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    Should CQ look to switch to a two-striker system?

    With the wealth of talent we have in the forward spot ATM, I think it would be silly not to. There are several combinations that could be used for different purposes against our opponents and I think it is our best chance to do some serious damage in January.

    I've seen a lot of ppl wanting Azmoun as a CAM, but I think given his physique/height that would be silly. I understand he I has great vision but his height and strength combination makes him much more useful up front.

    Personally, I'd like to see CQ use a 4-4-2 diamond or a 4-2-2-2.

    Against slower defenses such as UAE/Bahrain: any combination of Azmoun-Sharifi or Sharifi-Ansarifard or Azmoun-Ansarifard would be deadly....their quickness and speed can expose a lot of slower defenses. Don't get me wrong I want Reza to start, but I think the potential of these combos are sky high for Asian standards....should be tested in upcoming friendlies.

    Against a more balanced defense such as potential knock out round openings like Iraq/Jordan/Japan: Reza/Azmoun or Reza/Ansarifard.


    Bottom line: it's time to make the change to a two striker system.
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    #2
    I personally never liked the idea of having only one striker up front. At the World Cup poor Gucci needed to to all the work alone being surrounded by 3/4 defenders every time, this is the ideal way to NOT produce goals. One striker is just bollocks unless you have a world class striker with one decent playmaker behind him.

    I would also like to introduce either a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 system. This is how a 4-4-2 of the midfield and forward should look like IMO:

    Dejagah - Nekounam - Teymourian - Jahanbakhsh
    Gucci - Ansarifard

    Or a 4-3-3 with this one:

    Nekounam - Teymourian
    Masoud
    Dejagah - Gucci - Jahanbakhsh

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      #3
      It's a nice idea for the WCQ but doubt very much that CQ will change the usual 4-2-3-1 with Gucci up-top for the Asian Cup.

      When Nekounam will unfortunately retire in January I can see the 4-4-2 diamond working well with number of different combos in attack: Ansarifard-Azmoun can be really interesting in the future, otherwise Ansarifard-Gucci, Sharifi-Ansarifard ect... then Teymourian as the DM in, Dejagah and JB as the side-midfielders. The AM role is a big question mark though, in any formation. It would be good to see Azmoun try to fill that role, otherwise I feel that a formation without a "playmaker" like 4-3-3 would suit us best.

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        #4
        Short answer: No

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          #5
          I prefer if CQ sticks to his 4-2-3-1 when we are playing better opposition, and his 4-3-3 when we are playing worse or the same level opposition (S.Korea/Australia)

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            #6
            nowadays most tops teams do not play with a 2 striker system.

            having said that, the issue with TM is not 1 striker or 2 striker. The issue is we lack technically capable players with good passing, vision and creativity.

            Our team is filled with physical presence but no creativity and spark.

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              #7
              I think Ansarifard is a good supporting striker, and Azmoun has the potential to be a great supporting striker CF player too. I think if they were coordinated with Reza up front a 2 striker system could really fill that gap we have going from defense to offense, and we currently dont have a good CAM it seems so its a great solution.
              --------------------------Beiranvand-------------------
              --Moharrami----Hosseini--Kanaani----Amiri--
              ------------------Ezatolahi-----Ebrahimi--------------
              --Jahanbaksh---------Ghoddos------------Taremi--
              ---------------------------Azmoun----------------------


              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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                #8
                Iranians like offensive football. CQ should take a note of that. Seriously I'm don't like this 10 man defense counter attack system.

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                  #9
                  4-5-1 the formation used in worldcup is very similar to 4-3-3. He will move two midfielders: Jahanbaksh and Dejagah further up the pitch to support a bigger attack.

                  Using a 4-4-2 formation is not very similar to a 4-5-1 in terms of defense and offense.

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                    #10
                    Yes, we should definitely be playing with two strikers on the field for the 1st round and if we fall behind in any of the subsequent games. Having said that, there's absolutely no way CQ will switch to a 4-4-2 system - he has always been one of the main proponents of the 4-5-1.

                    And frankly, the 4-4-2 is an outdated system that puts too much pressure on your midfield players. With Dejagah having fitness issues and Nekou and Ando being relatively old, that would be disaster for us IMHO.

                    That's not to say that CQ can't use a second striker in a 4-5-1 in the CAM role. What will make the difference there is how much freedom he will give that CAM to move forward and act as a striker, rather than having him play more as a defender in the opponent's half.

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                      #11
                      No, we need a strong def.
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                        #12
                        4-4-2 with
                        Haghighi (GK)
                        Montazeri & Hosseini (CB)
                        Heydari or someone else, but who??) & Hajsafi/Pouladi (RB/LB)
                        Nekounam in a free creative role (like Pirlo)
                        Teymourian as a box to box, doing all the dirty work for Nekounam
                        Dejagah and Jahanbakhsh as our wingers
                        Ansarifard as noke hamle and Reza as a free cf around him. or Reza as Noke Hamle and Shojaei/Azmoun as a free cf around him.

                        Since we dont have the right players for 3-5-2 and we dont have the right players for 4-3-3, in my opinion this is the best way to play. It's something between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-4-2

                        Unfortunately we dont have a player like Jabbari anymore who could fill the gap between our offense and defense with just one great touch.
                        Last edited by Kasra.; 11-03-2014, 11:35 AM.




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                          #13
                          Originally posted by AllStarMomo View Post
                          No, we need a strong def.
                          How will playing with two strikers effect our defense? The proposed ideas still has 4 defenders and 2 DMS just like we had in the WC (4-2-2-2 formation wouldn't touch our DM line or defense).
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                          Perspolis FC
                          Malavan Bandar Anzali


                          "I will never be able to say good bye to Iran. I have a feeling of belonging to this country and to the people." - Carlos Queiroz

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                            #14
                            It depends on what system the opposite team is employing.
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                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footbal...he_Asian_Games

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ghermez agha View Post
                              How will playing with two strikers effect our defense? The proposed ideas still has 4 defenders and 2 DMS just like we had in the WC (4-2-2-2 formation wouldn't touch our DM line or defense).
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                              I think that with a second striker we need also a platmaker. With that you have to play a DM as a playmaker and with that we would lose our stability.
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