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    Originally posted by persiangodfather View Post
    I dont give a fcuk about what style you say Iran plays
    in all my life watching Iran that game against Argentina was the most well round and professional performance I have ever seen Iran play
    from 55 min on we were the better team.. vs ARGENTINA
    I totally agree with the statement bro. My issue is that we shouldn't be playing the same style against every opponent though (park the bus and frustrate them for the 1st half and then start some offense). That style should only be used against teams that are perceived to be much stronger than us (as was the case with Argentina).

    But if you go back, we used the exact same style against S. Korea, Nigeria, Argentina and Bosnia. That eventually starts taking over your psyche that every team that you play is so much better than you that you need to revert back to that style. And with that psyche, we'll never get any better.

    I was very hopeful before the WC when we played a few good pressing games in the Austria camp and I thought that alternate strategy would com into play at some point during the WC, but to my absolute shock and unfortunately it never did. To this day, I don't know why.

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      Read the interview below and see why CQ is of so much importance to our football , not just as a coach but as a high profile celebrity coach who attracts the attention of scouts.

      PLDC - Figueira, The following is a short interview with the head coach of Naval: Tiago Raposo.

      How is Taha Zareei fitting in with his teammates?

      Taha is adapting well; he is a social person and has the full desire to learn. Its easy to notice that Taha has quality, and he made the right choice coming to Europe at this age. He will evolve as a goalkeeper with experience.

      Has your perception of Iranian players changed?

      I do not know Iranian football that well, but in regard to the quality of their players, they seem good. Taha has presented a good image for Iranians because he is social, sympathetic and friendly. For me, it has been a positive experience.

      Do you believe your club will promote back to Segunda?

      My goals are realistic. We will always fight because our club has a name in Portugal, and we have quality. We are a growing team. If not this year, we will surely make our way back to Segunda in the near future. Naval is on the rise.

      Did you watch Iran's games in the World Cup?

      Yes. Do not forget that Iran is of interest to us because they were lead by a Portuguese coach (Queiroz). We want to see Iran succeed. Against Argentina, they showed that they have quality, but need to become stronger. I wish the best for Iran.

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        Originally posted by Darloc View Post
        First you say CQ watches every single match of IPL himself then you suggest that this may not be true and his staff might review the IPL games. So which one is it ?

        Seriously this CQ worshipping is getting out of hand, the guy is a pretty good coach imo and the best Iran can get NOW AT THIS MOMENT but to worship the guy like god is so dumb and uncalled for.

        Like that guy said CQ vacations alot and this must stop and he should focus 100% on our football with no other nonesenses.
        the guy himself says he watches every match. go watch his interviews please. and i made an exacmple for if he misses a match or 2, he got his staff that also watch the matches.. either live in the stadium or recorded! now you tell me what iranian coach has done that in the past? do they ever watch all the games? i bet they dont. i can almost be sure that most of them just enjoy the money and for the rest they sit in their home and eat ghormesabzi.

        he did get a lot of vacation i do agree.. BUT with the things he did for the federation to get FREE friendlies before the world cup? i dont mind him taking that much vacation!

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          Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
          I totally agree with the statement bro. My issue is that we shouldn't be playing the same style against every opponent though (park the bus and frustrate them for the 1st half and then start some offense). That style should only be used against teams that are perceived to be much stronger than us (as was the case with Argentina).
          But if you go back, we used the exact same style against S. Korea, Nigeria, Argentina and Bosnia. That eventually starts taking over your psyche that every team that you play is so much better than you that you need to revert back to that style. And with that psyche, we'll never get any better.
          I was very hopeful before the WC when we played a few good pressing games in the Austria camp and I thought that alternate strategy would com into play at some point during the WC, but to my absolute shock and unfortunately it never did. To this day, I don't know why.
          I agree, vs Nigeria and Bosnia we played scared, VS Argentina we played with heart and passion.. those are some fine tuning CQ can do if he has the team longer, he did not have the team very long and this is what he thaught was best, what an improvement from 06 team that was playing offense first half and was finished by the 55th minute.
          All in All CQ is the best coach now for Iran, im not saying he is ancelotti but no other professional coach then him will even consider comming to Iran unless we pay big time and we dont have that kind of money

          AND the game against Korea was perfect strategy, the way he hyped the game up. the way he made Choi into the villan, the way he rallied the troops, how many times did we go into Seoul and come out empty handed?, we Beat Korea in Tehran attractively and we out smart Korea in Seoul, when was the last time Iran outsmart anybody on the pitch?
          WE ARE THE UNDER DOGS

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            Originally posted by persiangodfather View Post
            I dont give a fcuk about what style you say Iran plays
            in all my life watching Iran that game against Argentina was the most well round and professional performance I have ever seen Iran play
            from 55 min on we were the better team.. vs ARGENTINA
            You cannot base an entire 4 year resume based on 35 minutes of football (which we lost anyways). By the way, Bosnia just lost to Cyprus last week. Honestly if we had even the slightest offensive plan against them in the wc, we might have beaten them as well. Bosnia was never as good as we made them out to be. CQ's TM just sucked too much. But Hurry. Lets pay him the millions that he's demanding before Real Madrid and Manchester United sign him.

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                Originally posted by persiangodfather View Post
                those are some fine tuning CQ can do if he has the team longer, he did not have the team very long
                Three years is a pretty LONG time bro. Very few (in comparison) national team coaches have stayed with a team for that long. You should expect to see desirable results after one year IMHO.

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                  Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                  You cannot base an entire 4 year resume based on 35 minutes of football (which we lost anyways). By the way, Bosnia just lost to Cyprus last week. Honestly if we had even the slightest offensive plan against them in the wc, we might have beaten them as well. Bosnia was never as good as we made them out to be. CQ's TM just sucked too much. But Hurry. Lets pay him the millions that he's demanding before Real Madrid and Manchester United sign him.
                  At least we showed 35 minutes of good football under these 4 years, against Argentina. Something Ghalenoei, Krancjar or any IPL-related coach could only dream of! Hence, even making the World Cup for a domestic coach is something very rare!

                  Carlos Queiroz installed some professionalism which was non-existent due to the culture of Iran. He bought one of the best Iranians abroad to TM like Ghoochannejhad and Dejagah, who proved to be vital in our WCQ campaign. Iran became the first of Asia on the FIFA Rankings after years, years! This is the result of 4 years under CQw which is certainly an improvement if you look at our past. Consistency is what we need now, contract extension of CQ is the first step of that. Good results will follow with consistency. Changing coach once a year or every 4 years won't help the situation.

                  Also wanted to add that not a single Iranian abroad would ever join Team Melli under some Faraki or Ghalenoei guy! Like smart people, they look at his attitude and coaching career, something lots of players admire of CQ. With him staying, we have a bright future in terms of Iranian talents playing in Europe joining us soon for the next World Cup Qualifying campaign.

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                    Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                    At least we showed 35 minutes of good football under these 4 years, against Argentina. Something Ghalenoei, Krancjar or any IPL-related coach could only dream of! Hence, even making the World Cup for a domestic coach is something very rare!

                    Carlos Queiroz installed some professionalism which was non-existent due to the culture of Iran. He bought one of the best Iranians abroad to TM like Ghoochannejhad and Dejagah, who proved to be vital in our WCQ campaign. Iran became the first of Asia on the FIFA Rankings after years, years! This is the result of 4 years under CQw which is certainly an improvement if you look at our past. Consistency is what we need now, contract extension of CQ is the first step of that. Good results will follow with consistency. Changing coach once a year or every 4 years won't help the situation.

                    Also wanted to add that not a single Iranian abroad would ever join Team Melli under some Faraki or Ghalenoei guy! Like smart people, they look at his attitude and coaching career, something lots of players admire of CQ. With him staying, we have a bright future in terms of Iranian talents playing in Europe joining us soon for the next World Cup Qualifying campaign.
                    "Joojehara akhareh paiez mishmaran..." We still haven't won anything, and we didn't meet our goal of making it through our group in the WC. While I am pleased it's CQ and not Faraki...let's see what CQ does in AC with a Dejagah who is warming the bench in Qatar, with Gucci who can't score in Kuwait, and a defence line based in Qatar...if CQ's stubborness and arogance get in the way, expect ARJ, Azmoun, Khalatbari all to have minimal roles in favour of Shojaie, Gucci, Dejagah and co who are based in Persian Gulf leagues.
                    Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                      Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                      "Joojehara akhareh paiez mishmaran..." We still haven't won anything, and we didn't meet our goal of making it through our group in the WC. While I am pleased it's CQ and not Faraki...let's see what CQ does in AC with a Dejagah who is warming the bench in Qatar, with Gucci who can't score in Kuwait, and a defence line based in Qatar...if CQ's stubborness and arogance get in the way, expect ARJ, Azmoun, Khalatbari all to have minimal roles in favour of Shojaie, Gucci, Dejagah and co who are based in Persian Gulf leagues.
                      I'm sorry but you arent focusing on my main point. I remember when we all even doubted making the World Cup around June 2013, and we did. The goal of CQ was before he signed, qualification to the World Cup. IFF said that and he also said that, so in fact he already had done his job. On top of that we had a relatively respectable World Cup performance, holding Nigeria and being few minutes away from pulling an upset against Argentina. Two world class teams, and nobody can deny that. Bosnia was another story, I admit CQ made tactical mistakes but if you look at his achievements the past 4 years which I described, positive outweighs the negatives. He is a human too and mistake prone, lets give him another shot at a major tournament and see how he does.

                      I suggest you to watch this video and prove me wrong (this was in 2012):

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                        Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
                        You should expect to see desirable results after one year IMHO.

                        Team v t e
                        Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
                        Iran 8 5 1 2 8 2 +6 16
                        South Korea 8 4 2 2 13 7 +6 14
                        Uzbekistan 8 4 2 2 11 6 +5 14
                        Qatar 8 2 1 5 5 13 −8 7
                        Lebanon 8 1 2 5 3 12 −9 5

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                          Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                          I'm sorry but you arent focusing on my main point. I remember when we all even doubted making the World Cup around June 2013, and we did. The goal of CQ was before he signed, qualification to the World Cup. IFF said that and he also said that, so in fact he already had done his job. On top of that we had a relatively respectable World Cup performance, holding Nigeria and being few minutes away from pulling an upset against Argentina. Two world class teams, and nobody can deny that. Bosnia was another story, I admit CQ made tactical mistakes but if you look at his achievements the past 4 years which I described, positive outweighs the negatives. He is a human too and mistake prone, lets give him another shot at a major tournament and see how he does.
                          This is a debate of whether the glass is half full or half empty. We qualified for the WC, so what? We also had one of the lowest possession percentages in the entire history of the WC?! We also had a match that was rated as the most boring to watch. We scored 1 goal in 3 matches. We had more stars transfer to Qatar than stay in Europe...which after every previous WC the opposite was true...so while we Iranians were satisfied, seems like the Europeans didn't really feel the same way, at least not enough to invest in our players. Of course the Qataris liked our performance...lol

                          For me, if CQ fails to get Iran in top 3 or 4 in AC, he needs to go. I see no point investing in a coach who so far hasn't believed in TM and it's players enough to want to attack. Can you imagine playing like that against Australia, Japan, and SK? Well technically we played ultra defensive against SK in Qualifying and had a Gucci miracle steal and strike save us. Don't forget, if in SK we were 1 goal away from not making it...same thing as 2010, except this time the verdict was for us.
                          Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                            Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                            We qualified for the WC, so what?
                            The World Cup is something many countries dream of, only the best 32 can make it. We were part of it, so it's prestigious to be there as a whole. Besides, where were we in 2010?

                            Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                            We had more stars transfer to Qatar than stay in Europe...which after every previous WC the opposite was true...so while we Iranians were satisfied, seems like the Europeans didn't really feel the same way, at least not enough to invest in our players. Of course the Qataris liked our performance...lol
                            Very strange you bring this up. You do realize CQ has no control of this and its rather lack of ambition by our players? Dejagah had plenty of offers from Europe, instead of that he moved to Qatar for Arab money. Nobody forced him to go there, but his interests were making money rather than staying in Europe. I wonder what this has to do with CQ? Same goes for Ghoochannejhad, he could have stayed at Charlton and play Championship football and nothing wrong with that. CQ has no influence of career decisions of players. He is a coach, not a personal manager.

                            Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                            For me, if CQ fails to get Iran in top 3 or 4 in AC, he needs to go. I see no point investing in a coach who so far hasn't believed in TM and it's players enough to want to attack. Can you imagine playing like that against Australia, Japan, and SK? Well technically we played ultra defensive against SK in Qualifying and had a Gucci miracle steal and strike save us. Don't forget, if in SK we were 1 goal away from not making it...same thing as 2010, except this time the verdict was for us.
                            Rest assured CQ would have been gone long time ago if he didn't believe in our football. He knew he would drag himself into a shitty federation with no help of the government and yet after 4 years he is even open for contract extension! If this, and many other examples still not convince people of his faith in Iranian football then I think you miss some huge insight.

                            The luck-card is really getting annoying. Throughout our entire WC-campaign it was well deserved to qualify for the World Cup. Topping the group with 16 points is not luck, its called a fair and square result. The same can't be said about 2010, where we didn't deserve to qualify at all.

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                              Originally posted by Kiarash View Post
                              The World Cup is something many countries dream of, only the best 32 can make it. We were part of it, so it's prestigious to be there as a whole. Besides, where were we in 2010?
                              Here is the flaw in your argument. You believe Iran is one of the best 32...but the fact is, the best 32 do not make the WC. The top countries in their designated continents make it...and because of this thinking, many Iranians feel CQ made us into one of the best 32 nations...when in reality we are far from it. In fact, I am willing to bet, if the best 32 made it, 25-30 of the teams would come from Europe and S. America, and maybe 5-7 from Central/N. America and Africa...no Asian team would make it. Has CQ really helped us progress? I would argue not, because in Asia you saw, we went up and held the # 1 FIFA ranking despite not playing a match.

                              Citing WC qualification, FIFA rankings, etc are all flawed, because in Asia, on any day, you can be sure that only 4-6 countries have a chance of qualifying. Stick us in Europe, and then tell me is Iran better than WC non-qualifers Sweden, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Serbia, Poland, and countless others? I doubt it.
                              Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                                No one other than CQ would've brought on Gucci and started him in our most desperate matches that put us through to the WC.

                                1. Other coaches don't have the courage to do such a thing and will stick with what they know (BI - Daei, GN - Enayati, Khatibi, Daei - Khalili, Rezaei)...

                                2. They have no eye for talent


                                I think those questioning what CQ has done simply have not followed Iranian football all that long and probably to not remember what a disaster our team was under GN, Daei and Ghotbi. They probably don't remember that we couldn't beat N. Korea or that we had a 36 year old who never started in TM start as our sweeper. Or that in our team had all sorts of locker room problems. Or that our team was stacked with SS players simply because GN was SS. Or that our team was fed Saipa players simply because loyalty and not merit. Or that every other manager was some lazy hack that didn't feel the need to put any effort into scouting or attracting talent.

                                What's funny is that the only people critical of CQ are the ones who benefited from the unorganized, party-bazi laden atmosphere of TM in the past.

                                No one is saying CQ is a magician and will make us world champions, those with level heads have level headed expectations and realize that before anything we need to modernize and professionalize our football before we can move forward. And if that means paying millions to CQ, then so be it. He has proven that that is the least of what he can do. Anything on top of that is like a little tadig on the side of a delicious meal.
                                راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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