Mr Taj, time to fire GN NOW!

[PSGman#19]

I agree with a lot of SS' points here , and just to give some facts/stats to backup this point he raised regarding teams that are improving, the 2 examples that he gave were Uzbekistan and Jordan...

Uzbekistan have their captain playing for Roma, their big name player is Khusanov at Man City , as well as their young promising future-focused player playing for CSKA and already having 25 national team caps at the age of 21.

Jordan's top goal scorer meanwhile (22 goals in 71 games) just joined Rennes in French top league 2 months ago, after having spent the past 4 seasons also in France and Belgium being a very reliable winger...


Now don't get me wrong, on ability alone, I think our top goalscorer is better than theirs, our captain is better than theirs, etc.
But the point still stands, that Asian countries are improving A LOT and yet Iran is holding itself back and relying on being lucky to get by.

Let's not overrate others too much either. Uzbekistan is rising and are in a good path, but their job is far from complete. Like Korea that have players in Bayern, Tottenham, PSG but can't translate that in national team.
Happy for Khusanov at Man City but City is a very bad this season. They condede 2 against us with him. Shmorodunov is a sub at Roma (still scoring more than Azmoun there, yes). For national team, he doesn't have the same impact than Azmoun (miss a penalty last month). The guy at CSKA had rumors from bayern 2 years ago, he is still at CSKA.

The jordan guy in France alternate good period and bad period in a bottom ranked team. Decent player but nothing too impressive for our standard.

[Super Shojaei]

Let's not overrate others too much either. Uzbekistan is rising and are in a good path, but their job is far from complete. Like Korea that have players in Bayern, Tottenham, PSG but can't translate that in national team.
Happy for Khusanov at Man City but City is a very bad this season. They condede 2 against us with him. Shmorodunov is a sub at Roma (still scoring more than Azmoun there, yes). For national team, he doesn't have the same impact than Azmoun (miss a penalty last month). The guy at CSKA had rumors from bayern 2 years ago, he is still at CSKA.

The jordan guy in France alternate good period and bad period in a bottom ranked team. Decent player but nothing too impressive for our standard.

Jordan guy earned himself a €10 mil valued move- nothing to be scoffed at he’s definitely proved himself

Uzbekistan are doing well at youth level , Khusanov looks a real talent, their clubs are much poorer than ours but they are still producing top level talent at a fraction of the cost of ours is right now

I feel like alot of money is wasted in Iranian football

SS have a $12 mil budget announced that’s more than any k league or Uzbek team plus the majority of the j league I wonder who they will wasted it on in the summer

[Pluto2000]

Jordan guy earned himself a €10 mil valued move- nothing to be scoffed at he’s definitely proved himself

Uzbekistan are doing well at youth level , Khusanov looks a real talent, their clubs are much poorer than ours but they are still producing top level talent at a fraction of the cost of ours is right now

I feel like alot of money is wasted in Iranian football

SS have a $12 mil budget announced that’s more than any k league or Uzbek team plus the majority of the j league I wonder who they will wasted it on in the summer

probably spend 12 million on a washed up ex french national team player. Persepolis is the same. Sepahan does the same but I forgive them because they also produce 80% of our youth prospects. You can think of a youth right now, and they probably either came from Sepahan, Gol Gohar, Foolad, or Kia

[PSGman#19]

Iranian clubs are also poorer that uae qatar and ksa but we produce and export more players. Even within IPL, poorer clubs let their players go abroad more easily that richer ones. And seeing how bad Iranian coach are and how bad full Iranian team play (from our u17 to IPL one decade ago without foreigners) it is a good sign to bring foreigners. It's a myth to think we will go somewhere staying among iranians with incompetent vatani coach, players that only know bezan ziresh and approximative technique/tactics and club/fans thinking they are Barcelona

[PSGman#19]

Javad Khiabani spot on again : Criticize GN for not playing our young stars, proposing to rest Taremi and Azmoun to prepare alternatives, give the example of Ali Daei that extend his stay and didn't let any other striker to emerge

[DJ Alborz]

Let's not overrate others too much either. Uzbekistan is rising and are in a good path, but their job is far from complete. Like Korea that have players in Bayern, Tottenham, PSG but can't translate that in national team.
Happy for Khusanov at Man City but City is a very bad this season. They condede 2 against us with him. Shmorodunov is a sub at Roma (still scoring more than Azmoun there, yes). For national team, he doesn't have the same impact than Azmoun (miss a penalty last month). The guy at CSKA had rumors from bayern 2 years ago, he is still at CSKA.

The jordan guy in France alternate good period and bad period in a bottom ranked team. Decent player but nothing too impressive for our standard.

I agree with a lot of your points (especially that Fayzullaev should have left CSKA by now to progress his development)...

But that is why I said in my original post

Now don't get me wrong, on ability alone, I think our top goalscorer is better than theirs, our captain is better than theirs, etc.
But the point still stands, that Asian countries are improving A LOT and yet Iran is holding itself back and relying on being lucky to get by.

Our players At the moment are all better than theirs. But if we don't address the reality that all of those countries are improving themselves, then within a decade, they will overtake us...

We will be back to where we were in the late 2000's , when Iran's national team was at this level:

• UAE 1-1 Iran
• Iran 2-2 Kuwait
• Iran 1-2 Saudi

In my personal opinion, we are currently above those teams. Our players (Azmoun, Taremi, Jahanbakhsh) all have the technical ability to perform better than those teams but if we don't address the reality that other countries are improving themselves, then we we will fall behind and go back to that level that we were before...

[Nokhodi]

A better way to compare a football team is to see how good a team's worst player on the field is. That's the level you should compare.
I would say our worst player in TM is better than the worst player in most Asian national football teams except for maybe Japan and South Korea.

[Pluto2000]

A better way to compare a football team is to see how good a team's worst player on the field is. That's the level you should compare.
I would say our worst player in TM is better than the worst player in most Asian national football teams except for maybe Japan and South Korea.

Shoja vs your average Asian CB😭😭