Steven Beitashour @ Vancouver Whitecaps | 2014-2015 - NEW

[Z Joon]

thanks for making my day at least! you saying beita is comparable to mahini and heydari really got me rolling on the floor laughing
now i know where ur logic comes from.

The difference between you and me is that you speak emotionally as if Steven is your brother, I speak rationally without bias.
I would give all three players an average of 6 out of 10 for their latest performances for TM since 2013. So yeah, completely comparable for me, and until Steven shows an outstanding performance contributing vastly to the team, I suggest you to refrain yourself from questioning my logic.

[saadat_abad]

The difference between you and me is that you speak emotionally as if Steven is your brother, I speak rationally without bias.
I would give all three players an average of 6 out of 10 for their latest performances for TM since 2013. So yeah, completely comparable for me, and until Steven shows an outstanding performance contributing vastly to the team, I suggest you to refrain yourself from questioning my logic.

lets take steven out for a sec. are you saying mahini and heydari are comparable?

[Camran khan]

thanks for making my day at least! you saying beita is comparable to mahini and heydari really got me rolling on the floor laughing
now i know where ur logic comes from.

Come on bro, not saying that Steven is really bad compared to the other, but you can't really say that Heydari is much better than Steven, and you can't say that Steven is much better than Heydari.

[saadat_abad]

Come on bro, not saying that Steven is really bad compared to the other, but you can't really say that Heydari is much better than Steven, and you can't say that Steven is much better than Heydari.

im saying AT THE MOMENT steven is better than heydari. At the moment anyone at the RB spot is better than heydari. all heydari does is run with his head down and sends a useless cross in. he is slow and cannot keep up with opponents. just watch back the SK game.

[Camran khan]

im saying AT THE MOMENT steven is better than heydari. At the moment anyone at the RB spot is better than heydari. all heydari does is run with his head down and sends a useless cross in. he is slow and cannot keep up with opponents. just watch back the SK game.

Well that I understand, what I questioned was the fact that you started rolling on the floor when hearing someone compare Beita with Heydari/Mahini, which IMO is not a ridiculous comparison at all. I personally find Heydari better than Beita, when having their TM games in mind (Beita's games vs Thailand and Lebanon). That you think Beita is better is also fine, that is a difference of opinion, however laughing when comparing the, making one of them look absolutely superior to the other, is not fine IMO.

[saadat_abad]

Well that I understand, what I questioned was the fact that you started rolling on the floor when hearing someone compare Beita with Heydari/Mahini, which IMO is not a ridiculous comparison at all. I personally find Heydari better than Beita, when having their TM games in mind (Beita's games vs Thailand and Lebanon). That you think Beita is better is also fine, that is a difference of opinion, however laughing when comparing the, making one of them look absolutely superior to the other, is not fine IMO.

you cant really compare heydari/beita/mahini. let me tell you why. heydari has had tons of caps, more playing time, you know his flaws and etc. same with mahini ( has lots of flaws) beita has not had many caps, so if you want to compare him to the alternative RB's, you would have to look at his club games. if we are going to compare beitas club games to heydari/mahinis international games, then yes, im going to roll on the floor and laugh my ass off.

[ali alipour]

There isnt even a place for beitashour
If queiroz wants a defensive right back Montazeri is better
If queiroz wants an offensive right back Heidari or Ghafouri are better
Beitashour might make the squad but highly doubtful he would get any playing time once again

[Abbas85]

We have much better home grown players to have this over-rated chump take a spot from an iranian guy that earned his by outcompeting all other defenders in IPL instead of simply being the only Iranian guy to play in MLS. gimme a break.

[Afat11]

IPL>MLS. Can I have a thank you, clipsport? We all know the investment, infrastructure, big names (Enayati and Borhani anyone?), and just overall quality in IPL is 10 to 15 times better than MLS. I had my mathematician Dr. Farghoozi come in, and he calculated that Ghafouri, who has a 2 1/2 x3 quotient of playing quality is better than Beitashour who has a 1 1/2 x 4 to the negative 4th power quotient. Don't get me started with Heydari, he's a 3 2/3 minus 10 to the 12th power!! So it's not even a question. Enayati is the best choice. It's simple guys, and nobody can argue with me because it's so plain and the answers are so clear.

On a serious note, I love how Ghafouri has 1 TM cap, but people are already saying he's lightyears ahead of Beitashour. Why are all of you against giving Beitashour more than 3 tries in actual games to see his quality? You've obviously been sucking on Ghafouri's teet like he is the Messiah with only watching 1 TM game, do you think you all might all be a little reactionary? I can argue with you all until the end, but anyone in their right mind saying a player working to be the best in IPL is far ahead of a guy who was an MLS all-star playing a good game against Bayern Munich 2 years ago should be shining shoes of a guy helping Foolad beat Gostaresh is just ridiculous.

Clipsport has some doodool envy, but the rest of you are just xenophobes. I really should have kept that log of all of Dejagah and Gucci's haters and made a post of all of the PFDC hypocrites who are now sucking Gucci's **** after bashing him as some piece of crap compared to the almighty choices in IPL! Enayati could have made those clutch goals! He's the perpetual top-scorer in IPL!

Oh, and when the best player in your league is a foreigner like Edinho, while the MLS has arguably the best Australian player (Tim Cahill) and legends like Thierry Henry, Landon Donovan and other quality players, please don't write them off like the entire league are ball-boys.

But maybe I'm just Americanized because I don't blindly suck off anything Iranian like some of you who say IPL is so great then turn around and complain why players don't leave to Europe and why our teams lose to Saudi teams in ACL.

[saadat_abad]

IPL>MLS. Can I have a thank you, clipsport? We all know the investment, infrastructure, big names (Enayati and Borhani anyone?), and just overall quality in IPL is 10 to 15 times better than MLS. I had my mathematician Dr. Farghoozi come in, and he calculated that Ghafouri, who has a 2 1/2 x3 quotient of playing quality is better than Beitashour who has a 1 1/2 x 4 to the negative 4th power quotient. Don't get me started with Heydari, he's a 3 2/3 minus 10 to the 12th power!! So it's not even a question. Enayati is the best choice. It's simple guys, and nobody can argue with me because it's so plain and the answers are so clear.

On a serious note, I love how Ghafouri has 1 TM cap, but people are already saying he's lightyears ahead of Beitashour. Why are all of you against giving Beitashour more than 3 tries in actual games to see his quality? You've obviously been sucking on Ghafouri's teet like he is the Messiah with only watching 1 TM game, do you think you all might all be a little reactionary? I can argue with you all until the end, but anyone in their right mind saying a player working to be the best in IPL is far ahead of a guy who was an MLS all-star playing a good game against Bayern Munich 2 years ago should be shining shoes of a guy helping Foolad beat Gostaresh is just ridiculous.

Clipsport has some doodool envy, but the rest of you are just xenophobes. I really should have kept that log of all of Dejagah and Gucci's haters and made a post of all of the PFDC hypocrites who are now sucking Gucci's **** after bashing him as some piece of crap compared to the almighty choices in IPL! Enayati could have made those clutch goals! He's the perpetual top-scorer in IPL!

Oh, and when the best player in your league is a foreigner like Edinho, while the MLS has arguably the best Australian player (Tim Cahill) and legends like Thierry Henry, Landon Donovan and other quality players, please don't write them off like the entire league are ball-boys.

But maybe I'm just Americanized because I don't blindly suck off anything Iranian like some of you who say IPL is so great then turn around and complain why players don't leave to Europe and why our teams lose to Saudi teams in ACL.

you forgot robbie keane

[Afat11]

you forgot robbie keane

Oh yes, the guy responsible for the goal in 2002 WC Qualifying that sent possibly the best Iranian team ever packing (Daei, Bagheri, Azizi, Mahdavikia, Karimi).

He's crap though, if he were anything he'd be linking up with Edinho in Tractor right now.

Absolutely no quality in the league that's national team made it out of the group of death with Portugal, Ghana, and Germany and was almost good enough to make the Quarter-Finals. Nothing but crap being produced in that league.

IPL though, think of all the stars we've created. Dejagah, oh wait, he grew up in the German system. Gucci, oh wait, he grew up in the Dutch system. But Jahanbakhsh and Azmoun! Oh wait, they never got more than a few seconds in IPL because they don't play youngsters.

IPL just has too much talent, it's undeniable. Anyone who disagrees is a stupid Americanized hitler. IPL 4 LYFE!! Hopefully we can beat Al Kuniya in the upcoming ACL, but they'll probably crash us out, because you know those Saudi leagues. They have 45 year old Brazilians in their squads. Can't compete with that though.

EDIT: I have a feeling that clipsport is going to read this and respond "Nuh uhhh, Saudi leagues have Robario and he's only 36... So you're totally wrong about everything and I'm right, and Beitashour is bad and possible gay. He never said he wasn't gay in his interview, and that basically proves it. He said he was really close to all the guys in the team, so if I can enter his head and psychoanalyze him from my couch, it definitely means he's gay, you guys. I don't have anything against him, but it's just the facts. I'd love to be partial about it, because you know I'm never one to say anything stupid, but that's the way it goes." -clipsport, aka Javeed with a hatred of Beitashour

[ashkon]

It's rediculous the amount of bandwagon pfdc has. Right now, everyone's pointlessly taking a jab at beita. In his last few games before his injury he showed his true quality. He prooved why he's one of (if not the best) right back in the mls. Why the hell should anyone here argue that he doesn't deserve at least a chance to play for tm again. Guarantee that there are players on our tm that would choose the US or any other national team over Iran. I've been following Beita and although it's true that he would have chosen the U.S. over Iran if given the opportunity, he's said in countless interviews that he is proud to have played for Iran. Any of you would have accepted the tm call up right before the world cup if you were Beita. Stop being so judgemental!

[BacheLot]

im saying AT THE MOMENT steven is better than heydari. At the moment anyone at the RB spot is better than heydari. all heydari does is run with his head down and sends a useless cross in. he is slow and cannot keep up with opponents. just watch back the SK game.

[Camran khan]

guys didn't we have this discussion like 10 pages ago?

[Khashayar R]

Steven Beitashour @ Vancouver Whitecaps | 2014-2015 - NEW

On a serious note, I love how Ghafouri has 1 TM cap, but people are already saying he's lightyears ahead of Beitashour. Why are all of you against giving Beitashour more than 3 tries in actual games to see his quality? You've obviously been sucking on Ghafouri's teet like he is the Messiah with only watching 1 TM game, do you think you all might all be a little reactionary? I can argue with you all until the end, but anyone in their right mind saying a player working to be the best in IPL is far ahead of a guy who was an MLS all-star playing a good game against Bayern Munich 2 years ago should be shining shoes of a guy helping Foolad beat Gostaresh is just ridiculous.

Ghafouri impressed more in 1 TM game than Beitashour did in 5/6. And Ghafouri played against South Korea, not against Thailand or Lebanon.