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  • PSGman#19
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    Originally posted by Super Shojaei View Post

    I totally understand it - one decent performance in the World Cup and it probably earns him a move to Qatar or uae and it sets him up for life.




    Even Steven beitashour said in his 2019 interview that international fixtures were the best for getting looks abroad - playing a wcq or Asian cup puts you under the spotlight for global recognition and can seal you offers from teams around the world. Even with beitashour’s 6 caps for Iran it was enough for him to get an offer from China pre Covid .




    Him playing for Iran puts him in the shop window for the rich Arab clubs - a couple of good performances In the Asian cup or World Cup and he probably prolongs his career and gets an extra pay check on top of it




    There’s a reason why some Japanese born North Koreans opt to play for North Korea despite the political headache it entails - the marketing they get from it is invaluable towards their careers




    I don’t expect him to be head over heals when he’s only 1/4 Iranian - hard to have that much attachment when his grandfather didn’t even live with him in Germany and has now passed . No doubt we are his second choice but we were also second choice to beitashour who said in a podcast interview it was a shame he got injured while training for the US

    football is a business and players know that from a marketing perspective nothing beats top level international football in terms of eyeballs what’s gonna top the World Cup ? Nothing
    I understand but club football is already there to grow your career and earn money. If a player use NT and country with the main goal to improve his career or to target an arab juicy contract for a short term transfer, it is better for him not to come. Indeed now I can smell a transfer to Al arabi one or two years after joining TM.

    About attachement I also understand but I expect him to start to go closer to Iran and iranian culture/language if he starts to represent TM. Dejagah and Zandi did a wonderful job on that.

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  • Gol Bezan
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    https://www.varzesh3.com/news/2091976

    Varzesh 3 published an article about the interview.

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  • Super Shojaei
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IXLMf6...9kY2FzdA%3D%3D This is the beitashour interview where he talks about the importance of international football btw - so people don’t think I’m making it up

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  • Super Shojaei
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    Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post
    I agree he doesn't seem so motivated with TM, playing a world cup for playing a world cup whether it is with Iran, indonesia or Zimbabwe or X or Y seems to be the main motivation.

    I honestly don't understand how a football player can be motivated by playing a world cup for the sake of playing a world cup. It is not champions league. World cup like Olympics is all about representing your country. if the country you represent has no importance and can be exchange depending of opportunities, then it is completely meaningless.

    I don't know personally I think playing a world cup with another country than Iran is equal or even worse that not playing a wc at all
    I totally understand it - one decent performance in the World Cup and it probably earns him a move to Qatar or uae and it sets him up for life.




    Even Steven beitashour said in his 2019 interview that international fixtures were the best for getting looks abroad - playing a wcq or Asian cup puts you under the spotlight for global recognition and can seal you offers from teams around the world. Even with beitashour’s 6 caps for Iran it was enough for him to get an offer from China pre Covid .




    Him playing for Iran puts him in the shop window for the rich Arab clubs - a couple of good performances In the Asian cup or World Cup and he probably prolongs his career and gets an extra pay check on top of it




    There’s a reason why some Japanese born North Koreans opt to play for North Korea despite the political headache it entails - the marketing they get from it is invaluable towards their careers




    I don’t expect him to be head over heals when he’s only 1/4 Iranian - hard to have that much attachment when his grandfather didn’t even live with him in Germany and has now passed . No doubt we are his second choice but we were also second choice to beitashour who said in a podcast interview it was a shame he got injured while training for the US

    football is a business and players know that from a marketing perspective nothing beats top level international football in terms of eyeballs what’s gonna top the World Cup ? Nothing

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  • PSGman#19
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    I agree he doesn't seem so motivated with TM, playing a world cup for playing a world cup whether it is with Iran, indonesia or Zimbabwe or X or Y seems to be the main motivation.

    I honestly don't understand how a football player can be motivated by playing a world cup for the sake of playing a world cup. It is not champions league. World cup like Olympics is all about representing your country. if the country you represent has no importance and can be exchange depending of opportunities, then it is completely meaningless.

    I don't know personally I think playing a world cup with another country than Iran is equal or even worse that not playing a wc at all

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  • BacheLot
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    Originally posted by arj42 View Post

    Luckily his aunt has 1 million insta followers and is clearly high ranking member of society. What I mean is she has a higher chance of figuring this out with her resources compared to average family member living in iran. Also, there were some talks here about her being related somewhow to Ali parvin through marriage or something. He can help too
    it's mostly the matter of greasing the right guy in the city/province records dept to dig bit deeper for proof of his Gpa birth certificate or whatever other silly madrak required..! if his auntie that connected and famous shouldnt be a huge task..!!
    however as i suggested initially, i still suspect this whole thing is mostly just a chaaploosi/fan appeasing publicity stunt by GN and his TM cronies to to soften up a bit the recent harsh criticism of his coaching performances regardless of his winning record at helm of TM so far..!?
    i just dont see a grave need for a Striker reinforcement in the current TM talent mix, certainly not a faintly-iranian dou raggeh who comes with lots of hassles and paperwork to register as iran international..!!?

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  • Super Shojaei
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    Originally posted by arj42 View Post

    Maybe one day they throw us a pizza party in gheitarieh park with the kitty cats. Across all social media platforms, how many individuals post content or contribute to this page, YouTube, twitter as of today. 150 ppl? Only 20 large pizza needed to feed us
    So the same amount of food as Ghalenoei’s average snap order

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  • Gol Bezan
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    Originally posted by arj42 View Post

    What happened to the 1 v 1 training that was supposed to happen between Ghalenoi and eckert in Dubai? I guess that was just rumour because no mention of it by Eckert. Worst worst case scenario it doesn’t work out and we play saharkhizan who is doing great. Midfield is where we really need to grasp at anything that comes our way, striker position, not so mcuh
    The rumours were all false. The fact they tried to say he was CALLED UP for a March list is ridiculous.

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  • arj42
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    Originally posted by Super Shojaei View Post

    i think PDFC and Gol Bezan are doing a lot more for team melli then meets the eye-

    Look at the Aria Jasur Hageswa situation - CQ didn't try to call him up until two months after the first thread about him went up on PDFC- coincidence? i really highly doubt it and i wouldnt be surprised if team melli staff watch some threads here at least.

    And of course Gol Bezan's interview with Kaveh was bigged up by iranian media

    pdfc and gol bezan are making a difference to Iran's football imo - may not be noticeable at first hand but when you dig deeper its plain to see
    Maybe one day they throw us a pizza party in gheitarieh park with the kitty cats. Across all social media platforms, how many individuals post content or contribute to this page, YouTube, twitter as of today. 150 ppl? Only 20 large pizza needed to feed us

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  • arj42
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    Originally posted by Pluto2000 View Post

    100% This can be solved with a phone call to the sports ministry and government contacts. This is a case of being wishy washy and lazy. If this was CQ he would be asking Taj to step in and help + making a ruckus to expedite it. GN probably doesn't care much seeing as how he hasn't met him face to face.
    What happened to the 1 v 1 training that was supposed to happen between Ghalenoi and eckert in Dubai? I guess that was just rumour because no mention of it by Eckert. Worst worst case scenario it doesn’t work out and we play saharkhizan who is doing great. Midfield is where we really need to grasp at anything that comes our way, striker position, not so mcuh

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  • Super Shojaei
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    Originally posted by Pluto2000 View Post

    100% This can be solved with a phone call to the sports ministry and government contacts. This is a case of being wishy washy and lazy. If this was CQ he would be asking Taj to step in and help + making a ruckus to expedite it. GN probably doesn't care much seeing as how he hasn't met him face to face.
    Cq flew to Japan on the off chance that hageswa would say yes

    so far with Eckert we only had contact from Ghalenoei’s assistant so far

    I hope the next tm boss is at least proactive in solving these situations fast the last 3 haven’t been.

    we need proof and paperwork to show his grandad was born in Iran - so far we don’t have that yet

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  • Pluto2000
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    Originally posted by Super Shojaei View Post

    he said his aunt was finalising documents two days ago regarding his passport and that there were still some documents about his grandfather that were missing. So we are stuck at this point till the aunt or the federation does something to resolve it basically.
    100% This can be solved with a phone call to the sports ministry and government contacts. This is a case of being wishy washy and lazy. If this was CQ he would be asking Taj to step in and help + making a ruckus to expedite it. GN probably doesn't care much seeing as how he hasn't met him face to face.

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  • Super Shojaei
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    Originally posted by Pluto2000 View Post

    Honestly Gol Bezan is such a gem to the Team Melli community, yall are always doing tremendous work every time. Kudos to everyone on the team.

    P.S does Gol Bezan have insider connections to IFF/people in TM? Maybe we can get Zahiroleslam and all these other diaspora kids more in their face so they have no choice but to call all these players up
    i think PDFC and Gol Bezan are doing a lot more for team melli then meets the eye-

    Look at the Aria Jasur Hageswa situation - CQ didn't try to call him up until two months after the first thread about him went up on PDFC- coincidence? i really highly doubt it and i wouldnt be surprised if team melli staff watch some threads here at least.

    And of course Gol Bezan's interview with Kaveh was bigged up by iranian media

    pdfc and gol bezan are making a difference to Iran's football imo - may not be noticeable at first hand but when you dig deeper its plain to see

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  • Super Shojaei
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    Originally posted by Iran_19 View Post
    I dont get this! His grand pa passed away ok rouhesh shad! The grand pa didn’t have any birth certificate, or anything which relate him to Iran? Any ID? Shouldn’t be that hard tbh!
    he said his aunt was finalising documents two days ago regarding his passport and that there were still some documents about his grandfather that were missing. So we are stuck at this point till the aunt or the federation does something to resolve it basically.

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  • Super Shojaei
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    Originally posted by arj42 View Post

    Luckily his aunt has 1 million insta followers and is clearly high ranking member of society. What I mean is she has a higher chance of figuring this out with her resources compared to average family member living in iran. Also, there were some talks here about her being related somewhow to Ali parvin through marriage or something. He can help too
    shes clearly trying and is being proactive - she was trying two days ago according to eckert but theres still documents regarding his grandad that's missing so until we have that then its a game of chinese whispers for the forseeable future.

    I shouldve asked ghalenoi about eckert when i met him in Laos - it completely skipped my mind lol

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