Possible Team Melli Call Ups Playing Abroad

[sirvan]

Aside from the obvious issues with our league, another problem is identifying the real talents of the league. Many times we hype up players for them to be no more than 1 or 2 season wonders. Just look at Foolad - during the October camp they were 4-5 points clear at the top of the table and people were complaining why none of their were invited to TM. Fast forward 6-7 weeks and Foolad is now fifth in the league. Although they're only 1 point behind the leaders, the sheer fact that we have 5 teams vying for the top spot doesn't necessarily mean our league is competitive or that those teams are dominant.

If you look at Serie A or La Liga, you can clearly see the likes of Napoli, Juventus, Real, Barca, Athletico, and AS Roma distinguish themselves from others. In the case of our league, regardless of how much talent is in a squad, performances can vary from downright terrible to great. That's the only component of the AFC Champion's League - it's much more representative of how well how our players can actually perform. Daei, with his amateur tactics managed to win 2 Hazfi Cups and finish 4th in the league twice during his first tenure. In contrast, both he and Persepolis were outclassed in the ACL those years.

Around 2011, Ansarifard and Arash Afshin were supposed to lead the new wave of Iranian players. Look at them now. That's why I refuse to fall into the whole Sadeghian/Mosalman/Rahmani hype. If these youngsters want to distinguish themselves, they MUST go to Europe if the chance arises.
Hasegawa, like Beitashour, was recently invited to the Japanese National Team but not capped. This is already an achievement considering that the majority of the Japanese team is made up of legionnaires. Hasegawa's call-up is a sign that he is among the stand-out players of the J-League. If he can impress Zacheroni to the point where he can get a call-up, then capping him is a necessity for the potential depth which he can add to our midfield.

First of all if we as a nation want to become big in football (or any other field f that matter) we must think big. So it is already an achievement when Steven Beitashour or Aria Hasegawa get one call up for their nation? With this kind of mentality we as a nation will get nowhere, not in football nor in anything else.

And as far as Bakhtiar Rahmani and co distinguishing themselves in Europe, how do you suppose they get a chance in Europe? Just like how Mahdavikia and co did, by playing for their national team! No scout in Europe is following Foulad or any other team in IPL, the talented Iranian players like Bakhtiar Rahmani, Payam Sadeghian, and co should get their chance in TM, it's their right! No sir, by calling up second tier players who play abroad just because they grew up there, Iran as a football nation will go nowhere. Ofcourse the ones that really are talented and add quality like Dejagah and Gucci should play for TM by being tested first. But i couldn't agree less with your message, this petty/small mentality will not lead to greatness.

I rather call up Ezzatollahi who has massive talent and potential, than a average 25 year old player, playing for a mid table team with little growth in him, and who is just not good enough to come near the Japanese national team, Japan an Asian rival with whom we (desire to) compete for dominance in Asian football.

[Khashayar R]

First of all if we as a nation want to become big in football (or any other field f that matter) we must think big. So it is already an achievement when Steven Beitashour or Aria Hasegawa get one call up for their nation? With this kind of mentality we as a nation will get nowhere, not in football nor in anything else.

And as far as Bakhtiar Rahmani and co distinguishing themselves in Europe, how do you suppose they get a chance in Europe? Just like how Mahdavikia and co did, by playing for their national team! No scout in Europe is following Foulad or any other team in IPL, the talented Iranian players like Bakhtiar Rahmani, Payam Sadeghian, and co should get their chance in TM, it's their right! No sir, by calling up second tier players who play abroad just because they grew up there, Iran as a football nation will go nowhere. Ofcourse the ones that really are talented and add quality like Dejagah and Gucci should play for TM by being tested first. But i couldn't agree less with your message, this petty/small mentality will not lead to greatness.

I rather call up Ezzatollahi who has massive talent and potential, than a average 25 year old player, playing for a mid table team with little growth in him, and who is just not good enough to come near the Japanese national team, Japan an Asian rival with whom we (desire to) compete for dominance in Asian football.

Perfectly said.

[Kiarash]

[GoIran]

I rather call up Ezzatollahi who has massive talent and potential, than a average 25 year old player, playing for a mid table team with little growth in him, and who is just not good enough to come near the Japanese national team, Japan an Asian rival with whom we (desire to) compete for dominance in Asian football.

As I said, Japan's midfield is much better than Iran. Let's face it, Dejagah would have been benched for Japan. Aria can help TM.

[Camran khan]

if im not wrong he was tested by an iranian club but they thought he wasnt good enough.

[iranghahreman]

according to wiki his dad is iranian and his mother is japanese, then how come he has a japanese last name?

[KeonKish]

Re: Possible Team Melli Call Ups Playing Abroad

I think u dont know people in Iran. They would get really angry if an player with afghan roots would play in National team!
Iranian hate afghans and afghans hate iranian! Thats a rule. So he will never play for TM.

Excuse me? It would be nice if you wouldn't speak on behalf of our people. Perhaps you and your circles are bi-kelas and don't like afghans. But Farsi speaking afghans (Tajiks) have always treated me like a brother and we acknowledge the fact that we are one people! So please do not create tensions where kindness is needed!

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[K. Nader]

First of all if we as a nation want to become big in football (or any other field f that matter) we must think big.

1. So it is already an achievement when Steven Beitashour or Aria Hasegawa get one call up for their nation?

2. With this kind of mentality we as a nation will get nowhere, not in football nor in anything else.

And as far as Bakhtiar Rahmani and co distinguishing themselves in Europe, how do you suppose they get a chance in Europe? Just like how Mahdavikia and co did, by playing for their national team! No scout in Europe is following Foulad or any other team in IPL, the talented Iranian players like Bakhtiar Rahmani, Payam Sadeghian, and co should get their chance in TM, it's their right! No sir, by calling up second tier players who play abroad just because they grew up there, Iran as a football nation will go nowhere. Ofcourse the ones that really are talented and add quality like Dejagah and Gucci should play for TM by being tested first. But i couldn't agree less with your message, this petty/small mentality will not lead to greatness.

I rather call up Ezzatollahi who has massive talent and potential, than a average 25 year old player, playing for a mid table team with little growth in him, and who is just not good enough to come near the Japanese national team, Japan an Asian rival with whom we (desire to) compete for dominance in Asian football.

1. Not an achievement but rather an improvement.

2. Our footballing structure is in shambles. Our Federation is incompetent, and the surrounding figures are corrupt. There are very, very few people within the system that actually care to improve our football (and even fewer who have the knowledge and credentials to do so).

3. Jahanbakhsh, Azmoun, and Ezatollahi have all distinguished themselves at a younger age than the mentioned players and none played a Senior TM match before moving to Europe. They showcased their abilities in the youth National Teams. Just two years ago, we were supposed to have a star-studded Olympic Team with the likes of Ansarifard, Hajsafi, Afshin, Mosalman, Aliasgari, etc. Even though that team boasted most of the 'up-and-coming' talent of the IPL at the time, they failed to do anything. Of course, there was that whole red card ordeal but their performance in the previous match was nothing to write home about.

4. The bottom line is, the majority of your 'prospects' care less about football than they do about their pockets. You're like the parent that refuses to punish their child despite their wrong-doings. You can say I have a weak or petty mentality (or any other creative adjectives while you're at it) but this is the reality of our league and our players. Most come in, demand top dollar, and play to the lowest possible standard.

Here's a fun bit for you. As you know, Omid Nazari plays in the Swedish second division and given my weak/petty mentality, I must be a fool to want him in Team Melli. Guess what - at some point, Royanian had said he wanted to bring him to Persepolis. Had he come and performed well there, would he suddenly be that much more deserving of a TM spot?

The problem with your thinking is that you think under the current circumstances, we can become a consistent Asian powerhouse. However, in our culture in the modern world - whether you like it or not - most Iranians want to get things done with the least amount of effort. In Iran, football is political in every sense and a tool to drive forward the careers of goons in the background. Luckily these goons haven't sabotaged some of our other sports, hence allowing them to progressively flourish.

Change has to start from the roots and as it stands, that's NOT going to happen. Queiroz wanted to implement some changes since he arrived but he himself has realized that it's impossible to deal with the figures in our football (hence his aggressive tone most of the time). Identifying that the system won't change and the quality of the league has remained poor, he's opted to look for professionals elsewhere. I commend and fully support him in this regard. If that's having a petty mentality, so be it.

[K. Nader]

Do you guys really want someone with the name Jasuru Hasegawa on the back of his Team Melli-shirt?
I certainly DON'T.

Pathetic.

[Kiarash]

Do you guys really want someone with the name Jasuru Hasegawa on the back of his Team Melli-shirt?
I certainly DON'T.

Do you guys really want someone on PFDC who writes off a player just because of his last name? I certainly DON'T.

[Khashayar R]

Re: Possible Team Melli Call Ups Playing Abroad

Do you guys really want someone on PFDC who writes off a player just because of his last name? I certainly DON'T.

I don't have anything against the guy, I just don't want someone with that sort of name in TM. But that's just my personal opinion.

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[Tehranto]

I don't have anything against the guy, I just don't want someone with that sort of name in TM. But that's just my personal opinion.

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Hair, Tattoos, last names etc.

We Iranians are just so superficial. Who the hell cares? If he plays well and loves representing Iran, I could give two craps what his last name, tattoos or hair is like.

[Dreamer]

Do you guys really want someone with the name Jasuru Hasegawa on the back of his Team Melli-shirt?
I certainly DON'T.

wtf? I'm certainly glad you're not in charge.

[Kiarash]

I don't have anything against the guy, I just don't want someone with that sort of name in TM. But that's just my personal opinion.

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Then what should his name be? Mohammad Rahman Mohammadi Abdul Ahmad?

Stop this nonsense ASAP

[Nokhodi]

They would probably use his dad's last name anyways.