Should we have a TM B team again?

[AhuraMazda1]

Dorood mashtiha va banoohaye aziz,

Ardeshir Ghalenoi created a Team Melli B team when he was first TM manager. Should he do it again?

Ba sepas!

[Keano]

The issue is that we can't even arrange friendly games for our Team Melli A, let alone Team B. I think we should have a real young team and call it team B


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[AhuraMazda1]

The issue is that we can't even arrange friendly games for our Team Melli A, let alone Team B. I think we should have a real young team and call it team B


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My thought process is the B team can play friendlies with tier 2 and 3 level countries as well as play against our A team and club teams. Those who impress can then be promoted to our A team.

Honestly speaking, I don't want to have "do hezari" players play for our A team. Remember Omid Nazari and Danial Davari? I want players like these to first enter our B team and be tested.

I'm sorry, but the red flags of having a player that played for Yale a few months ago get invited to our A team doesnt look right from an optics level or from a prestige level.

[Nokhodi]

The issue is that we can't even arrange friendly games for our Team Melli A, let alone Team B. I think we should have a real young team and call it team B


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These are my exact thoughts too.

Big money is trying to destroy international football. B Teams used to be a common thing, now it's pretty much over with.

[oracle]

These are my exact thoughts too.

Big money is trying to destroy international football. B Teams used to be a common thing, now it's pretty much over with.

Tm omid needs to be active every fifa day.
tm omid should be tm B.
Clubs don't want give up tm b players come back injured

[PEJ]

My thought process is the B team can play friendlies with tier 2 and 3 level countries as well as play against our A team and club teams. Those who impress can then be promoted to our A team.

Honestly speaking, I don't want to have "do hezari" players play for our A team. Remember Omid Nazari and Danial Davari? I want players like these to first enter our B team and be tested.

I'm sorry, but the red flags of having a player that played for Yale a few months ago get invited to our A team doesnt look right from an optics level or from a prestige level.

While I agree with your general sentiment, you can’t really compare. I know we have a small sample size, but Kaceh is doing very well in the Belgian league. You can’t risk him getting capped by US, and thus losing that potential. Let’s be honest, we don’t have a long list of young forwards knocking at the TM door.

[Ghermez Agha]

I'm sorry, but the red flags of having a player that played for Yale a few months ago get invited to our A team doesnt look right from an optics level or from a prestige level.

baradare Aziz….your logic here is completely flawed. Where a player was playing last year is not more important than where he is at now…..which is a higher level than Iranian league/asian standard and is performing VERY well. Losing out on a guy to USA who has all the potential to be a key player for TM in the near future bc of optics bc of where he came from would be very illogical

[Pluto2000]

My thought process is the B team can play friendlies with tier 2 and 3 level countries as well as play against our A team and club teams. Those who impress can then be promoted to our A team.

Honestly speaking, I don't want to have "do hezari" players play for our A team. Remember Omid Nazari and Danial Davari? I want players like these to first enter our B team and be tested.

I'm sorry, but the red flags of having a player that played for Yale a few months ago get invited to our A team doesnt look right from an optics level or from a prestige level.

It's based on performance...he's had almost more goals in his few games in Belgium against top teams than any of our forwards. Sardar has had 1 goal last half a season. Taremi like 5 goals in league.

Also he's only 21 and has the option of playing for USMNT if he keeps performing....if we don't cap him soon.

Certainly more deserving than Moghanlou, Asadi, and other players who are near 30 and useless to TM

[AhuraMazda1]

While I agree with your general sentiment, you can’t really compare. I know we have a small sample size, but Kaceh is doing very well in the Belgian league. You can’t risk him getting capped by US, and thus losing that potential. Let’s be honest, we don’t have a long list of young forwards knocking at the TM door.

I agree. That's why I think he should be invited to the B team like Shapourzadeh was back in the day by Ghalenoi

[AhuraMazda1]

baradare Aziz….your logic here is completely flawed. Where a player was playing last year is not more important than where he is at now…..which is a higher level than Iranian league/asian standard and is performing VERY well. Losing out on a guy to USA who has all the potential to be a key player for TM in the near future bc of optics bc of where he came from would be very illogical

That's why I'm saying invite him and others like him to TM B

[webmaster]

A, B or C nadareh... this Iran will never achieve anything in anything and this is not only in sport. We are just a lost nation so don't try to brag about how good we could be, because you are only wasting your time.

We brag about being Persians but recently I am convinced that we are ZERsians. Yani Hamesh faghat zer mizanim.

[AmirSalar]

I think we create a B team to play against our “A” team so there’s an opportunity for the younger players to embarrass and keep the fixed players on team A on their toes and to weed out our players that are obviously not good enough to play for TM anymore.

[The]

Tm omid needs to be active every fifa day.
tm omid should be tm B.
Clubs don't want give up tm b players come back injured

This is the correct solution. Basically team Omid + three senior players should be our b Team.

I think this is when a things like WAFF and CAFA come handy. If we signs some agreements to take turn hosting different youth or B teams from central and West Asia, we can guarantee playing time for them.

[Rooyintan]

I had the same thought during the past several years. I thought it would be good to have such a team that could test players in matches against lower ranked FIFA teams, For Example countries that have diplomatic relations with Iran such as Ethiopia, Tanzania, Niger, Sierra Leone, Mozambique, Madagascar, Kenya, Namibia, Cuba, Nicaragua.

Also could play against non-FIFA members such as Zanzibar, Greenland, Mayotte, Reunion, Guadeloupe, French Guiana.

However, last year I realized that due to the busy schedule by FIFA, UEFA, AFC, etc many countries have abandoned their B teams. For Example, Danish League XI football team was their "B" national team and according to wiki their last game was in 2018 or Croatia B & France B national team according to wiki last match was 2001, last matches according to wiki Russia (2012), Iran B team last match was 2007, although had practice team with coach assigned until 2015.

Although some african countries still have B team, for Algeria is called Algeria A which plays friendlies with Palestine and some other Arab teams, most recent matches were in 2023.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeri..._football_team
Actually CAF has a cup which only players from African-based clubs feature for their national teams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa...s_Championship

The other major issue is that clubs are reluctant to let players go. Already national teams have encountered such issues because of clubs refusing to let their players go for national team matches.

So realistically Team Omid is our B team. If the rules always state that only 3 over-age players can feature in the match, then just need to rotate the 3 over age players so they get game time and be tested.

[Rooyintan]

This is the correct solution. Basically team Omid + three senior players should be our b Team.

I think this is when a things like WAFF and CAFA come handy. If we signs some agreements to take turn hosting different youth or B teams from central and West Asia, we can guarantee playing time for them.

Yes, excellent point. All CAFA teams should feature their B team or League XI players in CAFA Nations Cup so it will act as feed for national teams. Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan will really benefit too. Afghanistan and Turkmenistan can send their main team