Post-Game --- IRAN - SOUTH KOREA (friendly?!?!?!!)

[Ali.Karimi79]

I have never said Shojaei is the best player, it only sickens me to see how disrespectful people like you talk about specific TM players, when they have done more for Iran than you ever will do and ever have done..

Apart from that you should be able to accept that if CQ has faith in him, he is not as bad as portrayed.. I agree he didnt have a good game (he messed up a counter by tripping over the ball), but IMHO Heydari was the WORST on the pitch that day..

Btw, war Shojaei in irgendein Familiendrama von dir involviert ? Oder warum dein Hass und deine Besessenheit von ihm ?

[Lorestani]

The problem is that you are biased in your assessment. Shojaei had an average performance. He was neither better nor worse than other players. Your judgment is clouded by your beliefs and assumptions. Simple as that.

[Darloc]

The problem is that you are biased in your assessment. Shojaei had an average performance. He was neither better nor worse than other players. Your judgment is clouded by your beliefs and assumptions. Simple as that.

AK79 made a good post and it is you actually that is blinded by your support for Shojai.

Anyone with a decent football IQ can see that in every game Shojai is the cause of hampering our counter attacks (just like in one of the counter attacks he ruined yesterday against s.korea)

The guy is too slow, too indecisive, dribbles too much, unnecesary ''pretty'' playing that results in loss of possesion for our team wich again can result in dangerous devastating counter attacks by TM opponents. Nevermind his emotional rubbish which he displayed again in the Korea game in Tehran.

Shojai adds nothing to the team, just set up a poll on this forum and look for yourself how Shojai is rated by us fans.
I repeat, Shojai is garbage, only god knows why CQ keeps on inviting him.

[Superparsi]

IMHO he still is TM material, I just believe he is not the best choice for defensive style of play. I think he is no longer starter material but definitely has the experience and skills to be on national team 1-2 more years.

[aryanirani]

I just dont want him to start thats all. Whats wrong with Soroush should take his place.

[Doctor DOOM]

[DireStraits]

best chance to score was at 35:38 if Ando passed that ball to Gucci then he could not avoid scoring

[aryanirani]

I wouldn't mind seeing Payam Sadeghian instead of Shojaei, for me its between Payam or Soroush maybe Khalatbari but I want someone younger.



Also did anyone feel that we are missing Pooladi? Hajsafi had a good game ! I seriously hope that Pooladi is left back ... so then Hajsafi can be left winger and Dejagah can move to the middle with JB on the right. That way the Shojaei problem is solved.

[DireStraits]

I wouldn't mind seeing Payam Sadeghian instead of Shojaei, for me its between Payam or Soroush maybe Khalatbari but I want someone younger.



Also did anyone feel that we are missing Pooladi? Hajsafi had a good game ! I seriously hope that Pooladi is left back ... so then Hajsafi can be left winger and Dejagah can move to the middle with JB on the right. That way the Shojaei problem is solved.

The TM we will see in AFC games will be different wiith this. Koreans came here to analyse us. CQ is not stupid to play his best Cards at this stage. Shokaei was very usefull against Argentine and Lebenon.

[Darloc]

The TM we will see in AFC games will be different wiith this. Koreans came here to analyse us. CQ is not stupid to play his best Cards at this stage. Shokaei was very usefull against Argentine and Lebenon.

You need (new) glasses

[Lorestani]

AK79 made a good post and it is you actually that is blinded by your support for Shojai.

Anyone with a decent football IQ can see that in every game Shojai is the cause of hampering our counter attacks (just like in one of the counter attacks he ruined yesterday against s.korea)

The guy is too slow, too indecisive, dribbles too much, unnecesary ''pretty'' playing that results in loss of possesion for our team wich again can result in dangerous devastating counter attacks by TM opponents. Nevermind his emotional rubbish which he displayed again in the Korea game in Tehran.

Shojai adds nothing to the team, just set up a poll on this forum and look for yourself how Shojai is rated by us fans.
I repeat, Shojai is garbage, only god knows why CQ keeps on inviting him.

There are a couple of logical fallacies in your post. Let me help you to see them:

1) You say people here do not like Shojaei. Yes, that is indeed the case. From that, you infer that Shojaei must be a bad player. No, that is wrong. You cannot prove your point by resorting to the fact that you and others do not like him. That's tautological. Just because you and others here think he is a bad player, that does not make him a bad player. In fact, that you and others do not like him bolsters my argument that you and others have preconceptions that cloud your judgment. Again, the fact that you and others do not like him supports my argument, not yours.

2) You say Shojaei is slow, indecisive etc. Again, that might be true, but that is completely besides the point. The point is actually whether there is an Iranian player in his position that would be better than him. Unless you name one, Shojaei can be the worst Iranian player this world has seen, he would still be a legitimate starter for Team Melli. It's about relative quality, not absolute quality. Relative to other Iranian players in his position.

[Z Joon]

Nah Masoud is not TM material since 2 years now. We have plenty of options better than him anyways. In fact, even half of the starting AMFs of the top half IPL teams would do better than him. Im sure Souroush (or Payam) will be a fine upgrade once he gets used to international games.

Guys like Rafiei, Sadeghian or even Khalatbari are hungry when they play, Masoud plays like he doesn't care and literally takes a big sh*t on our ball possession and crucial counter-attacks whenever he gets the ball. We need someone motivated, active and omnipresent, which I just cited 3 of them, but there are even plenty of better options than Masoud. We can't afford to look after his careless mistakes every time as with our playing-style especially we need to be extra-focused and give 101% everytime we are going forward.

I respect his past contributions for TM but unfortunately I repeat that he is far from TM material now, time to move on and I hope that Carlos realized that.

[DireStraits]

You need (new) glasses

[OFFSIDE_1]

You need (new) glasses

this coming from a poster who 5 minutes before Azmoun scores, calls him overrated ......

[Darloc]

this coming from a poster who 5 minutes before Azmoun scores, calls him overrated ......

I see you are still upset about that, yekam aab beriz ke nasooze azizam

Yes, i am shaking you guys awake before you turn him from a hero into zero