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    #61
    Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
    This is really funny. I can't believe people are saying "semi final appearance or go". CQ can only do so much, and he can't control the players on the field. If the players underperform and we do badly at the Asian Cup, do people actually think coaches are lining up to replace CQ? Any qualified coaches? Any coaches with his caliber or experience? This guy has coaches world class clubs with legends, national teams and was assistant for arguably one of the best head coaches of all time being Sir Alex Ferguson.

    There aren't any decent viable options other than CQ. Daei, Kranjar, Vingada aren't comparable.

    Whatever happens at the Asian Cup happens. If we lose to Iraq in the knockout round, we lost. Sacking him won't improve the state of our football. It'll only bring a hiatus of stagnant transition by our shitty federation..
    CQ can't control players on the field, but he can control our tactic used, our players selection, our players training, our friendly opponents. Anything less than a semi is unacceptable and CQ should be fired to bring another coach and new tactics/players etc... As simple as that. As world class as he is, if a shittier country that pays 1/50 of what we pay CQ makes it further than us, it's considered as a disastrous result in my eyes and change will be needed

    And I am speaking dramatically because we have to prepare for the worse as well. I feel like we pay an insane money already for our coaching staff not to make a semi-final or even final appearance. No excuses. We have the 4rth best squad on paper, highest paid coach and this is the least we are expected to do.

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      #62
      Originally posted by rugs View Post
      But with this line of thinking you are suggesting that we keep CQ forever.
      I agree top managers are better, but they are not the only solution. There are plenty examples of managers who have made a name for themselves managing national teams who where otherwise unknown. Bilic being one of my favorites.
      I still think we all need to hold off on any opinions till after the AC, positive or negative.
      I think we should definitely keep him until he retires. CQ is the most stable option until the end of the WC. It takes over months for the IFF to get going and assign a coach, move people around and organize friendlies anyway. Waste of time to sack him.
      Last edited by Hosseini; 10-29-2014, 02:21 PM.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
        I think we should definitely keep him until he retires. CQ is the most stable option until the end of the WC. It takes over half a year for the IFF to get going and assign a coach, move people around and organize friendlies anyway. Waste of time to sack him.
        I'm not opposed to that idea. In fact i'm all for keeping managers for a very long time in order to allow them to implement their vision for success, something we have never done.

        But I do expect results along the way.

        Either way, like I said, i'm reserving judgement till after the AC.

        My own personal opinion is that we will do well.
        راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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          #64
          Originally posted by ZandiJoon View Post
          CQ can't control players on the field, but he can control our tactic used, our players selection, our players training, our friendly opponents. Anything less than a semi is unacceptable and CQ should be fired to bring another coach and new tactics/players etc... As simple as that. As world class as he is, if a shittier country that pays 1/50 of what we pay CQ makes it further than us, it's considered as a disastrous result in my eyes and change will be needed

          And I am speaking dramatically because we have to prepare for the worse as well. I feel like we pay an insane money already for our coaching staff not to make a semi-final or even final appearance. No excuses. We have the 4rth best squad on paper, highest paid coach and this is the least we are expected to do.
          All I know is we have the most qualified coach we can get, and he is trying the hardest he possibly can. No other coach with his love for the country, knowledge of the players already can be taken with the time constraints currently at hand. Before you know it after the Asian Cup, World Cup qualifiers will be underway and we need to be hauling ass and getting preparation - not switching for a damn vatani coach that will take months.

          Money isn't the issue at all... in fact I think we're getting a pretty damn good deal. Iran isn't portrayed to the world as a paradise at the moment.

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            #65
            Originally posted by rugs View Post
            I'm not opposed to that idea. In fact i'm all for keeping managers for a very long time in order to allow them to implement their vision for success, something we have never done.

            But I do expect results along the way.

            Either way, like I said, i'm reserving judgement till after the AC.


            My own personal opinion is that we will do well.
            I really hope so too. But people don't understand on any given day in football, any team can win or lose. The difference between underdogs and world class teams is getting smaller by the day. If somehow we lost against Iraq or Korea in the quarter finals I don't want people losing their minds on the forum. Seen it too much.

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              #66
              Why CQ is the best coach we have ever had, or ever will have

              Hosseini jan, you are very spot on. I agree with literally every part. I hope we keep CQ, Iran needs consistency.

              I cant believe people have such short memory. We played probably our best game of our lives against Argentina and the next day it all seems to be forgotten and CQ needs to prove himself again? Really? His and IFF's goal was to reach the World Cup which and CQ it did with all odds against him. People seem to find a new excuse to bash him any given time.

              As for Asian Cup, a QF appearance is most realistic at the moment considering the weakness of our squad and our struggle against Persian Gulf opponents.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Hosseini View Post
                If somehow we lost against Iraq or Korea in the quarter finals I don't want people losing their minds on the forum. Seen it too much.
                No S. Korea in the quarters bro. The only 4 teams we can face are Japan, Iraq, Jordan and Palestine.

                The only way we can face Japan in the quarters is if CQ makes history by accomplishing something no coach has accomplished since the new AFC format in 25+ years: Not to finish 1st in a group without Japan!

                And CQ would also be making history if we made a quarterfinal exit to anyone (i.e. Iraq) other than an Asian powerhouse.

                So, if our crappiest coaches (and let's face it we've had some real crappy ones) didn't make that type of history, is it really that unreasonable to expect someone of CQ's caliber not go down that road?

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                  #68
                  ^^Yes. We will probably not make it any further than the QF, because we have sh!tty players, and a sh!tty manager. While Bahrain, Qatar and UAE all have world class players and coaches who make Jose Mourinho look like Mayeli Kohan. And what is even worse is that we might in the QF face Iraq (correct me if I'm wrong), they will eat us alive, we mostly have IPL players, who are awful, while Iraq has players mostly in the almighty Iraqi league The Bahraini strikers and Iraqi players will make our players look like amateurs, everyone who believes we will make it further than the QF need a reality check
                  Looking at Qatar's squad gives me a flashback to when we were preparing to face Bosnia, both teams have much better players than us..


                  LOL @*members getting mad @CQ belittling our players at the world cup.. Hell, our own PFDC members doubt they can finish first in a group with third tier arab teams and expect to get knocked out by Iraq

                  The only way I see Iran not finishing first is if the Arabs make it rain on the referees.

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                    #69
                    I've never lost my confident and respect for CQ. He is a man of great conviction. He has did a masterful job in taking our TM to another level given all the disadvantages and mishaps surrounding the team. He NEVER put himself above the team and always promoted cohesion, gheyrat, and passion for each other and the beautiful game of football.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by rugs View Post
                      But with this line of thinking you are suggesting that we keep CQ forever.

                      I agree top managers are better, but they are not the only solution. There are plenty examples of managers who have made a name for themselves managing national teams who where otherwise unknown. Bilic being one of my favorites.

                      I still think we all need to hold off on any opinions till after the AC, positive or negative.
                      I really want to keep CQ until 2018 unless something really really awful happens at the Asian cup.. But I agree with you that there are other solutions, such as Costa Rica's coach, he wasn't a "world class" coach but outperformed CQ (and probably every other coach)by far in the world cup, but the problem is, with IFF, we will not get someone like him. We will go back to Daei or Ghalenoei, or should we be really lucky, Krancjar.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
                        I've never lost my confident and respect for CQ. He is a man of great conviction. He has did a masterful job in taking our TM to another level given all the disadvantages and mishaps surrounding the team. He NEVER put himself above the team and always promoted cohesion, gheyrat, and passion for each other and the beautiful game of football.
                        Never? That's impressive. You'd be surprised to see the comments of the same Mega super CQ fans of today after the Lebanon loss. People on PFDC change opinions faster than Eminem rapping and ebola spreading

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by ZandiJoon View Post
                          Never? That's impressive. You'd be surprised to see the comments of the same Mega super CQ fans of today after the Lebanon loss. People change opinions faster than Eminem rapping and ebola spreading
                          So true
                          I'm not gonna lie, I criticized CQ like hell and wanted him gone for a period, due to the results he gave us, they were awful. Today he has showed me that he is a good coach and that we need him. But unlike others, if we would finish dead last in our group due to awful tactics, fail in every way possible, I would want him gone. I have of course expectations of him, he is doing a job, and he is getting paid a lot of money for doing it, so of course we have some expectations. Some other people will still cheer for him no matter what, in their eyes, it is ok to criticize Mourinho, Klopp, SAF, Van Gaal etc, but not CQ.
                          Every head coach TM will ever have should be criticized if he fails to deliver what is expected of him (unless the expectations are too unrealistic). People need to learn to be objective.


                          Btw, we better create a salavat thread before the Iraq game (if we even make it that far...), god knows we'll need it

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                            #73
                            The problem here is not our expectations for the Asia Cup.... I think the majority of both "sides" are expecting the semi-finals at the least. We have a good team, its not that far of a stretch.

                            The problem here is people acting like they know how this team should be prepared. Have any of you ever prepared a team, or been prepared for a tournament?

                            How can someone have the audacity to claim TM should be prepared in a certain way, without ever having been involved in any aspect of pro soccer? It boggles my mind.

                            The same people were critical of our pre WC friendlies. As I have said before, at least IMO, CQ's friendlies have several different goals, but going balls to the wall is not one of them. Especially before big tournaments, coaches will always tell their players to keep it safe and do NOT get injured. That does not mean "do not play with intensity", it just means don't make risky decisions that won't have much reward. This is easier to do playing Kenya, Angola, Montenegro, than it is playing Chile, France, etc....


                            This doesn't mean I wouldn't relish watching Iran play those big teams, but I don't think at THIS point, before an Asian tourney, it would be beneficial. (Although, who am I kidding, i would still love watching one of those games tomorrow if I could.)

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                              #74
                              Unless something crazy happens and TM or Japan finish second in our groups, we should face either Iraq or Jordan in the QF
                              but I think Jordan will finsh ahead of Iraq in that group so our first 4 matches in the AC will be vs. Arab teams

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                                #75
                                The group we are in is not difficult. We can easily win all three games in the group stage, putting us against Iraq, Palestine, or Jordan in the next round. Next would be Australia or South Korea, who I think we can beat without parking the bus. WE CAN BEAT ANY ASIAN TEAM WITHOUT PARKING THE BUS ON A NEUTRAL FIELD! (Aussies will have home field advantage so that will be our toughest challenge)
                                "I'm here to clean the carpets. Most of the world is carpeted. And, one day, we will do the cleaning."

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