Steven Beitashour @ Vancouver Whitecaps | 2014-2015 - NEW

[Z Joon]

1. I haven't seen that. People will bring up players in different leagues and at most suggest that they should have a shot at TM. Like Atashkadeh or Shapourzadeh. I don't see anyone saying these players belong in TM. And they play in a much higher league than Slovakia's 3rd division. People say the same about IPL players too all the time, so I don't see how it is any more strange when they player plays abroad.

2. I disagree that a talented and skilled player remains a good player. Just look at Rahmati. If not then look at Nikbakht, Zare, Madanchi, Kazemian..... and the list goes on an on.

3. Again I disagree. You can say they are products of Iran, but the Nekounam we know is a product of La Liga, not IPL. Azmoun is a product of the Russian league. Jahanbaksh is a product of the Dutch league. These leagues allowed these players to define themselves and advance. If they stayed in the IPL, they would be like the names I already mentioned.

4. Then you are ignoring the integrity of the foreign leagues. Nothing should be taken away from Davari because he was born in Germany. He still had to compete against other keepers. And people do freak out about IPL keepers like Lak for example. I myself freak out about Beiranvand and think he is great.

5. That's your opinion. But the fact is, Sadeghian is not playing in a top league and has discipline issues. When he gets to a top league then we can talk about ignoring those issues. Our country is Iran and we have players playing in good leagues. If Sadeghian wanted to I'm sure he could easily work hard and follow the likes of Azmoun, Jahanbakhsh, Ezzatollahi, etc... But maybe he prefers to stay in Iran and be an IPL celebrity instead. But again, this is all a matter of opinion.

6. I say what I said before, those players are a product of Iran, not IPL. They are a product of the leagues they came up in. Products of the IPL are: Nikbakht, Kazemian, Enayati, Rajabzadeh, etc...

I think you should look at it from this perspective: the players abroad, like Davari and Beita were good enough to play in the leagues they are playing in. That statement alone should suffice as we never say things like "Jahanbakhksh was definitely good enough to play in the IPL"... But we do say "Jahanbakhsh is definitely good enough to play in the Dutch league".

How do you know our team will not improve with Nazari or Hasegawa or any other player out there? Even I don't say our team will not improve with Sadeghia. Who knows maybe it will. However we can use present examples to show that the presence of foreign based players has not hurt our youth and has even improved it. I believe is CQ didn't put so much stress on foreign leagues, players like Ezzatollahi and Jahanbakhsh would not have moved.

Aghaye rugs, I respect your opinion but we are turning in circles. It's incredible how you say these guys are not products of the IPL, Jahanbakhsh, Azmoun ect have all been formed and created by their academies. They are products of their academies and teams, and therefore the league. The Eredivisie and other leagues acquire these players because they see the talent already and I stress on already, in them, otherwise they would have never bought them. It is how it is, however you want to see it, these guys are all products of the IPL, and they get developed and develop their talents with their European teams. However you want to call it, products of Iran, products of the IPL, means the same for me, as they come from Iran and start competing in the IPL. The talent pool is the IPL and the academies like Zob Ahan or Sepahan's. I think it's clear enough and nothing more needs to be said.

But the discussion is starting to take too much time for absolutely nothing and it's boring me so ba ejaze man kenar mizanam

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Aghaye rugs, I respect your opinion but we are turning in circles. It's incredible how you say these guys are not products of the IPL, Jahanbakhsh, Azmoun ect have all been formed and created by their academies. They are products of their academies and teams, and therefore the league. The Eredivisie and other leagues acquire these players because they see the talent already and I stress on already, in them, otherwise they would have never bought them. It is how it is, however you want to see it, these guys are all products of the IPL, and they get developed and develop their talents with their European teams. However you want to call it, products of Iran, products of the IPL, means the same for me, as they come from Iran and start competing in the IPL. The talent pool is the IPL and the academies like Zob Ahan or Sepahan's. I think it's clear enough and nothing more needs to be said.
But the discussion is starting to take too much time for absolutely nothing and it's boring me so ba ejaze man kenar mizanam

As you wish. But I mentioned before, talent is just part of what a player needs. That is why the players are not a product of IPL. IPL didn't give them their talent.

Nekounam may have been talented, but it was in La Liga where he developed in the player he is. A player that not only has talent, but discipline, work ethic, team mentality, and the list goes on and on....

These things do not exist in the IPL aside for the rare occasion like Haj Safi.

Again, talent is only part of being a player.

[aenima_8]

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[aenima_8]

Vancouver Whitecaps face Seattle away at 10PM EST today.

[Clockwork]

Whitecaps will probably get crushed today but they can win their next two games and secure a spot in the MLS 4-5 match for the playoff spot.

[Clockwork]

1-0 Whitecaps right before the half!

[Karimi 8]

Second half just started I missed the first half. Hoping whitecaps hold the lead and see a good performance from beitashour

[Clockwork]

Beitashour has played as one of the best so far. Barely any mistakes. Seattle will be pushing for a goal soon enough.
Whitecaps doing a good job being organized. They have neutralized Dempsey and Martins. Dempsey got a yellow for pushing beitashour while he cleared a cross with his head and gave the ref sarcastic claps which earned him a yellow card.

[Karimi 8]

Beitashour has been playing aggressively and has been good at getting back and moving forward for most of what I've seen

[Karimi 8]

Whitecaps with a crucial 1-0 win over their rivals Seattle (There was some grass rolling tho lol) Also they won some cup called Cascadia, not too sure what it is or its significance to be honest

[Clockwork]

Beitashour played a near perfect game. Very balanced and composed. Great passing and clearing the ball by head or foot. He sometimes gives the opposing winger too much space just like how we've seen in his Iran games. On one occasion he proved me wrong though and was able to back track quickly enough to intercept the pass which would have lead to a close range shot on goal.
This win puts La Galaxy in control of taking the regular season cup if they clinch their final games

[Karimi 8]

Beitashour played a near perfect game. Very balanced and composed. Great passing and clearing the ball by head or foot. He sometimes gives the opposing winger too much space just like how we've seen in his Iran games. On one occasion he proved me wrong though and was able to back track quickly enough to intercept the pass which would have lead to a close range shot on goal.

This win puts La Galaxy in control of taking the regular season cup if the clinch their final games.

I agree with you, his only negative that i saw today was that he gives too much space on 1 on 1's, he almost invites them to challenge him in a way. Hard to explain

[KC McElroy]

Once again Mehrdad emerges as man of the match. Thank you for being Iranian.

[irani8perspolis]

now if he only learned farsi he would make me 1000x more proud, anyway great game by estevie, as the commentator said at the end of the game, one of the biggest wins in whitecaps franchise history

[Ghermez Agha]

now if he only learned farsi he would make me 1000x more proud, anyway great game by estevie, as the commentator said at the end of the game, one of the biggest wins in whitecaps franchise history

He does speak Farsi....