How good could we be if....?

[Nokhodi]

as soon as revolution happened our 10 year invincible players ended up being bossed by Kuwait.

It's not rocket science to suggest that if this 45 year prison falls we will be back to the best in Asia. Maybe not instantly, but within a few years

1980 is a cruel example.
Iraqis attacked Iran in the middle of the tournament. Kuwaiti TV was airing non-stop Iraqi propaganda. There was barely any news. The day before the Kuwait game they tell Hassan Roshan his brother has been killed in the war.

When I read and hear those accounts, it reminds me again to say f*** you to each and every AFC country, particularly West Asia.

[Nokhodi]

If we had a proper government, the major difference would be that the markets would be available to us.
Marketing, infrastructure, tv rights.... basically money would flood in. Even more than now.

Some of our cultural traits would still be apparent (corruption, favoritism, short term planning), but the opportunities to pivot and adjust would be more plentiful and frutiful.

[webmaster]

One day when PFDC and I are not around people will perhaps see this. The day will come soon as I'm getting sick of our people.

We are always too late because it is popular to be ignorant nowadays and attack those who are bringing valuable information to the surface.

My posts that make people laugh get more likes than those which makes them cry. Isn't this amazing?? Yes it is. In a country that nobody likes to talk about our own people getting executed for talking and we ignore it will not have any future. We are cursed because of this.

So hear this we just care to be entertained by someone but will never stand up for people who want to wake us up.so laugh on and enjoy to ridicule people who know and enjoy being in darkness. Who cares if you guys don't care. So sleep well.

All of the sudden the Arabs became fair. I don't know if I should cry or laugh at this.

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[perspolis#1]

One day when PFDC and I are not around people will perhaps see this. The day will come soon as I'm getting sick of our people.

We are always too late because it is popular to be ignorant nowadays and attack those who are bringing valuable information to the surface.

My posts that make people laugh get more likes than those which makes them cry. Isn't this amazing?? Yes it is. In a country that nobody likes to talk about our own people getting executed for talking and we ignore it will not have any future. We are cursed because of this.

So hear this we just care to be entertained by someone but will never stand up for people who want to wake us up.so laugh on and enjoy to ridicule people who know and enjoy being in darkness. Who cares if you guys don't care. So sleep well.

All of the sudden the Arabs became fair. I don't know if I should cry or laugh at this.

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I agree with you that the only ones who will care for us are ourselves. Unfortunately self- criticism and self improvement is not a habit in our culture like in others that have accountability for failures.

We default to excuses.

Our relations with Arabs are strained and I'm in the camp that we need to be tougher, not kinder to them. Especially in football matters.

Make them freeze in Tabriz for games not Azadi.

Play to Win 5-0 not take the gas off after one or two.

Many Iranians have a soft spot for them for religious purposes which is misguided.

Iranians need to be bolder, speak up, and "hagheshoono begiran"


"God helps those who help themselves".

[Artaxerxes]

I agree with you that the only ones who will care for us are ourselves. Unfortunately self- criticism and self improvement is not a habit in our culture like in others that have accountability for failures.

We default to excuses.

Our relations with Arabs are strained and I'm in the camp that we need to be tougher, not kinder to them. Especially in football matters.

Make them freeze in Tabriz for games not Azadi.

Play to Win 5-0 not take the gas off after one or two.

Many Iranians have a soft spot for them for religious purposes which is misguided.

Iranians need to be bolder, speak up, and "hagheshoono begiran"


"God helps those who help themselves".

We lost our national identity because of I.R meymoons and thank god the new young generation is taking it back, arabs have nothing but bring Iran badbakhti, we will be liberated and go back to our roots via ONE thing and thats it to be united as IRANIANS no matter etnicity.

My heart breaks everyday because of the vast potential Iran has that is getting flushed to chin va russie and ruined because of these "let this land burn as long as islam prevails " donkeys

Belive this, if we dont take our country back NOW Iran is doomed to be torn apart because of these mullahs, they will destroy all of Iran before they leave.

[webmaster]

^ they have already destroyed it. Look at our people, they rather enjoy life while many lives are taken away. Anywhere else is like that? no. We are a unique kinda people who could have stopped all this but stayed home rather. You tell me out of 20 millions in Tehran if we cant get 1 million to come out and finally take these parasites out, they rather sit home and check their Instagram and post all this bs like everything in Iran is normal.

With this people, we can't have a country PERIOD. what do you expect of the regime when we ourselves don't care??? They will continue to kill because we will not protest in masses. As soon as someone does protest, we all look the other away. This is a shame indeed.Az maast keh bar maast.

Anyone who does anything for Iran has already stopped. Look at all other TV's and including manoto. They all are closed or soon to be closing. Our people are a joke they are the most ignorant people of all time. They are just here when your ok, as soon as you have problems they all go away and leave you when you need them. I am sure this goes with this website too. Hence I am not going to do much either people get tired and so am I. Because do our people deserve it?? no they don't.

[Super Shojaei]

South Korea invests so much and has a good team and what have they got out of it? Their last continental victory was even longer ago than ours. I would look at the whole thing on several levels:

1) Asia's football has developed rapidly, since the era in which we won, many teams have joined, after us came Saudi Arabia, Japan (80s-90s). From the 2000s onwards, teams like Iraq and Uzbekistan became noticeable, and since Australia entered the scene, the old superpowers Iran and South Korea have been joined by a considerable number of competitors. In recent years the trend has become even more noticeable, more and more teams in Asia are becoming more serious, nobody would underestimate teams like Vietnam, Thailand, Tajikistan, Jordan, Oman, Qatar anymore, all these teams can put pressure on the top teams on a good day. It's just unusual what expectations people have of Iran. In Europe, there are also Italy, the Netherlands, France, Germany, England, optionally Belgium, Portugal, etc., but no one would say that because these teams all have what it takes to win the Cup, they have to win it every time. Even in Asia, since the density of good teams has increased, let's say from 2007 onwards, which big teams have really won the Cup?

2007: Iraq
2011: Japan
2015: Australia
2019: Qatar
2024: Qatar/Jordan

Apart from Australia playing at home, none of the top teams have won this cup since 2011.

Saudi Arabia hasn't won the cup since 1996, South Korea since 1960, and we haven't won it since 1976. Even Japan, whose victory doesn't sound that far away, will have won it 17 years ago in 2028 when the next AC takes place. A top team like the Netherlands hasn't won the Cup since 1988, and England has never won it. We have to stop being so arrogant and thinking that we are predestined to become Asian champions every time.

2) Even if we had top education and high investment, like Japan, Iran would only be partially successful. Germany, a country that invests an enormous amount in its football, is not a serial champion in all competitions, on the contrary, since 2018 German football has been in a desolate state despite a top infrastructure.

3) If you take all points into account, Iran fails on other important points, namely we suffer from the same problem as Japan and South Korea, we become cocky because we think our players play in Europe and the rest of the Asian teams can't play football. But football is much more than just the quality of individual players, focussing on our legionnaires is what makes our team so predictable (same issue SK & Japan) have. We give the legionnaires an enormous focus on participation and undermine our coach in the process, like seen with Skocic.
On the other hand, our players like a coach like Ghalenoei who does everything they tell him to do. What Iran is missing is a proper, good system; the players, regardless of whether they are Prime Ronaldinho or not, have to submit to this system without being asked. We need coaches with expertise, and this doesn't exist in Iran, so we have to rely on help from abroad. Ironically, with a younger group that doesn't have any special stars, we wouldn't have actually done worse. Then there is a big mentality problem, we don't deal well with pressure as a collective, this team has one thing that unfortunately characterizes them negatively, they always fail in the critical moments:

2014: Argentina, 2018: Portugal, 2019: Japan, 2023: USA, 2024: Qatar

In short, whenever it becomes relevant, the team breaks down mentally and this is the main point of the work that we have to focus on; this requires quality in the position of the coaching team.

It’s interesting to note that two big premier league stars in Son Heung Min and Hwang Hee chan basically did next to nothing this whole tournament bar Son’s free kick v Australia . Mitoma was also nowhere to be seen, Minamino was non existent in the knock out stages too.

and let’s not forget our star man taremi got sent off in the r of 16 and was the worst player on the pitch in the last 4

Hassan Al Hyaddos and Akram Afif arguably had more word class moments this competition than Hwang Hee Chan, Taremi, Lee Kang in , Mitoma and Azmoun in this tournament . Pretty disappointing for what are meant to be Asia to be asias elite and simply more European players doesn’t entitle you to anything in this competition you need squad cohesion. Kim min Jae is one of Europe’s best defender and he was still part of a defence that shipped 3 goals to Malaysia . Tomiyasu is a world class defender for Arsenal but in japan’s back 4 he doesn’t function with his centre back partner Itakura and they were unable to contain mohebi . Team cohesion , coaching and a disciplined attitude towards the opposition count for so much more than people give credit for . The solution is not always “more players in Europe”

[Artaxerxes]

^ they have already destroyed it. Look at our people, they rather enjoy life while many lives are taken away. Anywhere else is like that? no. We are a unique kinda people who could have stopped all this but stayed home rather. You tell me out of 20 millions in Tehran if we cant get 1 million to come out and finally take these parasites out, they rather sit home and check their Instagram and post all this bs like everything in Iran is normal.

With this people, we can't have a country PERIOD. what do you expect of the regime when we ourselves don't care??? They will continue to kill because we will not protest in masses. As soon as someone does protest, we all look the other away. This is a shame indeed.Az maast keh bar maast.

Anyone who does anything for Iran has already stopped. Look at all other TV's and including manoto. Our people are a joke. They are just here when your ok, as soon as you have problems they all go away. I am sure this goes with this website. Hence I am not going to do much either people get tired and so am I. Because does our people deserve it?? no they don't.

Spot on, sad but true....

[Dubxl152]

If politics is what keep us from being a top footballi nation, what explains no iranian born and grown up in the US, Germany, Australia, Sweden, Holland, etc.. Reached the level of the best players of the world, even let's say prime Taremi or Daei ?
It seems we have tons of players with Iranian roots in academies of sweden and Germany. Even if they end choosing another NT, I have never seen a top player coming from there

Iranian kids outside of Iran are pushed to be Dr, Engineer etc. The parents aren't putting them in soccer academies to be the best footballer because to them they already made it out. Its more likely that they can push their kids to study and become a lawyer, Dr, Engineer and by the time they learn the kid dars khoon nist and no matter how much you push they don't have the capacity to be a Lawyer, Dr, Engineer it too late for them to enter the academy... they end being kaseb (not that there is anything wrong with that)

Our parenting culture doesn't believe in do what you love and chase your dreams. Its based on bezan to saresh until he gets in line.

All these issues can be fixed with grass roots systems in Iran teaching kids the basics. More Kia Academies etc.

[PSGman#19]

The squad with euro legionnaires were suddenly taken out of their euro leagues to join their NT while qatar nt was preparing together 2 weeks before

[Ardalan]

I agree with you that the only ones who will care for us are ourselves. Unfortunately self- criticism and self improvement is not a habit in our culture like in others that have accountability for failures.

We default to excuses.

Our relations with Arabs are strained and I'm in the camp that we need to be tougher, not kinder to them. Especially in football matters.

Make them freeze in Tabriz for games not Azadi.

Play to Win 5-0 not take the gas off after one or two.

Many Iranians have a soft spot for them for religious purposes which is misguided.

Iranians need to be bolder, speak up, and "hagheshoono begiran"


"God helps those who help themselves".

Vaghti ketaabe Gharb-Zadegi dar 1962 chaap shod Jalal Ale Ahmad masalan mikhast zedde imperialist baashe va badbakhtie maa raa tannha be gharb nesbat kone.
Amma harchand ke gharb dasti dar in badbakhti daashte, ARAB -ZADEGIE farhange irani ma raa
az nazare ideologiki yek mellate ma'loool karde. Va az nazare farhangi ham
kafie arabzadegie zabane farsi raa bebinim ta befahmim che ghadr in padideh maa raa aghab-oftadeh kardeh.
Ridim, ridim va ridim. Yek sarataani be naame dolate eslaami avordim.

[perspolis#1]

The squad with euro legionnaires were suddenly taken out of their euro leagues to join their NT while qatar nt was preparing together 2 weeks before

Its not a single issue problem.

That also works

If you remember before World cup 2018 we had a big camp for a month and we came out playing like a drilled defensive club team like Atletico or Mourinho's Chelsea against Morocco and Spain.

[PEJ]

Our parenting culture doesn't believe in do what you love and chase your dreams. It’sbased on bezan to saresh until he gets in line.

You hit the nail on its head. It’s never about what the kid wants, it what the Iranian parent wants his kid to be.

“Follow your dreams” said no Iranian parent ever.

[Pluto2000]

It's just...I don't know what to think anymore to be honest.

I used to be of the belief that if we wanted to escape the curse of the Iranian emotional mindset, we had to send our players abroad to Europe. They would gain experience in emotional tournaments, get high quality coaching, and work with European sports psychologists at club level. We sent Taremi, Azmoun, ARJ, Eza, Beiranvand, Ramin, Haj Safi, Milad, Ansarifard, Gholizadeh, etc and countless other players to Europe. We gave some of these players three World Cups and two Asian cups of experience, hoping that they would retain that experience and use it for the next tournament.

And yet...we still make the same mental mistakes. Taremi does his little emotional outbursts, they underestimate all of these teams we play like Syria and HK, they make unprofessional comments, they create drama around each other, and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm missing.

All of this "experience" means nothing in this generation of Team Melli.


I will end it here and give credit where credit is due because three players that are always professional are Ezatolahi, ARJ, and Moharrami. Ezatolahi specifically always keeps his head down and tries his best for us, even in times of trouble like his best friend dying to IR goons like during the 2022 WC. He consistently puts in shifts for us and even at his worse he is still one of our best players. This tournament he played every single match with minimal rest and tried his damn best every single match. I wish we had 11 players with his mindset.

[koorosh]

You hit the nail on its head. It's never about what the kid wants, it what the Iranian parent wants his kid to be.

“Follow your dreams” said no Iranian parent ever.

I'm an Iranian parent...I would say "follow your dream" if my kids are dreaming of medical school! :-) :-)

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