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    #46
    He's a yes man, as much as he pretends to show he isn't, which means we'll stroll to the tournament without investment unlike a legit foreign coach.

    Also. any coach that's happy to stick with those wasteful long throws should be fired.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Afat11 View Post

      Were you alive for when we were losing games to Bahrain the same as today?
      I was only a kid, but I was alive and have been following TM since 98. But I mostly remember the Branko era. Our gameplan with GN is an exact carbon copy of Brankos playbook. Lob the ball and hope to score a header. It was the same under Ghotbi and same under Skokic.

      Only two things have changed:

      1. No more glorious moustaches.
      2. Asia has progressed to 2024 while we are still living in the late 90s to early 2000s.

      So we ourselves have basically changed only in one area, and that is facial hair.

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        #48
        Originally posted by persiangodfather View Post
        its not his fault we had alot of injuries, Ill keep him under the condition he focuses on defence more.
        well, injuries typically follow age
        “It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

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          #49
          General did what he suppose to do.
          his plan was go toe to toe with every team,create goal scoring opportunity and outscore opponents.
          today he created enough to win.but when medi misses from inside 6 and ball hit the post and many more what can u do.
          Today FOOTBALL S B OWED ITS NAMARDI SIDE
          AND BETTER TEAM DIDNT WIN. General earned to keep his post until wc26.
          Tm can never go all young , will never average age be u 28.5 that's not who tm is because even bad result in friendly will get hc fired.

          I personally proud of this team and hc .

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            #50
            GN changing things at half time is a sign of a good coach. A lot of managers would have played it out for another 10/15mins and then change.
            but he saw that his team were being dominated from minute 5 till 45 and made changes.
            not only that, the changes worked and we deserved to win, had 2 of our chances gone in and Qatar didn’t get a lucky goal we would all be saying GN with a tactical masterclass.

            the second half is the managers half, yes it was 1-1 but it should have been 3-0 if we weren’t so unlucky …

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              #51
              Originally posted by IRAN_TILL_I_DIE View Post
              GN changing things at half time is a sign of a good coach. A lot of managers would have played it out for another 10/15mins and then change.
              but he saw that his team were being dominated from minute 5 till 45 and made changes.
              not only that, the changes worked and we deserved to win, had 2 of our chances gone in and Qatar didn’t get a lucky goal we would all be saying GN with a tactical masterclass.

              the second half is the managers half, yes it was 1-1 but it should have been 3-0 if we weren’t so unlucky …
              This...not much Sardar and ARJ could do to carry Taremi much more lol, bro was playing like he wanted to go home for a vacation to shomal

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                #52
                Sad to see how you people make a god outta him after winning against Japan and then consider him shit after a loss. However. I like his attacking style even though I don’t like his personality and religious jargon. In his whole entire professional life, he only has one loss on national coaching!!!! I just wonder what we are honestly. One day, ya marg ya mosadegh next day marg bar mosadegh. This nation is hopeless. This freaking government and this cancel culture. It’s jus sad. A sad situation
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by oracle View Post
                  General did what he suppose to do.
                  his plan was go toe to toe with every team,create goal scoring opportunity and outscore opponents.
                  today he created enough to win.but when medi misses from inside 6 and ball hit the post and many more what can u do.
                  Today FOOTBALL S B OWED ITS NAMARDI SIDE
                  AND BETTER TEAM DIDNT WIN. General earned to keep his post until wc26.
                  Tm can never go all young , will never average age be u 28.5 that's not who tm is because even bad result in friendly will get hc fired.

                  I personally proud of this team and hc .
                  vs Hong Kong struggle to win 1-0
                  vs UAE , not a good performance 2-1
                  vs Syria , could have almost lost 5-3 penalties
                  Vs Japan , only game we played good
                  vs Qatar , played like shit again

                  how is this a successful tournament, we struggled in ever single , we conceded from every team we played against except Hong Kong ,

                  GN made horrible substitutions

                  Usually when the better team doesn’t win it is the coaches fault 100%

                  can you see this team with this group of players getting faster , stronger, more energetic, more technical in the next 2 years or worse off ??

                  When you speak general earned to keep his post until the WC 2026 , we aren’t getting better with GN , we will be even worse of then, then we are now , in 2 years time , if we keep general and these players, we will
                  lose all 3 games at the World Cup , if we make it to the World Cup ????!!!

                  so what is your opinion about how this team will perform with GN at the WC 2026???

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                    #54
                    Another point, the likes of haji Safi should be the bigger man and RETIRE and not say “I’m here until the team needs me” . In this case he will be picked until he is 40 years old and has 250 caps!
                    in less than 2 month we have 2 games back to back against Turkmenistan.
                    our next squad should be the squad we are looking to take to the WC in 2 years.
                    we don’t need haji safi at left back or Karim coming in for the final 10mins.
                    I don’t follow IPL unfortunately but bring in our best left and right back (until moharami is back) from the league.
                    sayyadmanesh would terrorise any Asian right back, stick him on our left wing.

                    we have a strong core, we can keep the likes of majid, ezatolahi, ghoddos, azmoun, jahanbaksh, moharami. These are all experienced players who play in Europe . Stick some youngsters next to them for the next 2 years and take this team to the next World Cup !

                    shoja bye
                    karim bye
                    cheshmi bye
                    haji safi bye
                    Ramin bye

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by a_m View Post

                      vs Hong Kong struggle to win 1-0
                      vs UAE , not a good performance 2-1
                      vs Syria , could have almost lost 5-3 penalties
                      Vs Japan , only game we played good
                      vs Qatar , played like shit again

                      how is this a successful tournament, we struggled in ever single , we conceded from every team we played against except Hong Kong ,

                      GN made horrible substitutions

                      Usually when the better team doesn’t win it is the coaches fault 100%

                      can you see this team with this group of players getting faster , stronger, more energetic, more technical in the next 2 years or worse off ??

                      When you speak general earned to keep his post until the WC 2026 , we aren’t getting better with GN , we will be even worse of then, then we are now , in 2 years time , if we keep general and these players, we will
                      lose all 3 games at the World Cup , if we make it to the World Cup ????!!!

                      so what is your opinion about how this team will perform with GN at the WC 2026???
                      1 win
                      1 lose
                      1 tie
                      is what's expected
                      To make r32
                      ..
                      We won't go as young as people think, persian players mature late...

                      tm should add stronger coaching staff

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by oracle View Post

                        1 win
                        1 lose
                        1 tie
                        is what's expected
                        To make r32
                        ..
                        We won't go as young as people think, persian players mature late...

                        tm should add stronger coaching staff
                        Your demeanor makes me feel like you are one of those ppl that thinks that aiming for the lowest possible result just to get by will be enough, I mean theoretically yes 1 win 1 lose 1 tie will get us through as the best 3rd place finisher where you possibly have to play against a Brazil or France in the round of 32 ?!?

                        if you aim low you don’t even make it, most times , we have to raise the aim a little bit higher if you ask me

                        What you are saying about Iranian maturing late isn’t factual , did you look at the under17 team at the World Cup in Indonesia, they seemed mature enough as 16 years olds , the ideal age for any athlete is 22 to 27 the average age of Team Melli today was 32 , in 2 years time this TM will have an average age of 34 ?!?!?

                        what you are saying will just leads us to a disastrous showing at the WC 2026….

                        it don’t matter who we add to the coaching staff , this team is doomed from all the way from the top to lose….

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by a_m View Post

                          Your demeanor makes me feel like you are one of those ppl that thinks that aiming for the lowest possible result just to get by will be enough, I mean theoretically yes 1 win 1 lose 1 tie will get us through as the best 3rd place finisher where you possibly have to play against a Brazil or France in the round of 32 ?!?

                          if you aim low you don’t even make it, most times , we have to raise the aim a little bit higher if you ask me

                          What you are saying about Iranian maturing late isn’t factual , did you look at the under17 team at the World Cup in Indonesia, they seemed mature enough as 16 years olds , the ideal age for any athlete is 22 to 27 the average age of Team Melli today was 32 , in 2 years time this TM will have an average age of 34 ?!?!?

                          what you are saying will just leads us to a disastrous showing at the WC 2026….

                          it don’t matter who we add to the coaching staff , this team is doomed from all the way from the top to lose….
                          Other nations spend and invest more money on soccer...I am being realistic because I know our football system.making r32 is a accomplishment
                          for how much is invested in football.going pass that is a miracle.

                          There will be change of players but not as young as people think...we don't have the young talent which is better than majority of starters on the field today that can push majority of current players out and start in 26wc.
                          BEST 11 SHOULD PLAY regardless of age.
                          I think tm average will drop to 29 when wc arrives.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by oracle View Post



                            There will be change of players but not as young as people think...we don't have the young talent which is better than majority of starters on the field today that can push majority of current players out and start in 26wc.
                            .
                            Since GN took over we have played 11 friendly games and 2 official WCQ games ;

                            how many minutes did we even test this younger players ,;

                            to know if they are good enough or not Hajsafi has had 142 caps already he doesn’t need anymore experience

                            Name (age)
                            Hazbavi(20)
                            javas hosseinejad(20)
                            aria yousefi(20)
                            Saman Fallah(22)
                            Mohammed Ghorbani(22)
                            sabet Imani(23),
                            Mohammedhossein eslmai(22)
                            Saeid Saharkhizan​(20)
                            Dennis Eckert (27)

                            I think hosseinjad only player that played like 2 minutes at the end of the Hong king game;


                            My question to you is how can we ever know if they good enough or not if we don’t test them in these friendly games ; for example the games against Afghanistan or krygzystan let all these young players play see where they really stand ???

                            every young player needs to start somewhere, they need a chance to show themselves…

                            Why we need Taremi(81 caps) or Sardar(80 caps) or kanani(39 caps) or khalizadeh (51 caps) or Karim ansarifard( 108 caps) or Jahanbakash(82 caps) to play in these meaningless games ????



                            vs Russia
                            Vs kenya
                            vs Afghanistan
                            vs krygzystan
                            vs Uzbekistan
                            vs Bulgaria
                            vs Angola
                            vs Jordan
                            vs Qatar
                            Vs Burkino faso
                            Vs Indonesia

                            WCQ
                            Vs hong kong
                            vs Uzbekistan


                            These are issues that a coach like GN can’t see , and doesn’t understand well enough ; the intricacies and delicacies of modern day coaching , the incorporation and deletion…to have the balls and take risks, will give you the biggest rewards in the end , if we risk on the side of youth , it be a win win , risk on the side of mature players will just be a win or a lose … nothing is gained .

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by oracle View Post
                              General did what he suppose to do.
                              his plan was go toe to toe with every team,create goal scoring opportunity and outscore opponents.
                              today he created enough to win.but when medi misses from inside 6 and ball hit the post and many more what can u do.
                              Today FOOTBALL S B OWED ITS NAMARDI SIDE
                              AND BETTER TEAM DIDNT WIN. General earned to keep his post until wc26.
                              Tm can never go all young , will never average age be u 28.5 that's not who tm is because even bad result in friendly will get hc fired.

                              I personally proud of this team and hc .
                              Team was not focused on the match. Everyone looked scattered, nervous, not calm, long ball bekesh ziresh maybe 20 times in the last half of the game. It was hard to watch.

                              You could tell for some reason the team was not mentally in the game.
                              Last edited by Hosseini; 02-08-2024, 02:42 AM.

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                                #60
                                I was never big fan of GN, and still think there are at minimum 3 other managers (Yahya, Rabei, and Nekonam if you ignore his shitty personality) in Iran who are tactically better...

                                With that said, he did a good job this tourney, we played with a plan this tournament, and deserves to keep his job until the world cup. His record is very impressive with team melli (this was our first loss under him) and even though we lost against Qatar, his 2nd half adjustments were the correct ones. We lost this game on the margin.
                                We have two WCQ matches coming up next month and need at minimum 5 new players introduced to the roster.

                                Things that need improving if we keep him:
                                - Better coaching staff... like legit, wtf is Ando doing on the bench? how is your first coaching gig a national team job?
                                - He needs to delegate press conferences to someone else
                                - Hajsafi, Karim, Ramin, Shoja, Rouzbeh need phasing out.

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