GN and thuggery?

[mehdiKia15]

GN and thuggery?

Professional league...who the hell says irans league is professional.R u people crazy or what hahaha


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As pointed out on Navad, GN's case was heard by the wrong committee and was against FIFA regulations.

Their is an appeal being processes for the case, but I doubt it will go anywhere.

The latest is, GN has now complained against Nekounam. But Nekounam is saying that everything has already been proven and that GN's friends took money from players. He will not let this go and continue with his complaint, unline Rahmati he folded very quick.

http://isna.ir/fa/news/93070201392/و...یی

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نکونام همچنین گفته است: من اینقدر جرات دارم که حرف*هایم را در همان زمان بزنم، نه در آینده..

HAHAHA. Is that why he waited until after the transfer deadline (and after GN didn't pick him for SS) that he went public with the accusations?

[ehsan singapore]

we all know that band bazi in iran is normal and i am sure GN or his supporters have accepted money, i know dalals accept, and give a portion of it to coaches

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we all know that band bazi in iran is normal and i am sure GN or his supporters have accepted money, i know dalals accept, and give a portion of it to coaches

The same things exist in Europe, except they have different names. "Dalals" are called "Agents". "Mafias" are called "agency/networks".
There are a ton of similar examples of these types of things that happen all over Europe.

Here is the documentary revolving around Sir Alex Ferguson and his son Jason Ferguson. btw Sir Alex boycotted the BBC for 7 years b/c of this documentary.
In fact Ferguson was well known for kicking people out at press conferences. Banning them all together etc.

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This made the front pages today. GN attacks SS legend Hassan Rowshan. Rowshan responds by bringing up everything from "Ali" attacking reporters to GN's family attacking SS/TM players like Sadeghi.

GN said that Rowshan should know his place and know the limits of how much he should talk. This after Rowhsan criticized the way SS was playing starting in week 3, before SS's 3 consecutive losses.

Funniest line is when Rowshan responds to GN saying he should know the limits of his speech by saying: "My speech is limited to my level of literacy, but I am not like those that say "kole yown" or "ruzhaye Fifa day"...


Two things are interesting here:

1. There is a huge divide between the old SS generation and the new one. This was at its height when Naser Hejazi was still alive.

2. GN's continuous thuggish behavior is not being forgotten by even the most celebrated SS players and is further dividing the rift.


http://farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13930707000674


http://farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13930707000674

روشن: قلعه*نویی در حدی نیست که بگوید من حدم را بدانم/ آقایان کل یوم و ۳۶۰ درجه را فراموش کرده*اند؟پیشکسوت باشگاه استقلال گفت: من هر چقدر که بخواهم حرف می*زنم و قلعه*نویی هم در حدی نیست که بخواهد من حد و حدودم را بدانم.

وی در پایان گفت: قلعه*نویی به تیمش بچسبد و در زمین حرف بزند چرا که او در حد و اندازه من نیست و باید حد مرا بداند و بعد صحبت کند.[/url]

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we all know that band bazi in iran is normal and i am sure GN or his supporters have accepted money, i know dalals accept, and give a portion of it to coaches

The worst part is, they accept money in return for starting positions. Aside from a few, why are none of our current footballers from the lower class anymore? Because they don't have enough $$ to buy their way onto teams.

This not only destroys our clubs, but our national team as well.

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The same things exist in Europe, except they have different names. "Dalals" are called "Agents". "Mafias" are called "agency/networks".
There are a ton of similar examples of these types of things that happen all over Europe.

Really? Agents accept bribes and guarantee starting positions on teams? And this is a widespread problem in European leagues?

See, in Iran we also have agents. They are paid a portion of a players' contract. But in Iran we also have dallals, that are middle men working between agents and managers that can offer players starting positions on teams.

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Really? Agents accept bribes and guarantee starting positions on teams? And this is a widespread problem in European leagues?

See, in Iran we also have agents. They are paid a portion of a players' contract. But in Iran we also have dallals, that are middle men working between agents and managers that can offer players starting positions on teams.

Yes they do. Teams do them all the time. Here is a current example:

AC Milan French defender Philippe Mexes has 4 million euro salary. This makes him the 5th most expensive player in the Seria A (tied with Buffon, Vidal, Torres and even ahead of Pirlo). AC Milan doesn't think he's worth the salary even though they had agreed to pay him that when he originally signed with them. So they proposed to him that he cuts his salary in half and give him a 1 year extension. So instead of 1 year (4 million euro) they offered 2 years (2 million euro/year). Mexes obviously said no. And the club is punishing him by keeping him off the field. He has not played even one game yet (they have allowed 9 goals in 5 matches).

Basically, they have offered the guy big money to come and now they are trying to force him to accept less money. Imagine if GN or SS did something like that. Iranian Media Mafia would be all over it.

Money plays a big deal in European football. Clubs do these type of things all the time. I remember they even did the same thing with Mahdavikia in Frankfort towards the end of his Bundesliga days.

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Btw Lets not forget clubs with Israeli coaches that don't allow Iranian goal score machines to even play 1 minute for them.

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Yes they do. Teams do them all the time. Here is a current example:
AC Milan French defender Philippe Mexes has 4 million euro salary. This makes him the 5th most expensive player in the Seria A (tied with Buffon, Vidal, Torres and even ahead of Pirlo). AC Milan doesn't think he's worth the salary even though they had agreed to pay him that when he originally signed with them. So they proposed to him that he cuts his salary in half and give him a 1 year extension. So instead of 1 year (4 million euro) they offered 2 years (2 million euro/year). Mexes obviously said no. And the club is punishing him by keeping him off the field. He has not played even one game yet (they have allowed 9 goals in 5 matches).
Basically, they have offered the guy big money to come and now they are trying to force him to accept less money. Imagine if GN or SS did something like that. Iranian Media Mafia would be all over it.
Money plays a big deal in European football. Clubs do these type of things all the time. I remember they even did the same thing with Mahdavikia in Frankfort towards the end of his Bundesliga days.

That's not an example of a bribe being accepted and a starting position being guaranteed. Nor does it suggest a widespread problem across European leagues.

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Btw Lets not forget clubs with Israeli coaches that don't allow Iranian goal score machines to even play 1 minute for them.

I don't think that is true either. The only player we had that played under an Israeli coach was Gucci at Standard Liege. He played more than 1 minute for them and scored 4 goals in 10 appearances.

Unless you are talking about someone else?

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I don't think that is true either. The only player we had that played under an Israeli coach was Gucci at Standard Liege. He played more than 1 minute for them and scored 4 goals in 10 appearances.

Unless you are talking about someone else?

Most of that came in the 2012-2013 season. When the Israeli guy came (I'm not sure why you are defending him), he pretty much never used Gucci. Peanut minutes here and there. He was driven out of the club for sure. Imagine if GN did something massively racist like that. The Iranian Media Mafia would be all over it.

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Most of that came in the 2012-2013 season. When the Israeli guy came (I'm not sure why you are defending him), he pretty much never used Gucci. Peanut minutes here and there. He was driven out of the club for sure. Imagine if GN did something massively racist like that. The Iranian Media Mafia would be all over it.

I'm not defending him, I just don't accept what you said as he played more than a minute.

I also don't think if Gucci paid a bribe to a dallal that he would've been able to play more minutes.