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We shouldnt be scared. Respect is fine, but the players must believe that we Can win, which we Can. Its so important to qualify for The World Cup, so our players Can get som exposure.
Gholizadeh has been great this tournament. But he hasnt played a single minute for Sepahan in the League. He is not Even on the bench. One of our hottest 19 year old prospects isnt Playing first team Football? He Only Play reserve or youth matches? Come on, that Cant be right. In every other country, 18-19 year olds are Playing regulary first team Football. Many of our aint.
" In every other country" thats the key sentence, every other country does not have I.R ape occupation.
I don’t think South Korea fielded their strongest team today. They had 6/7 different players compared to their first two matches. Based on that, we might be facing the weaker team between the two of them.
But from what I’ve seen so far from our own team it doesn’t really matter who we’ll face in the tournament. This team has the capabilities of beating any team in the tournament.
His situation with Sepahan seems a bit odd. Sepahan is one of the few teams in our league that gives chances to academy players and he made a few minutes after the U17 World Cup. However, since then something seems to have happened because 1) he’s not following Sepahan on IG, 2) the only pictures he posted in the past year are the ones with Team Melli, 3) there was an article back in June/July on Varzesh3 saying he was close to leaving Sepahan and 4) there were a few articles in November linking him to Persepolis.
According to most sources he should be part of Sepahan’s academy and that seems to be the case because their IG account shared his goal and his invitation to the U20 team. However, at the same time I can’t find any recent post where he is mentioned in the lineup of Sepahan’s U20 or U21 team.
We shouldnt be scared. Respect is fine, but the players must believe that we Can win, which we Can. Its so important to qualify for The World Cup, so our players Can get som exposure.
Gholizadeh has been great this tournament. But he hasnt played a single minute for Sepahan in the League. He is not Even on the bench. One of our hottest 19 year old prospects isnt Playing first team Football? He Only Play reserve or youth matches? Come on, that Cant be right. In every other country, 18-19 year olds are Playing regulary first team Football. Many of our aint.
As someone who follows Serie A, and for a time followed Polish league, I disagree. I don't think you would find many 18 year olds playing regular first team football in big leagues like Italy. Most places like that are La Liga with kids like Yamal or Belgium where their business model is buying cheap youth to sell for big bucks after a season or two.
Look at a team like Inter for example. They don't have any U23 year olds starting. All their youth prospects play in fourth tier of Italian football with Inter U23. You go to even our own legionnaires like Rostami who played youth level at Pogon until 20 before he even got a whiff of senior training. Even kids like Stuckler who got 60 g/a at youth level didn't get called up to the senior team until 20 for Cremonese.
Gholizadeh is a product of their grassroots Sepahan academy. He grew up in their U15 -> U17 -> U20 and now is starting to get bench time in their senior team at 19 with plans for more. They've been producing quite a few players recently, you might have noticed Hosseinejad who randomly appeared at age of 19-20 from there as well last season.
On this topic of play time, you also have many of our U20 who are actually starting pretty frequently nowadays. Shakouri played a bunch of games for Havadar. Ghandipour starts full time for Malavan. Razzaghinia starts full time for Gol Gohar. Mobin has been starting to get full games at Kheybar. Zamani has debut for Esteghlal senior team. Barajeh has debut for Persepolis senior team, etc.
A quick look at Japan's team, I saw that the vast majority of them are are J-League players on the bench. So we're not that different. Our domestic football has a lot of things that it does wrong, and infrastructure could definitely be improved, but let's start to give praise where praise is due. The league has been implementing age rules and our league is 3 years younger this season than last. You have Aluminum who are essentially U24
His situation with Sepahan seems a bit odd. Sepahan is one of the few teams in our league that gives chances to academy players and he made a few minutes after the U17 World Cup. However, since then something seems to have happened because 1) he’s not following Sepahan on IG, 2) the only pictures he posted in the past year are the ones with Team Melli, 3) there was an article back in June/July on Varzesh3 saying he was close to leaving Sepahan and 4) there were a few articles in November linking him to Persepolis.
According to most sources he should be part of Sepahan’s academy and that seems to be the case because their IG account shared his goal and his invitation to the U20 team. However, at the same time I can’t find any recent post where he is mentioned in the lineup of Sepahan’s U20 or U21 team.
AFAIK I saw posts with him training with Sepahan senior team over the winter break and know that he was on the bench during the super cup game vs Persepolis. I believe he has also missed about 5-6 league match days due to camp with our U20. Abdi trains them pretty frequently. Sometimes you see a random post about our U20 facing Malavan's senior team or something during PGPL off times.
AFAIK I saw posts with him training with Sepahan senior team over the winter break and know that he was on the bench during the super cup game vs Persepolis. I believe he has also missed about 5-6 league match days due to camp with our U20. Abdi trains them pretty frequently. Sometimes you see a random post about our U20 facing Malavan's senior team or something during PGPL off times.
True but I think you’ve mistaken him for Esmaeil Falamarzi. He was on the bench during the Super Cup and made a few appearances recently. The last time Gholizadeh made the bench for Sepahan’s senior team in an official fixture was the first of January in 2024.
As someone who follows Serie A, and for a time followed Polish league, I disagree. I don't think you would find many 18 year olds playing regular first team football in big leagues like Italy. Most places like that are La Liga with kids like Yamal or Belgium where their business model is buying cheap youth to sell for big bucks after a season or two.
Look at a team like Inter for example. They don't have any U23 year olds starting. All their youth prospects play in fourth tier of Italian football with Inter U23. You go to even our own legionnaires like Rostami who played youth level at Pogon until 20 before he even got a whiff of senior training. Even kids like Stuckler who got 60 g/a at youth level didn't get called up to the senior team until 20 for Cremonese.
Gholizadeh is a product of their grassroots Sepahan academy. He grew up in their U15 -> U17 -> U20 and now is starting to get bench time in their senior team at 19 with plans for more. They've been producing quite a few players recently, you might have noticed Hosseinejad who randomly appeared at age of 19-20 from there as well last season.
On this topic of play time, you also have many of our U20 who are actually starting pretty frequently nowadays. Shakouri played a bunch of games for Havadar. Ghandipour starts full time for Malavan. Razzaghinia starts full time for Gol Gohar. Mobin has been starting to get full games at Kheybar. Zamani has debut for Esteghlal senior team. Barajeh has debut for Persepolis senior team, etc.
A quick look at Japan's team, I saw that the vast majority of them are are J-League players on the bench. So we're not that different. Our domestic football has a lot of things that it does wrong, and infrastructure could definitely be improved, but let's start to give praise where praise is due. The league has been implementing age rules and our league is 3 years younger this season than last. You have Aluminum who are essentially U24
I dont quite agree. Look at the last competitive match Italy U-21 had. The line up are all first team players. They play all most week in week out. And not in their 4th division. And I never mentioned they should play for Inter or other top clubs. Just that the U-21/20 starters should play first team Football. Atleast be on the bench. Our best performer this tournament isnt Even on the bench. Im just asking What is he doing. Does anybody know?
And regarding Rostami in Poland. Maybe he just wasnt good enough over there. Good Young players normally play. Especially at the age of 20.
And yes, we Can agree that it has gotten much better. Some IPL teams are Playing youth players which is good. But we are still far far behind the rest of the world. I would prefer the players getting loaned to a Azedegan team, than Playing in youth teams.
I am of course Talking about the best Young players we have. I understand that every team just Cant play 10 Young players.
If We look at the team that started against Indonesia, Only 2 players are starters in their team. Razzaghinia and Ghandipour.
The goalkeeper has played 3 matches for the worst team in the League.
In the back 4, three of the players hasnt played a single minute first team Football and the last has had 2 small sub appearances. For like 1 minute or so.
So you are painting a much better picture than reality. Its gotten better but its still bad. I hope it Will continue to improve though. But I would prefer that our main Young players played first team football
If Japan is so scary why cant they beat a wartorn Syria or a "weaker" Korea.
Lets knock out Japan and ruin the financial incentives for clubs looking for Asian players.
Sorry Euro clubs, Iranians only, no sponsorship, no economic opportunities, just a future TM player and vibes
It's not about scary
it's about not matching up well vs speedy team.
Yes tm beat Japan in 23ac , BUT IF THEY PLAY THAT GAME 4 TIMES JAPAN WILL WIN 3, it was tm day and they played the match of once in a life time to win.
Can tm u20 beat Japan?
Yes
Imo If they play 3 times 1 time iran will win
can that one time be this ac qf wcq
I DONT THINK SO.
On the senior level in tournaments Japan tends wear down a bit more than other teams as the games progress to the knockout rounds. Hopefully that is going to be the case here. Also we have to make the game more physical to counter their speed.
one way to have a chance to beat this Japan team
imo is
play defensive football, give them the ball and seat back ,get physical with them and attack them on the air and set pieces we have a chance.
but
if we come out and try to press them high and go at them they will punish us.
It's not about scary
it's about not matching up well vs speedy team.
Yes tm beat Japan in 23ac , BUT IF THEY PLAY THAT GAME 4 TIMES JAPAN WILL WIN 3, it was tm day and they played the match of once in a life time to win.
Can tm u20 beat Japan?
Yes
Imo If they play 3 times 1 time iran will win
can that one time be this ac qf wcq
I DONT THINK SO.
HOPE I AM WRONG.
We matchup worse against teams that are better technically and have even better physicality like Bosnia.
Argentina, Brazil, Italy would not beat us the way England, Germany, France would.
We can beat Japan especially at this age group with solid defensive plan to close off space in the middle and push them to the wings.
On wings we have good defensive coverage and Japan will be forced to cross and have little set piece threat.
Then when we get possession from them break their counterpress and attack and score or get fouls outside the box.
Team like Getafe beats Barcelona we can beat Japan
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