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    Originally posted by Pluto2000 View Post

    With GN every game is a close game besides maybe Turkmenistan and Kyrgyzstan lol
    We drew Turkmenistan away with CQ

    Not defending Gn and I want him gone but really things were still much worse in 2010-2013 era

    and we were lucky to beat Uzbekistan away with that goal across the line - very lucky in deed
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      Originally posted by Super Shojaei View Post

      We drew Turkmenistan away with CQ

      Not defending Gn and I want him gone but really things were still much worse in 2010-2013 era

      and we were lucky to beat Uzbekistan away with that goal across the line - very lucky in deed
      The difference is back then, the reason why we tied all those games is because we didn't have a decent forward until Gucci saved us. We also had a defensive counterattacking system and every player knew their role and what to do in different phases of the game: counterattack, possession, defense, etc. So even if we didn't score we knew we weren't gonna concede a single goal.

      With all the attacking talent in this team its crazy to be going such a long streak of games without more goals, and its not like we have a defensive system to fall back on. Can you imagine if this current team faced Portugal in 2018 with these tactics? Bad defense, bad midfield, and the finishing touch of a 90 year old on viagra.

      Watch how our tactics were laid out in the Uruguay/Senegal/and Wales matches then watch any GN match. Its night and day.

      And I'm not saying CQ didn't have his own share of problems, but I don't know how anyone can watch our last 22 games under GN and come out with confidence saying "yeah we're getting to r16 next world cup"

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        I watched the whole game just now! I guess the comments are very harsh!
        We didn't play bad game at all! There were quite positive points :
        1. Nemati didn't look out of place at all for his first cap! Playing almost a half 10 men game!
        2. Saeid was solid, too bad this guy doesn't move his feet otherwise he would have been world class!
        3. Shoja and Milad had decent game
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        Weak points:
        1. Sardar was totally out of shape! Wtf man!!
        2. Taremi invisible, quite disappointed at him!
        3. Jahanbakhsh passes were totally off! Lack of club was obvious in his game!
        4. Mohebbi was not fit either, just came back from injury!


        Even with 10 men we were providing chances tbh!
        Team still has long way to go but we were always a team relying on set pieces + Taremi & Sardar combo!
        With Sardar fat ass and Taremi aging we are losing this advantage obviously!


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          Originally posted by Super Shojaei View Post

          We drew Turkmenistan away with CQ

          Not defending Gn and I want him gone but really things were still much worse in 2010-2013 era

          and we were lucky to beat Uzbekistan away with that goal across the line - very lucky in deed
          You want a bad era?

          From after the Asian cup to 96- WC98. Daie, Bagheri, Azizi, Mahdavikia, pashazadeh, Minavand, khakpour, Abedzadeh, Etc.

          This team had the WORST consistency and terrible defense. We kept losing games we should have won, and finally won a game we should have lost badly.

          To make everything worse, we had a new coach every few months.

          We have never had a worse performing team with the talent available.

          This is when TM fans developed bums of steel. Newer fans would not be able to keep their undies clean for one game from that team.

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            Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
            I watched the whole game just now! I guess the comments are very harsh!
            We didn't play bad game at all! There were quite positive points :
            1. Nemati didn't look out of place at all for his first cap! Playing almost a half 10 men game!
            2. Saeid was solid, too bad this guy doesn't move his feet otherwise he would have been world class!
            3. Shoja and Milad had decent game
            ——
            Weak points:
            1. Sardar was totally out of shape! Wtf man!!
            2. Taremi invisible, quite disappointed at him!
            3. Jahanbakhsh passes were totally off! Lack of club was obvious in his game!
            4. Mohebbi was not fit either, just came back from injury!


            Even with 10 men we were providing chances tbh!
            Team still has long way to go but we were always a team relying on set pieces + Taremi & Sardar combo!
            With Sardar fat ass and Taremi aging we are losing this advantage obviously!


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            I pretty much agree with this.
            I think GN got his tactics right.
            I even think Moghanlou was a good sub and did what he was supposed to do well.

            What’s killing us is that our best players aren’t at their best. GN won’t risk young players until qualification is certain. It’s lose lose in his eyes.
            A guy like Bagheri needs to be on the team to instill discipline and control players mentally.

            Next game will be our hardest game.




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              Originally posted by webmaster View Post
              Again the VAR cut our heads. I guess the machine or the refs there just don't like us. The obvious hand was not seen by the VAR? or is this just a way to win or not loose games? yeah for sure remember Qatar??? I hope we go back to real football with real referees. This is just not worth watching anymore.
              Pk on sardar was legit too.
              He held sardar back from behind while sardar has ball and moving forward...THE BS OF HE DIDNT HELD HIM LoNG ENOUGH IS EVEN MORE FUNNY..

              I WAS surprise the refs was calling 50/50 calls for tm , I guess he was giving those so he is Ble to cut neck whenever he wish....

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                Originally posted by Nokhodi View Post

                I pretty much agree with this.
                I think GN got his tactics right.
                I even think Moghanlou was a good sub and did what he was supposed to do well.

                What's killing us is that our best players aren't at their best. GN won't risk young players until qualification is certain. It's lose lose in his eyes.
                A guy like Bagheri needs to be on the team to instill discipline and control players mentally.

                Next game will be our hardest game.



                Estili confirmed this today. He said we will bring new players after we have qualified.

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                  Originally posted by koorosh View Post
                  Estili confirmed this today. He said we will bring new players after we have qualified.

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                  Fifa ranking is important,
                  One of the reason all these good players came to pgl is tm top 20 ranking.

                  We should not just bring players for a heck of it.
                  IF SYSTEM IS GOOD IS easy to inser t new player in. When a system is bad it's disaster.
                  None of our youngster can do jack under general system...just eaxample .so if we have to bring likes of v.amiri
                  Back to tm so tm have better chance to advance from the group in wc let it be.
                  V.amiri sure look good right now for Tuesday match if he was on the roster .....BA GENERAL
                  NEMISHE POOST ANDAKHT.

                  NEXT HC WILL HAVE TO DEAL WIRH THAT
                  Since general is gone after wc26 since we won't advance from the group.
                  New coach has 6 months to have team ready for ac27🤣 if they don't say we don't have time for new coach to make impact LETS HAVE GENERAL FOR AC27. Then we won't go young
                  Since there is no time and after general fail in ac27 THEN NEW HC WILL MAKE US GO YOUNG
                  For 2023 wcq and ac31.

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                    Originally posted by oracle View Post

                    Fifa ranking is important,
                    One of the reason all these good players came to pgl is tm top 20 ranking.

                    We should not just bring players for a heck of it.
                    IF SYSTEM IS GOOD IS easy to inser t new player in. When a system is bad it's disaster.
                    None of our youngster can do jack under general system...just eaxample .so if we have to bring likes of v.amiri
                    Back to tm so tm have better chance to advance from the group in wc let it be.
                    V.amiri sure look good right now for Tuesday match if he was on the roster .....BA GENERAL
                    NEMISHE POOST ANDAKHT.

                    NEXT HC WILL HAVE TO DEAL WIRH THAT
                    Since general is gone after wc26 since we won't advance from the group.
                    New coach has 6 months to have team ready for ac27🤣 if they don't say we don't have time for new coach to make impact LETS HAVE GENERAL FOR AC27. Then we won't go young
                    Since there is no time and after general fail in ac27 THEN NEW HC WILL MAKE US GO YOUNG
                    For 2023 wcq and ac31.
                    We acting like Saharkhizan is worse than Moghanlou or something....One of them has 5 G/A in Russian league in 10 games and the other only has 1 penalty goal in 9 games.

                    Its not a case of going young just to go young...some of our youth are clearly better than some players in some positions. I mean Hosseinzadeh is leading PGPL in goals right now, surely you would want him subbed in over Moghanlou since he only has 1 goal for TM in 10 caps lol


                    Also no one cares about TM 20th place ranking when deciding to come to PGPL, its our clubs offering them outlandish money like Sepahan giving all their foreigners millions

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                      https://youtu.be/GTmPEa9Gdy0?si=RP5feEYHcZe-9Evx

                      team Melli talk with video with new guest who I loved listening too. He had very balanced opinions and was not biased. I recommend you guys listen to what Mr. Foroughi was saying. Nice analysis. However, he is still raw for team Melli social media. First we have to teach him how to blame anything and everything on GN no matter what happens and also vouch for 14 year olds to start every game. Hope to see him again on more podcasts

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                        Originally posted by arj42 View Post
                        https://youtu.be/GTmPEa9Gdy0?si=RP5feEYHcZe-9Evx

                        team Melli talk with video with new guest who I loved listening too. He had very balanced opinions and was not biased. I recommend you guys listen to what Mr. Foroughi was saying. Nice analysis. However, he is still raw for team Melli social media. First we have to teach him how to blame anything and everything on GN no matter what happens and also vouch for 14 year olds to start every game. Hope to see him again on more podcasts

                        I just watched it. His guest is very well spoken and seem knowledgeable. Although he did predict that Saman will be in the starting lineup against Qatar, unaware that he will be suspended due to picking up his second yellow against Uzbekistan.

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                          Saeed Ezatolahi made the 3rd match day starting 11 list.

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                            Originally posted by Pluto2000 View Post

                            We acting like Saharkhizan is worse than Moghanlou or something....One of them has 5 G/A in Russian league in 10 games and the other only has 1 penalty goal in 9 games.

                            Its not a case of going young just to go young...some of our youth are clearly better than some players in some positions. I mean Hosseinzadeh is leading PGPL in goals right now, surely you would want him subbed in over Moghanlou since he only has 1 goal for TM in 10 caps lol


                            Also no one cares about TM 20th place ranking when deciding to come to PGPL, its our clubs offering them outlandish money like Sepahan giving all their foreigners millions
                            These young players get destroy in general system. They just disappear.
                            I am not saying this because i am cq fan. But in cq system ,since it was actual system it was easy to insert new players in .
                            Yes hezbavi,j.h should start. And sahar khizan should be 1st forward sub in, IF YOUR COACH IS NOT GENERAL.

                            Being top 20 really helps to stay on the map in world soccer. Of course is the money first but it dont hurt at all when negotiating thats great pitch to attract them.

                            MAGANLU HAS NO BUSSINES BEING ON TM.
                            HE HAD HIS CHANCE AND FAILED.

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                              Originally posted by Damavand View Post


                              I just watched it. His guest is very well spoken and seem knowledgeable. Although he did predict that Saman will be in the starting lineup against Qatar, unaware that he will be suspended due to picking up his second yellow against Uzbekistan.
                              Theres a chance GN forgets and we forfeit.

                              Can never overestimate Admin in Iran

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                                Originally posted by perspolis#1 View Post

                                Theres a chance GN forgets and we forfeit.

                                Can never overestimate Admin in Iran
                                I am pretty sure if I remember correctly
                                He did that with a club team in iran already.

                                He didnt send the list to afc on time and his team was kicked out acl🤣...

                                U have a valid point.

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