Lets all Collectively Agree on Beiranvand, Shoja, and Kanaani

[Pluto2000]

Guys I just watched Tractor vs Saudi Club, and I'm baffled.


Beiranvand: He cannot save any ball that is not handed to him directly. Guys he makes sooti after sooti. His feet move separately than his body, his movements are like someone entering cheat code on GTA San Andreas, up down left right x. He looked completely wasted out there, the Saudi keeper off the street did better in penalties than him. He's DONE. Why can we not start Arsha Shakouri or Khalife? I understand they might be raw but they can only get better and better. This Beiranvand has conceded average 18 goals in last 20 games. We're already at rock bottom in terms of concessions.


Shoja: Physically cannot run, he is not fast enough to defend. He fell down and cramped 5 times during that match. At one point he gave up defending and started yelling because he could not mark his opponent in time. He's just too old to keep playing.

Kanaani: He didn't play today but all Persepolis fans here know...his knees don't work anymore.


These players are A MUST test in upcoming TM games: Shakouri/Khalife, Zare, Aghasi, Hazbavi etc. I understand that they might not be as experienced or even as good sometimes, but they cannot get worse than our current players. If not them then we need to go look at diaspora options... we have U23 Swedish goalkeepr Elish Bishesari who is Iranian. There are Iranian CBs in youth teams in Germany. Something has to change...otherwise we are cooked simply put.

[a_m]

These 3 are all starters for GN at the next work cup no matter what happens, it doesn’t matter what the fans think , it just a big mafia , and they going to play the players they wants no matter if they in form or not , old and slow , washed up , GN is there to not win games at the World Cup he just there , to supervise the team so no one say anything bad about government.

[perspolis#1]

GN is going to play them even if they aged 10 yrs overnight.

They are washed but it doesnt matter. No creativity or tactical planning or foresight by GN.

Its the equivalent of trying to teach Genghis Khan how to knit a sweater

[Pluto2000]

GN is going to play them even if they aged 10 yrs overnight.

They are washed but it doesnt matter. No creativity or tactical planning or foresight by GN.

Its the equivalent of trying to teach Genghis Khan how to knit a sweater

We are beyond cooked. Our league sucks, our domestic players suck, 2 legionnaires are coming back to Iran next season (Moharrami and Gholizadeh). Our U17 missing the World Cup.

All thats left is for TM to lose against UAE/Uzbekistan for us to complete the fall off. I don't think its controversial to say the place we are heading towards is even worse than 2009. Only saving grace is we are making the world cup, but that will be short lived by the embarassment

[oracle]

I am all for shoja and kanani to not get call up that might wake kanani up.

But biravand absolutely not
Don't have better than him.
Biravand until 27ac.

[Pluto2000]

I am all for shoja and kanani to not get call up that might wake kanani up.

But biravand absolutely not
Don't have better than him.
Biravand until 27ac.

We're cooked if we don't have better than him. If he stays he need 3 tablets of lexapro, xanax, and a good dose of lsd to help his anxiety in the tournament. Idk what happened to him but he looks at the ball like its not a ball, but someone kicked a kalepache at him

[PSGman#19]

We are beyond cooked. Our league sucks, our domestic players suck, 2 legionnaires are coming back to Iran next season (Moharrami and Gholizadeh). Our U17 missing the World Cup.

All thats left is for TM to lose against UAE/Uzbekistan for us to complete the fall off. I don't think its controversial to say the place we are heading towards is even worse than 2009. Only saving grace is we are making the world cup, but that will be short lived by the embarassment

Exactly, as said before, our football sx and is dead for good, specially with U20 missing the world cup. Not only that but our U20 club situation is a pure embarassment : Andarz to leganes is fishy, with more play with U20 TM and no communication from the club. Shakouri doesn't even play for the worst club of the league. Esmaei gholizadeh don't play at Sepahan, and don't even play with Shams Azar he is supposed to join. Not fully convinced by Razaghinia.Ghandipour completly disappear with Malavan

Our legionnaire sx while having access to decent leagues and best european clubs. That's why they get injuried left and right. Our domestic pool sx, I am also not convinced by diaspora players, nor the league prospects. I remember the Pourhamidi GK being hyped. I watched him 3 days he was catastrophic in all of them and finally completly disappeared.

Random african countries that eat rocks and can only dream of current iran situation have world class players out of nowhere, successing in world class clubs (Aubameyang "Gabon", Adebayor "Togo"). Don't say they have french ties, we also sent player to a good Russia league (the same way the Uzbek from City or the georgian from PSG/Napoli did), atletico academy, to a polish club, to trabzonspor.. They all failed big. How neighbouring countries like Georgia, Armenia or Uzbekistan with less population and less obsession for football and no WC participation can have players out of nowhere succeding in top clubs?

Not only our players sx but all our domestic coaches and basically everything in iranian football ecosystem (media, fans,...). When fans ask for Osmar head before its first game to hype some crappy players like Alishah or hype some GK because he save a ball shot directly on him.. I aslo remember how fans and media were criticizing GN for calling Shakouri as a 4rd GK. Poor GN, once he did something right.

Btw I don't understand the mental or self confidence thing for our players. Most iranians you can see in Iran have 100x more self confidence that any european as they are wolves to fk everybody in everyday life.

Iranians showed they are capable in other sports : taekwondo, wrestling, even volleyball. Some other sports are emerging out of nowhere (handball, table tennis, waterpolo, ice hockey, climbing..) Time to stop focusing on just 3 sports. Let the damn football out and put the spotlights elsewhere.

[Nokhodi]

Exactly, as said before, our football sx and is dead for good, specially with U20 missing the world cup. Not only that but our U20 club situation is a pure embarassment : Andarz to leganes is fishy, with more play with U20 TM and no communication from the club. Shakouri doesn't even play for the worst club of the league. Esmaei gholizadeh don't play at Sepahan, and don't even play with Shams Azar he is supposed to join. Not fully convinced by Razaghinia.Ghandipour completly disappear with Malavan

Our legionnaire sx while having access to decent leagues and best european clubs. That's why they get injuried left and right. Our domestic pool sx, I am also not convinced by diaspora players, nor the league prospects. I remember the Pourhamidi GK being hyped. I watched him 3 days he was catastrophic in all of them and finally completly disappeared.

Random african countries that eat rocks and can only dream of current iran situation have world class players out of nowhere, successing in world class clubs (Aubameyang "Gabon", Adebayor "Togo"). Don't say they have french ties, we also sent player to a good Russia league (the same way the Uzbek from City or the georgian from PSG/Napoli did), atletico academy, to a polish club, to trabzonspor.. They all failed big. How neighbouring countries like Georgia, Armenia or Uzbekistan with less population and less obsession for football and no WC participation can have players out of nowhere succeding in top clubs?

Not only our players sx but all our domestic coaches and basically everything in iranian football ecosystem (media, fans,...). When fans ask for Osmar head before its first game to hype some crappy players like Alishah or hype some GK because he save a ball shot directly on him.. I aslo remember how fans and media were criticizing GN for calling Shakouri as a 4rd GK. Poor GN, once he did something right.

Btw I don't understand the mental or self confidence thing for our players. Most iranians you can see in Iran have 100x more self confidence that any european as they are wolves to fk everybody in everyday life.

Iranians showed they are capable in other sports : taekwondo, wrestling, even volleyball. Some other sports are emerging out of nowhere (handball, table tennis, waterpolo, ice hockey, climbing..) Time to stop focusing on just 3 sports. Let the damn football out and put the spotlights elsewhere.

tell me how you really feel!

someone get this man some koobideh!

[mehdi13]

shoghal, who recorded himself singing ‘salam farmande’ became starter in TM at age 31 after one of biggest dalal coach in TM history invited him after 2 coach didn’t touch him for 10 years. Hmmm very interesting…

[oracle]

Exactly, as said before, our football sx and is dead for good, specially with U20 missing the world cup. Not only that but our U20 club situation is a pure embarassment : Andarz to leganes is fishy, with more play with U20 TM and no communication from the club. Shakouri doesn't even play for the worst club of the league. Esmaei gholizadeh don't play at Sepahan, and don't even play with Shams Azar he is supposed to join. Not fully convinced by Razaghinia.Ghandipour completly disappear with Malavan

Our legionnaire sx while having access to decent leagues and best european clubs. That's why they get injuried left and right. Our domestic pool sx, I am also not convinced by diaspora players, nor the league prospects. I remember the Pourhamidi GK being hyped. I watched him 3 days he was catastrophic in all of them and finally completly disappeared.

Random african countries that eat rocks and can only dream of current iran situation have world class players out of nowhere, successing in world class clubs (Aubameyang "Gabon", Adebayor "Togo"). Don't say they have french ties, we also sent player to a good Russia league (the same way the Uzbek from City or the georgian from PSG/Napoli did), atletico academy, to a polish club, to trabzonspor.. They all failed big. How neighbouring countries like Georgia, Armenia or Uzbekistan with less population and less obsession for football and no WC participation can have players out of nowhere succeding in top clubs?

Not only our players sx but all our domestic coaches and basically everything in iranian football ecosystem (media, fans,...). When fans ask for Osmar head before its first game to hype some crappy players like Alishah or hype some GK because he save a ball shot directly on him.. I aslo remember how fans and media were criticizing GN for calling Shakouri as a 4rd GK. Poor GN, once he did something right.

Btw I don't understand the mental or self confidence thing for our players. Most iranians you can see in Iran have 100x more self confidence that any european as they are wolves to fk everybody in everyday life.

Iranians showed they are capable in other sports : taekwondo, wrestling, even volleyball. Some other sports are emerging out of nowhere (handball, table tennis, waterpolo, ice hockey, climbing..) Time to stop focusing on just 3 sports. Let the damn football out and put the spotlights elsewhere.

our tm is top 20 and keep climbing higher in the world, and that is amazing....and end of the day that is all that matters, if your mentality is I want all these teams and players for tm then being top 20 that is all it matters.

[PSGman#19]

We are top20 because we play low opposition in most asian competitions and friendlies. This and riding on our group of (ex-) euro legionnaires. We don't have such luxury in the near future

[oracle]

We're cooked if we don't have better than him. If he stays he need 3 tablets of lexapro, xanax, and a good dose of lsd to help his anxiety in the tournament. Idk what happened to him but he looks at the ball like its not a ball, but someone kicked a kalepache at him

BTW the vis vis is
biravand actually being 36 years old and using his younger brother bc .
his real name is mamad reza

[persian8iran]

I can't agree about Shoja. He did great. He reminds me Otamendi, making good performance even losing his pace because of his age. We can't blame Shoja about the match yesterday

[oracle]

We are top20 because we play low opposition in most asian competitions and friendlies. This and riding on our group of (ex-) euro legionnaires. We don't have such luxury in the near future

Persian players talent is enough to keep us top 25
for many years to come. With this talent we should be top 15 but because of circumstances cant, so will take top 25.
Yeah everything sux but talent is enough to keep tm floating....

[Pluto2000]

I can't agree about Shoja. He did great. He reminds me Otamendi, making good performance even losing his pace because of his age. We can't blame Shoja about the match yesterday

If you think that then idk what to tell u lol, his clear physical decline aside, he was screaming constantly at everyone.