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    #16
    Originally posted by pdot View Post
    That's considering that CQ keeps the same formation after AC. Consider that most of our opposition will be mediocre at best. I think he'll switch more offensive, hence the 4-4-2.
    I highly doubt he will change up his lineup. I've been wanting him to switch to a two striker system for some time now but it doesn't seem likely at all......we have no reason/basis to assume he will switch something he's been very fond of since he came to iran.
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      #17
      the criteria you put sounds like shojaei:

      1. Actually plays in the center (shojaei)
      2. Has a high work rate and helps out the defense (shojaei)
      3. Has good technique (shojaei)
      4. Has a good pass (Shojaei)
      5. Has enough vision to create space for himself and his teammates and know when is the best time to pick out the pass (Shojaei)
      6. Has a good shot (shojaei)
      7. The player has to be comfortable playing deeper into CM territory since in CQ's system (shojaei)

      out of all the names mentioned who have those criteria the only player i know that can replace him would be hajsafi.

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          #19
          Originally posted by hzv View Post
          the criteria you put sounds like shojaei:
          Not exactly, I was just describing the role he plays. I think we can agree he can't do a few these things well at all and others he does inconsistently.
          I would love to see Haysafi in the middle more, I remember he was supposed to be Iran's young Fabregas-like talent before he got thrown at LB.
          pls save us dejagah

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            #20
            Originally posted by hzv View Post
            the criteria you put sounds like shojaei:
            1. Actually plays in the center (shojaei)
            2. Has a high work rate and helps out the defense (shojaei)
            3. Has good technique (shojaei)
            4. Has a good pass (Shojaei)
            5. Has enough vision to create space for himself and his teammates and know when is the best time to pick out the pass (Shojaei)
            6. Has a good shot (shojaei)
            7. The player has to be comfortable playing deeper into CM territory since in CQ's system (shojaei)
            out of all the names mentioned who have those criteria the only player i know that can replace him would be hajsafi.
            Unfortunately that is the case but if we look at Shoajie's actual impact on the game and no the theoretical side of which player should play better in that position we will see that even though theoretically Shojaie should be better than the rest of CQ's options but he isn't performing in games and this is worrying Iranian football fans a lot. The CAM position is extremely important in TM's formation and we need a player like Liverpool's Coutihno or Chelsea's Hazard to really make an impact. Before we had Karimi, and Navidkia who were both very skilled and for the last few years i their absence CQ has filled their spots with Jabbari, Nouri, Shojaie and sometimes even Dejagah. If you look at the players i mentioned above other than Karimi and Navidkia none of them are really good enough. They don't possess the speed, shot, vision, passing, and... needed for a successful CAM. This position is crucial to us if we want to qualify for the 2018 WC and we really need to start focusing more on this subject. We have good strikers, wings, defensive midfielders, defense, fullbacks, goalie but we don't have a play maker and that's the reason that we are so good in defense and not attack. I'm just going to say it again for the heck of it, in counterattacking football which is TM's style of play the CAM is a very very important position and unfortunately our best option right now is Shojaie .

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              #21
              Originally posted by Autreen View Post
              No because he can't do a few these well at all and others he does inconsistently.
              I would love to see Haysafi in the middle more, I remember he was supposed to be our Fabregas before he got thrown at LB.
              As much as I like him, Hajsafi wouldn't be a good idea he isn't creative enough. He could play maybe as an attacking mid, not a playmaker but then I don't think CQ will chose to do that. We need to link the midfield and the attack with a creative midfielder that has some good passing skills, Ehsan is better off on the wings, either LB or LM.

              For me someone like Rahmani, Sadeghian or Rafiei would all do the job correctly.

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                #22
                Ashkan is really who should be playing as our CAM, since he's not only one of our fastest players, but most creative players and capable of taking great shots from behind the box on the left or right side. I suspect that's where CQ will be using him in the Asian Cup since he doesn't really use an attacking midfielder in a central position anyway.

                With Ashkan in the middle, Haj on the left and JB on the right and Gucci upfront, we're certainly not lacking any fire power or play making abilities if CQ decides to play slightly more offensive. I think it's a serious waste of Haj's talent to use him in Left D and I really hope the Pouladi situation gets resolved before then.

                Other than that, Rafei, Azmoun, Sharifi and Taromi are all better bench options for the CAM position than Shojaei. I think it's a bit silly to expect too much defensive duties from your CAM, unless you're playing one of the top 10 teams in the world. As Pele said, the best defense is offense.

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                  #23
                  Everybody on earth is the ideal shojaei replacement!

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                    #24
                    Ideal Shojaei Replacement

                    anyone can do it better than Shojaie , I dream for the day he hangs his boots from national team, bring in any retired player from the 80's they can still be more productive than shojaie ,

                    He is like that player in goal kochik that always thought he had the skills to do any trick but half way he realized he cant pull it off loses the ball, put it on steroids X 10 , you get shojaie

                    or like the kid in gol kochik you ask 20x times not to walk around and mark your man or come back and help the defense they still walk around, put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                    or like the kid in goal kochik you ask to not hold the ball and move it fast once I pass to you pass it back so the opportunity is not lost , yet he holds the game, put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                    or like the kid in gol kochik that passes the ball always to the opponent and doesnt run back to fix his mistake , put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                    or like the kid in goal kochik you ask not to foul and give away free kicks, yet he does it , put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                    or like the the kid in goal kochik that always misses the chances by trying to do some thing fancy, put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                    or like the kid in goal kochik we used to call him NOKHODI, put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

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                      #25
                      Ideal Shojaei Replacement

                      ^ arseces that was a pretty Essay lol
                      IRI's politics is no different than handling a pressure cooker ..... As the pressure builds up, you slowly let the steam out just a tad bit so that you don't see overflow, and once the pressure from below is less, you put the lid down again and raise the temperature.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by arseces View Post
                        anyone can do it better than Shojaie , I dream for the day he hangs his boots from national team, bring in any retired player from the 80's they can still be more productive than shojaie ,

                        He is like that player in goal kochik that always thought he had the skills to do any trick but half way he realized he cant pull it off loses the ball, put it on steroids X 10 , you get shojaie

                        or like the kid in gol kochik you ask 20x times not to walk around and mark your man or come back and help the defense they still walk around, put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                        or like the kid in goal kochik you ask to not hold the ball and move it fast once I pass to you pass it back so the opportunity is not lost , yet he holds the game, put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                        or like the kid in gol kochik that passes the ball always to the opponent and doesnt run back to fix his mistake , put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                        or like the kid in goal kochik you ask not to foul and give away free kicks, yet he does it , put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                        or like the the kid in goal kochik that always misses the chances by trying to do some thing fancy, put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie

                        or like the kid in goal kochik we used to call him NOKHODI, put it on steroids x10 , you get shojaie
                        You come here, talk shit about one of our players, and to make things even worse, think you are cool. No, man. Intori nashod. After this Asian Cup, you will eat your words.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Lorestani View Post
                          You come here, talk shit about one of our players, and to make things even worse, think you are cool. No, man. Intori nashod. After this Asian Cup, you will eat your words.
                          Just like Shojaei made us eat our words in the last years?
                          Don't get me wrong. If CQ sticks to him, i hope he proves us all wrong for the sake of TM.
                          IRI's politics is no different than handling a pressure cooker ..... As the pressure builds up, you slowly let the steam out just a tad bit so that you don't see overflow, and once the pressure from below is less, you put the lid down again and raise the temperature.

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                            #28
                            Ideal Shojaei Replacement

                            Originally posted by Lorestani View Post
                            You come here, talk shit about one of our players, and to make things even worse, think you are cool. No, man. Intori nashod. After this Asian Cup, you will eat your words.
                            I really hope you are right, You think i want our team to fail? Ill be the first guy to praise him if he plays good, but ive been waiting for that to happen since 2009 and i have given up,

                            Also please Have some manners and respect , towards me , yourself and everyone else , i would never talk to you the way you did to me

                            By the way I dont think I am cool, I know I am cool !

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                              #29
                              Ideal Shojaei Replacement

                              Originally posted by Ali.Karimi79 View Post
                              ^ arseces that was a pretty Essay lol
                              Its The amount of frustration built over the years,


                              During the Argentina game I yelled out, Quiroz bayad yekio bezareh ke shojaie ro begireh, my cousin nearly exploded out of laughter, he knows how much i hate shojaie's game


                              I really hope he gets into a fight with CQ and never gets invited again

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                                #30
                                i think i have solved the padideh masoud which is the opposite of padideh pashaei. i believe people are unhappy with a cam role in cq strategy and they blame masoud for it. fact is masoud has to play deep and is an important position in cq defense tactic (as pointed to by a recent video analysis of iran korea game) that is precisely why when he changes tactic shojaei either does not play or plays another position all together.


                                the lack of game analysis by our broadcasts also does not help the bandwagon group think that our fans can be guilty of. i have seen a few iran games with english commentating and broadcast and was surprised that the player most of us berated here was usually chosen as the best player by the English guy. for an example i remember the game against brazil people kept saying how hajsafi played bad but in fact was praised throughout by the english commentator.

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