GN and thuggery?

[Leopard]

GN once failed as TM coach and he lost Asian cup for stupid multiple offside reasons ofone of his players.
Anyway the recent noise he has made was to make IFF to choose him and it shows he has wanted to be in place of CQ . is it for salary or glory which he could not ever achieve.

But to make him quiet here is an answer that everyone can give him and he will close his mouth forever.

Mr. GN you are right CQ should not have complained about Asian Cup referees and he should have kept his mouth shut and we would have won the cup, and you would have stayed calm and you would have won the cup. Now, you have to stop saying anything bad about IPl referees. In fact you Daei and some other coaches kept on complaining every year about IPL referees and this is what CQ picked up and learned from you.

[K. Nader]

GN said that CQ should not have complained about the referee? Isn't GN the same clown that got sent to the stands in our first game in AC2007 and was then suspended for the second match against China? What a tool.

[persian-eagle-13]

this football makes me sick to my stomach. in a real world the type of GN would be working in a maydooneh miveh, now this guy is running the show in iran hich vaght khabesh ro ham nemedid

[clipsport]

GN would have at least taken TM to Semis.

The fact that our team broke down mentally and tactically after going down 1 player against that weak Iraqi team is entirely CQ's fault.

[clipsport]

And to top it off, instead of being a man and taking responsibility for the loss he immediately comes on Iranian TV and blames the referee, Mr. Ghalenoei, Mr. Derakhshan, etc.
After GN lost to South Korea in Asian Cup he came and faced the music. He sat in front of 3 harsh critics and got roasted on live TV. I respect him for that.

CQ gave an interview with Keyroshipour and was praised more than criticized in it. Then he goes on vacation again while the league is still active.

[Amin_]

He's basically full of oghdeh. That's it. I red an interview with Simoes (former Iran assistant coach ) yesterday on Fars. I remember GN always talked positively about him. In this interview, Simeos said that GN thinks that Coaching National team of Iran should be his.

The problem is that he still believes that he got way too much shit from both the media and the fans than some other coaches, despite having a better track record compared to some of them. That's why he keeps comparing himself to X and Y and in one of his interviews in 90 a long time ago he kept saying how under his reign we remained undefeated (not counting the PKSO against Korea) and that we had a +20 or so GD etc. etc.

He should just learn to let it go and stop comparing himself to other coaches. It's the same with MK, who every once in a while feels the need to remind everyone how he, more than 2 decades ago, "revolutionized" TM and introduced many new talents and all that. Or with Daei who keeps falling into a victim role all the time and blames the whole world for his own shortcoming. Or like...basically 99% of our domestic coaches.


That being said, I must say that the main culprit is IFF for appointing the likes of GN, Daei and Ghotbi in the first place. Coaching TM is the biggest honor for any domestic coach, so you possibly can't expect any coach to decline the offer once they're asked for the job. Whether they made right or wrong choices in terms of tactics or player selection is another thing, but coaches have to make choices and it's impossible to keep everyone happy anyway.

[rugs]

GN had no business being near TM to begin with. His whole tenure started off with controversy and continued till the end. He was appointed illegally and FIFA suspended Iran's FF for it. So he got the job most likely the same way he gets other things, bribes and threats.

But his biggest problem, aside from a horrific international record, is that he is not a leader and doesn't command any respect from players. When you are a low class know nothing manager, you cannot yell and scream and expect respect.

Just to show how bad of a NT manager he was, one needs only to look at his winning % compared to Branko's.

They had their pick of the same players, aside from a 36 year old Daei, whereas Branko picked the best we had to offer, GN picked the likes of Fekri, Khatibi, Enayati and other players loyal to his mafia.

Branko 69.05% (42 games played!)

GN 58.82% (in only 17 games!)


GN took a world cup team, one of our best teams ever, and destroyed it.

[clipsport]

^ in only 17 matches? do you realize that a larger sample size would reflect a more accurate statistic. So I'm not sure why you are saying "in only 17 games!". Perhaps if GN's team played in WAFF tournaments he would get a higher win percentage. It would actually be 63.63% had GN coaches the "B" team in WAFF 2007.

btw CQ has a 53.19% win percentage. Compare this to Afshin Ghotbi who had the same (53.33) but without Dejagah, Gucci, Jahanbakhsh, etc.

Also lets ignore GN's Domestic records. He clearly got all those good results though yelling, cursing, bribery, threats, and perhaps some pimping and pampering.

[rugs]

^exactly. That would explain his horrible international record.

Pretty frightening how bad he ruined one of our best TM's ever. He made the team worse, that's why he was criticized by everyone.

As opposed to CQ, who made our team better.

[Amin_]

Lol Some people think they can just go ahead and spit some shit left and right and get some "thanx's" because they are on the "popular" side of a discussion.

Yes, most of us agree that he had no business being the TM coach back then, but so now he got the job because of threats? Loool Who do you think GN is? Don Corleone or Tony Montana or something?! That he can make some threats and out of fear of repercussion they decided to give him the job?! What's next? He threated to kill the wifes and children of the IFF bosses if they didn't make him the coach?! Lol

And Iran got suspended because of political interference from the Ministry of Sports (or whatever it's called), not. because of appointment of GN or whomever else.

As for respect and authority - yeah we saw how much authority and respect Branko got from the whole WC fiasco where the lack of authority and discipline caused the disaster we all whitnessed.

To remain at that: Branko left a shatterd and completely lost WC squad behind and fled the country (actually was not even man enough to come back to Iran) with his tail between his legs. Because of him insisting on a fat overaged 37 Daei he left us with a void in offense (luckily we did have Hashemian every now and then) and two camps (Karimi and Co. Vs. Daei camp).

As for track record: Next to the fact that we have to consider the strength of the opposition before we blindly follow some stats (Branko was known to be afraid of playing strong opposition), the other fact is that Branko had 4+ years to work with TM (even longer if we count his assistent position as well), while GN had only 1 year!


And throwing in random popular names like Enayati and Khatibi (in this case unpopular names) doesn't make tour case any stronger either! FYI Khatibi and Enayati got invited A LOT by Branko too! Hell, Enayati even saved Branko's ass in the AC against Thailand where he scored the important frist goal against a defense we had trouble penetrating! After his goal Thailand was lost and we were able to walk over them! Enayati made his TM debut in 2002 and had a lot of call ups throughout the years. Branko included Khatibi even in the WC roster, and not only that, he even gave him playing time! Branko insisted on playing Daei in every unsignifcant match. Even our best target striker of that time (Hashemian) had to play on the sides just to make room for Daei in the middle. Ehm... Maffia you said?!


Yes everyone agrees that GN shouldn't have been appointed as the headcoach back then, but please stop with this whole "Maffia" BS please! You're giving GN way too much attention and credit as if he's really somebody. He aint shit! He's just a streetsmart guy inbetween thugs. It's because of people like you and all the attention you give to these morons that they think they are all that and keep running their mouths left and right!

[Z Joon]

Lol Some people think they can just go ahead and spit some shit left and right and get some "thanx's" because they are on the "popular" side of a discussion.

Story of PFDC for few years now Nowadays you're a Kool Kid only if you say that the IPL sux and if you give sh*t to people criticizing CQ .

[Amin_]

Story of PFDC for few years now Nowadays you're a Kool Kid only if you say that the IPL sux and if you give sh*t to people criticizing CQ .

Indeed! For example most of the younger members are not even aware of the fact that "Khatbi and Enayati" had been part of TM for years, way before GN was even well known. Like I said, Enayati made his debut in 2002, even featured in the AC and the important WCQ's! Same as Khatibi, who, like I said, even featured in a WC for God's sake! Hashemian was not available all the time. At least Enayati was the league top scorer and won the championship with Esteghlal in 2005/2006. If I'm not mistaken he also was the top scorer the season before that. Then the year after he kept on scoring and assisting in UAE (around 30 goals in 40 appearances or so).. Hell, even Daei called Enayati up for the WCQ in 2010 at the age of 34 or so! Btw at the AC and the important games our target forward was Hashemian, not Enayati or Khatibi.

[Camran khan]

Lol Some people think they can just go ahead and spit some shit left and right and get some "thanx's" because they are on the "popular" side of a discussion.

It's sad how true this is.

[rugs]

Wait, let me get this straight. People are upset because the "popular" side of the discussion is that GN was a crap coach?

Some people seem to forget what GN tried to do with TM and how he tried to stack it with his players until, the "popular" side, meaning everyone in Iran, questioned his sanity.


TM before GN:



Ebrahim Mirzapour
Hossein Kaebi
Yahya Golmohammadi
Rahman Rezaei
Mohammad Nosrati
Mehdi Mahdavikia
Javad Nekounam Booked 55'
Andranik Teymourian
Ali Karimi
Ali Daei
Vahid Hashemian


TM after GN:



Rahmati
Khanzade
Rezaei
Maniei
Kazemi
Akbarpour
Fekri
Shojaei
Amirabadi
Rajabzadeh
Sadeghi


I believe that is 7 players that never saw TM again.

[Ghermez Agha]

GN would have at least taken TM to Semis.

The fact that our team broke down mentally and tactically after going down 1 player against that weak Iraqi team is entirely CQ's fault.

Mentally and tactically broke down?!?!?!

And then u go and tell other people their posts are "out there"......pas be een dige chi begim?