Iran vs Qatar post game thread and players rating

[Pishi_Rules]

Can I just say, Jahanbakhsh for the last many years I have struggled to understand why he is so poor for Team Melli when he is an established European player.

but the last 2 games, when he has had that captains arm band on, he has been a beast and our best player.

JHB is a class act, I have always admired his professionalism and class, he’s a good representative of Iran. He’s always had a special place in my heart, more so today. Bless him

[Pishi_Rules]

Great to see more ladies on the forum btw

Last time we had this number of female members was in early 2000s

Thank you! And thank you all for providing a supportive, encouraging and entertaining community. I must admit I was a long time lurker of this forum, but after the events of the last WC decided to join as that tournament was too distressing for me, but I’ll never forget how helpful each and everyone of you were back then, and today was no different.

You have all raised excellent points today, thank you. it’s clear this loss has triggered all sorts of sadness from our past that was living inside us… and that’s a reason why our sports fan depression has hit us so hard. We must remember what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger, and how mental health is just as,
if not more important than physical health. I have been an emotional wreck all day, but even I acknowledge once I’ve come to terms with this, I need to focus on being more mentally tougher and not letting the Persian emotions take over. Being passionate is what I love about us all, but being erratic and weak, will never get us anywhere. Just remember, there's always a moment of growth and strength to be taken from each loss. Please try to find your own growth lesson and silver lining, it will help.

I love this forum so much, and love and health to you all. This too shall pass 💜❤️❤️🩹

[Pedram88]

Does anyone know why Jahanbakhsh took the penalty and not Taremi who is number 1 taker for the team..

because his mom and dad were at the game, same reason why he took the penalty against Japan. doaye madre

[Super Shojaei]

Crazy to think hussein al haydos may end up with two Asian cup winners medals but Ali Karimi, park ji sung, Mitoma , Kim min Jae, son heung min , hwang hee chan, Azmoun and taremi all have 0

[metallica69]

Another chance gone, probably the best chance with one of the better teams we’ve had for a long time.
for this game I blame poor player selection, omid and Ehsan staring was obvious mistake rectified early, When we did sub we brought in tall players to get header where we weren’t able to but it any ball that looked dangerous.
Ez was in fault for 2 goals and Shoja and birvand had the worst game they had for team meli.

This again is a result of emotional football. We started by complaining about the referee and again loss concentration because of it. 1st goal being the repeat of Japan game from 2019.

Another what if moment in our football history.

[Rooyintan]

TM needs lots of changes.

1. Ghalenoei's contract has been extended. However, I do feel that he needs to replace some of his current assistants. Alhoei and Manicone should go, instead bring two out of: Mansourian, Hashemian, Aghajanian, Marzban who worked with CQ, Wilmots, Krancar as assistant in Iran or Montenegro national teams.

2. Omid Ebrahimi announced that AC was his last tournament and Qatar was his last match. In my opinion, Haji Safi, Ansarifard, Amiri, Moghanlu, Asadi should retire or be dropped from TM.

3. Move the following players to bench or standby reserves: Khalilzadeh, Cheshmi, Ali Karimi

4. Bring new faces or less capped players: Sayyadmanesh, Jalali, Hazbavi, Barzegar, Salmani, Saeid Sadeghi, Yadegar Rostami, Kaveh Zahiroleslam, and some others from U23, U20 teams. Bring back Kaveh Rezaei, Ahmad Nourollahi.

5. Sayyadmanesh-Barzegar strike partnership should be tried. Azmoun, Taremi, Kaveh Rezaei as subs or super-subs

6. Ghayedi and Gholizadeh should be used more in starting 11.

7. Promote Niazmand to Number 1 keeper.

8. Moharrami should perhaps be starter for RB, and in addition to Rezaeian who seem to alternate due to various circumstances, I think Team Omid's Saman Touranian is worthy to be RB on bench.

[IRAN_TILL_I_DIE]

because his mom and dad were at the game, same reason why he took the penalty against Japan. doaye madre

Taremi was out against Japan hence he took it that game, wanted to know the reason for Qatar game..

[Rooyintan]

Taremi was out against Japan hence he took it that game, wanted to know the reason for Qatar game..

Jahanbakhsh being captain on the field, being calm and a leader. Other players might have panicked or felt stressed. Taremi had a very bad day.

[DR Strangemoosh]

There may well be something personal underlying both Taremi's performance and not taking the penalty despite being designated taker before Japan.

[Rooyintan]

There may well be something personal underlying both Taremi's performance and not taking the penalty despite being designated taker before Japan.

You could be right. This AC was perhaps Taremi's worst tournament.

[aariaa]

Jahanbakhsh being captain on the field, being calm and a leader. Other players might have panicked or felt stressed. Taremi had a very bad day.

I honestly don't understand why they were panicking. I try to see it from their POV. But they have played Qatar a billion times. They have had training camps in Qatar a billion times. Some players even spent years playing for Qatari clubs. They even played a fkn WC in Qatar just 1 year ago. How the f did the whole team mentally collapse against Qatar?

[Rooyintan]

I honestly don't understand why they were panicking. I try to see it from their POV. But they have played Qatar a billion times. They have had training camps in Qatar a billion times. Some players even spent years playing for Qatari clubs. They even played a fkn WC in Qatar just 1 year ago. How the f did the whole team mentally collapse against Qatar?

Yes, beats me.

I guess they felt the entire crowd apart from Iranian fans and TM bench are against them.

If they played with the calm and confident attitude they had versus Palestine and Japan, they would've played better and possibly would have won. It is shame Ghayedi was not in starting lineup, and Gholizadeh didn't play!!!
Niazmand is a very good keeper, he should have been used in some games. So sad that TM only had confidence in Beiranvand.

[ferdyf]

Taremi didn’t belong in the lineup. We played our best game without him. I don’t care what his name is or how many CL goal he has… WE PLAYED OUR BEST FOOTBALL WITHOUT HIM AND BEAT JAPAN!!! Ghalenoei riid big time with this decision.

I saw an interview where he said that he told the players before the red card that they will play better against Japan without him. And that's what happened and maybe we should have sticked to the tactics without him

[FootballeKhob]

TM needs lots of changes.

1. Ghalenoei's contract has been extended. However, I do feel that he needs to replace some of his current assistants. Alhoei and Manicone should go, instead bring two out of: Mansourian, Hashemian, Aghajanian, Marzban who worked with CQ, Wilmots, Krancar as assistant in Iran or Montenegro national teams.

2. Omid Ebrahimi announced that AC was his last tournament and Qatar was his last match. In my opinion, Haji Safi, Ansarifard, Amiri, Moghanlu, Asadi should retire or be dropped from TM.

3. Move the following players to bench or standby reserves: Khalilzadeh, Cheshmi, Ali Karimi

4. Bring new faces or less capped players: Sayyadmanesh, Jalali, Hazbavi, Barzegar, Salmani, Saeid Sadeghi, Yadegar Rostami, Kaveh Zahiroleslam, and some others from U23, U20 teams. Bring back Kaveh Rezaei, Ahmad Nourollahi.

5. Sayyadmanesh-Barzegar strike partnership should be tried. Azmoun, Taremi, Kaveh Rezaei as subs or super-subs

6. Ghayedi and Gholizadeh should be used more in starting 11.

7. Promote Niazmand to Number 1 keeper.

8. Moharrami should perhaps be starter for RB, and in addition to Rezaeian who seem to alternate due to various circumstances, I think Team Omid's Saman Touranian is worthy to be RB on bench.

Seriously? Mansourian? Hashemian?

And also barzegar? He is awful, barely playing. You have Saharkhizan and Azadi who are much better and play on the regular.

Saeid Sadeghi is also not good and not even young. Kaveh Rezaei is done aswell, cant even start over Asadi or Moghanlou. Nourollahi is the only one worth calling up but then again Aref Haji Eydi can do his job and is even better defensively and has great recovery speed something we saw team melli lacked yesterday.

Saman touranian? The guy that that cant defend and doesnt play for Esteghlal? You could have atleast said Jeddi, Ranjbar or Najarian. All of them starters. Touranian is just an awful version of Ramin. There are tons of young regulars in the league that should be called up.

I agree on Payam. He deserves to be the starter. Much more ba kelas and calmer on the ball. Alireza Jafarpour and Pourhamidi should also be invited

[aariaa]

Yes, beats me.

I guess they felt the entire crowd apart from Iranian fans and TM bench are against them.

If they played with the calm and confident attitude they had versus Palestine and Japan, they would've played better and possibly would have won. It is shame Ghayedi was not in starting lineup, and Gholizadeh didn't play!!!
Niazmand is a very good keeper, he should have been used in some games. So sad that TM only had confidence in Beiranvand.

Bro, it's not like the Qatari fans were aiming RPGs at them. They should be used to this by now. How many decades does it take for a player to become comfortable playing in a not perfect environment? Were they expecting the Qatari fans to cheer for them?