Iran vs Qatar post game thread and players rating

[eerooni]

Beiro proved that he can’t have opponents shoot at him he’s a penalty and aerial ball saver.

[koko]

true... we certainly shoulda Manage the game better after pulling ahead early on... but just as in the Uzbek match..!
the 1 trick pony GN stuck it out with his overly direct and rushed-out, & ignorantly hasty (supposedly hoojoomi..! 👀 ) tactic and paid the price for it on gutterie's swift counters ..! :/

It's so sad. After the first goal, I thought we would win the match so comfortably But you're right, we had the match against Uzbekistan that I had completely forgotten about!

[Rezzy]

This team will stay attach
Which starter beside omid Ebrahimi and maybe shoja will officially retire?

age of tm players at the next wc

taremi 34
beiro 34
hajsafi 36
ghoddos 32
ramin 35
just some players that probably wont be starters bar taremi

[mahestan]

Every game that Sardar has scored within the first 10 minutes ends up being a mess. Remember the game against Turkmenistan during WCQ 2018? Or against Iraq during AC2015?

Interesting thing is that the game against Turkmenistan, Sardar scored on the 4' mark also....

[Scooter]

RAMIN, his whole career he has been TOO FAR forward, the one time he’s too far back he costs us with keeping that guy onside

BEIRANVAND so fucking shaky, horrible passes, did he make a save this game?

EBRAHIMI what a MISTAKE starting him, he gave up the ball so many times and slowed us down, and Ghoddos was invisible on the wing

HAJSAFI appeared to be playing with an injury, what a shame playing him instead of a rare in form Mohammadi.

TAREMI all those tears to show up with ZERO effort?! He did nothing todsy we were a man down with him on.
now onto the biggest problem, the coach! He got the starting line up wrong, made good subs to switch it, then absolutely blew it. All we did was take long crosses and NOT ONCE did it work. This was the game to play with interplay with Ghaedi or Gholizadeh why did he bring moghadloo and Asadi…
The few positives was that this was the best game I have ever seen form Jahanbaksh. He gave it his all and every single play started with him. I can’t believe his shot through the defenders legs went off the post and OUT. That was so fucking unlucky man. Azmoun was exceptional all tournament, and this game was no differnt. We are only here because of his assists and todays goal.
what a STUPID game to lose

Come on, while I agree with a lot of your statements, I also think you are making snap judgements based on one or two plays for a given player?

1) Ramin may have kept him on, but how in the hell were our center-backs that wide apart? You could have driven a truck through that hole! Qatari player literally (I mean LITERALLY) 1.5 seconds to decide what to do with the ball. That's how far away either CB was from him. That's an eternity, and sure goal for my grandmother (who is dead, btw), much less a Qatari national team player.

2) Beiro's distribution was poor. He did make some saves, and I don't see how anyone can blame him for any of their goals.

3) Uh.. go back and watch the second half. Ghoddos was tracking everywhere, including the wing. And if you see, he created chances for us from the left side late in the second half. He was great.

4) As for your piece on Taremi and GN? No arguments from me. I still can't believe GNs substitution late in the game. I am so upset he didn't put in Ghayedi for Taremi around the 70th minute.

[khabalood]

We sucked big and we know it. Let us know what you think?

That because the team threw the game like they always do at the semi-final stage. Regime team loses on purpose. You could see it today when they let The Qatari in all alone and our defender stuck his leg out to play him onside for the third goal. Then a purposeful red card to provide an excuse for the lose. All done on purpose. Pathetic display by a group of regime actor traitors. Once again they embarrassed Iran.

[tiesto]

I honestly think as a nation we have horrible emotional instability.

we are quick too abandon and call our team melli players names and cast upon them the utmost disrespect .:.

these guys PLAYED their hearts out. For anyone that watched the game it was obvious that there was massive emotions involved from minute 1

remember these are all 20-30 yr olds who play professionally but unfortunately with TM, we lack a sports psychologist. We lack that emotional IQ … the uplift …

I thought Qatar was very lucky. They had 2 lucky goals.

we had over 40 balls into their box. 12 corners vs 1, I mean, what did we didn’t do?

it was an unlucky day for us. Football is beautiful and you guys should quit being such whiners and quitters.

[Ostad_Goosfand]

That because the team threw the game like they always do at the semi-final stage. Regime team loses on purpose. You could see it today when they let The Qatari in all alone and our defender stuck his leg out to play him onside for the third goal. Then a purposeful red card to provide an excuse for the lose. All done on purpose. Pathetic display by a group of regime actor traitors. Once again they embarrassed Iran.

Kos nagoo

[oracle]

age of tm players at the next wc

taremi 34
beiro 34
hajsafi 36
ghoddos 32
ramin 35
just some players that probably wont be starters bar taremi

Unfortunately or fortunately
They all be there wc26

[Corey]

1. Retirements: Omid, Ehsan, Karim, Ramin, Shoja. We need to create space for new talents
2. TM is lacking quality in goal and defense. It is not smart to judge only by this game, but throughout whole ac we conceded way to easily. A lot of crappy goals. In open play, our cb and Saeid are helpless. Beiranvand needs to be subbed.
3. We desperately need another no 6. Saeid did quite ok when Omid got his back (not today) as he is no pure defensive 6. He is skilled in passing and shooting but clumsy in defense. Majid Hosseini can play there, but we might need him even more as cb.
4. We lack depth. Sadegh injury really really hurt us as Afif had his way with Ramin today. Baf coaching btw. Players without any solid backup like Sadegh, Ghoddos and Ezzat need to be rested if not absolutely necessary. We can loos wingers but not them.
5. Looking at the whole tournament, we did not perform according to our level. We struggled against Syria and conceded 3 against qatar. This is beyond bad luck. We need to fix our defensive problems.

[webmaster]

I just don't understand why Torabi consistently gets called up but never gets any playing time

He is a spy for the IR not a player I guess.

[Rezzy]

I honestly think as a nation we have horrible emotional instability.

we are quick too abandon and call our team melli players names and cast upon them the utmost disrespect .:.

these guys PLAYED their hearts out. For anyone that watched the game it was obvious that there was massive emotions involved from minute 1

remember these are all 20-30 yr olds who play professionally but unfortunately with TM, we lack a sports psychologist. We lack that emotional IQ … the uplift …

I thought Qatar was very lucky. They had 2 lucky goals.

we had over 40 balls into their box. 12 corners vs 1, I mean, what did we didn’t do?

it was an unlucky day for us. Football is beautiful and you guys should quit being such whiners and quitters.

Qatar were not lucky, they knew exactly how mentally fragile we are and used it for them with the time wasting and fouling. they soaked in the pressure and were clinical in front of goal. If this match happens again on qatar soil with their fans we would lose 7 games out of 10. this is not on ghalenoui its also something carlos couldnt cope with.

[khabalood]

4) As for your piece on Taremi and GN? No arguments from me. I still can't believe GNs substitution late in the game. I am so upset he didn't put in Ghayedi for Taremi around the 70th minute.

Ghayedi couldn't be trusted to throw the game. Taremi has a history of blowing sure goals, losing games for the regime. GN is a regime agent.

[Nokhodi]

Composure and consistency. We don't have that.

Let me put it it this way.

Qatar will play a similar level of football 4 times out 5. It may not be the best football, they may not have a player who can ever perform on a world elite level, but they know what they're comfortable with and what they can perform. They know their limits too and work to mitigate those. They don't surprise unless their opponent underperforms.

Iran on the other hand, has a very high capability. Iran is a team that as we're all very aware can put together a world class performance one game, and then lose any focus and completely s**t the bed the next game. That is what happened today.

Even with our players disappearing, wrong tactics, and elementary mistakes, we still were competitive. A TM that performed even at 50% capability today would have won. We didn't have that. Because Mitoma and Kubo were in our pockets last game, we think Afif can't do that.

So again, Lack of composure and consistency due to mental weakness.
Now I'm going to say something that is going to upset some here. Iran needs a new government. None of us here like the regime. Changing the regime and replacing it with a proper government (big ask, I know) would result in an improved economy, standard of life, personal freedoms,... but it won't change the football!

Why? Simply because our coping and problem solving skills (regardless of ideology) for most of us are way too hot and cold. Just look how we treat kids who make mistakes. Look how we sulk, or how we have the worst fights and then make up with gol o shirini the next day. That doesn't lead to people who can make good decisions under pressure consistently. It doesn't lead to stoicism in the face of adversity. It's a lot of hot air.
Even our players who have spent the vast majority of their careers in Europe can't really overcome these issues.


Until we fix that, we will have these failures at high pressure moments.

Good results in tough moments for us in football, as long as we're like this, will be nothing but exceptions to the rule.

GN: 5 - his starting line up was correct, however Qatar immediately changed their formation and GN didn't adjust. The tactics in the 2nd half (first 20 min) were absolutely correct. We then went to long ball football and that was wrong and rushed with so much time left.

Beiranvand - 4 - his positioning is off. I don't care about his distribution issues, that's part of the game when you build up, I can't stand that he is in the wrong place on weak shots so often.

Ramin - 5 - he was ok defensively but killed us on the offside, and his crosses were so poor. Unacceptable at this level. Would prefer he slowly be phased out thorugh qualifers.

Kanaani 5 - his legs are gone. He is too stationary and always backtracking when speedy players press.

Shoja - 7 - He was very good. Covering for Omid and Kanaani and others who were often out of position. Had no choice on the red.

Hajisaif - 5 - very poor. Wrong choice for a team that was going to run direct at him and use the wings. Another to be phased out through qualifiers.

Ebrahimi - 3 - Should not have been selected. Was very poor. Time to retire. Thank you Omid. Both goals were his fault.

Ezatollahi - 7 - had a couple of brain farts, but he was winning alot of balls, distributing well...

Saman - 5 - he was a 3 in the first half, and 7 in the 2nd half. So many chances wrecked in the first half because his touch disappeared.

Jahanbakhsh - 7.5. He was our MOTM. Composed. Would give him higher but his crosses were so bad. That shot that hit the post - that is the summary of Iranian football Still can help TM in the future.

Taremi - 3 - where were you man? So disappointing. However he should not have been subbed off. He has enough quality that one moment of brilliance would have gotten us an equalizer.

Azmoun - 6 - great goal, not serviced well.

Mohammadi - 7 - He was able to handle Afif better than his predecessor.
Mohebbi - 6.5 - wish he took his man on but he can't. At least he physically gave the Qataris a challenge.
Asadi/Moghanlou - no good. I get the plan was high balls, but these 2 were rendered useless because the quality of our crosses were so poor.


Look forward to the gradual rebuild. It is going to be a roller coaster probably. Be prepared for football similar to what we saw from 2008-2011.

TM broke our hearts again, but like an idiot, I'll continue to cheer for and support them.

[Afat11]

Qatar were not lucky, they knew exactly how mentally fragile we are and used it for them with the time wasting and fouling. they soaked in the pressure and were clinical in front of goal. If this match happens again on qatar soil with their fans we would lose 7 games out of 10. this is not on ghalenoui its also something carlos couldnt cope with.

When did Carlos deal with this? Didn't Carlos beat every Arab team we played under his tenure decisively outside of Iraq Pooladi bs in 2015?