahead and blame it on the protests.

[Keshwardoost]

General should start Ghaedi and Azmoun upfront with Taremi slightly behind them, linking up with Ghoddos in midfield and cb Kaananis accurate forward passes.

THEN Taremi and lw Torabi can switch possessions at own will to add another side to our game.

TM offence wont be as easy to read and the combination of Ghaedi Taremi Azmoun aka G.T.A. will bring home the AC trophy.

[persiangodfather]

We didn't need to beat them a draw was enough and CQ rid. A 0-0 draw was enough! USA was under more pressure than us. They needed to score and win and CQ messed that up.

But yea we can go ahead and blame it on the protests.

My friend dont take my post the wrong way. Protests could happen any time but unfortunately we had protests which didnt lead to regime change ruin our world cup campaign. Once again we are the losers on both sides