Iran's Hazfi cup semi finals (date, Time, news)

[persian-eagle-13]

the final has been set for 1 game on Khordad 1st. which is in end of may or june 2015.

[saadat_abad]

I don't see that. There were many red players back to defend and still a long way to goal. It was a foul but it is unusual to givea Card to this sort of hand touch and it changed the Destiny of the game. What would you say about the hand touch in Iran Korea game?

dg thats not my problem if you dont see it agha joon haha

[DireStraits]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkZUm6iLkmk

[Ghermez Agha]

I mean it's impressive if you only look at PP and the last few games.
But when you consider Tabrizi, Bayrami and Nariman Jahan, who are all the same age and have been playing twice as long in the IPL with better stats, then it's not that impressive.
It's just that people are on a Taromi obsession now because he scored a few goals. They did the same with Alishah last season too.

I can't seem to wrap my head around the point you continuously are trying to make here.

Just because another player is equally as good as another player means that's they shouldn't be given a chance? How does that make sense? These guys have been discovered and established in their clubs unlike taromi who hasn't had an opportunity to make a name for himself until this season in his move to PP where he managed to do so immediately. Also nariman jahan is not a striker so I don't get why you bringing him up.

Sounds like your anti-sorkhabi mentality speaking and not your logic which I know you have.

[rugs]

Iran's Hazfi cup semi finals (date, Time, news)

I can't seem to wrap my head around the point you continuously are trying to make here.

Just because another player is equally as good as another player means that's they shouldn't be given a chance? How does that make sense? These guys have been discovered and established in their clubs unlike taromi who hasn't had an opportunity to make a name for himself until this season in his move to PP where he managed to do so immediately. Also nariman jahan is not a striker so I don't get why you bringing him up.

Sounds like your anti-sorkhabi mentality speaking and not your logic which I know you have.

I thought I clearly explained it.

I was saying that Taromi's stats are not as good as a few other young players that have been better in my opinion and that no one mentions those other players because they are not in SS or PP.

This happens every season. Last season after a few good games by Alishah, people were calling for him to be in TM.

[Ghermez Agha]

I thought I clearly explained it.

I was saying that Taromi's stats are not as good as a few other young players that have been better in my opinion and that no one mentions those other players because they are not in SS or PP.

This happens every season. Last season after a few good games by Alishah, people were calling for him to be in TM.

I'm sorry but I just don't agree at all. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

I personally saw a lot of people bring up bayrami's name when he was one of the top snorers of the league last year and I've seen people bring up narimanjahan now that he's playing consistently for tractor.

And to your second point that too is false in my opinion. This isn't a few games Agha, it's HALF a season. That's enough to judge a player fairly. And Alishah is a very decent player, better than the average forward in Iran too so I'm not sure what you're getting at there either.

[Ando Teymourian]

And to be fair, just as many people were calling for Alishah to get invited when he was at Rah Ahan and even Naft.

Funny enough, he has been invited to TM camps only when he has NOT played for PP.

[BacheLot]

[St_Mark]

Bayrami has been averaging that for the past two seasons in the IPL. He has 22 goals in 60 appearances and 8 or 9 assists.

That's two seasons with Gostaresh, not PP which is full of stars.


Morteza Tabrizi this season has been averaging 1 goal/assist per game. Twice as much as Taromi.

But again Taromi gets noticed because he is at PP.


By the way, Taromi this season has 20 appearances with 3 goals and 5 assists. That's 0.4 goals/assists per game. I'm not saying that's bad, of course for a young player that is good. I'm just saying we should look at all the players.

He had an injury while back but he is back in form. He was Star of Hamadan team facing Zobahan for IPL entry . Zobahan won that game and steal Murteza before Perspolis sign him.
He has been starter for all Zobahan coaches since and even ahead of Mosalman when he start as MF.
He may not be with Zobahan long unless Zobahan make an exception to keep him.
He was Invited By CQ once, he will be invited again.
Great player

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Iran's Hazfi cup semi finals (date, Time, news)

Padideh got unlucly in the PSOs

[Hajik]

Naft won against Padideh at Penalty Kick

[Bi-honar]

Bayrami has been averaging that for the past two seasons in the IPL. He has 22 goals in 60 appearances and 8 or 9 assists.

That's two seasons with Gostaresh, not PP which is full of stars.

Morteza Tabrizi this season has been averaging 1 goal/assist per game. Twice as much as Taromi.

But again Taromi gets noticed because he is at PP.

By the way, Taromi this season has 20 appearances with 3 goals and 5 assists. That's 0.4 goals/assists per game. I'm not saying that's bad, of course for a young player that is good. I'm just saying we should look at all the players.

No argument about Bayrami last season bro - he did have a phenomenal record and overall he is a very talented young guy.

But one, I don't know where you're getting your stats for this year (see below) and two, that doesn't take away from how well Taromi is playing at the moment - and I emphasize at the moment, because frankly that's all that matters for the Asian Cup.

As far as I know (based on Wiki + Transfermarket + Persian League + game highlights):

Bayrami has 4 goals and assists in 15 or 16 appearances this season (including the cup).
Tabrizi has 3 goals and assists in 9 or 10 appearances this season (including the cup).
Taromi has 10 or 11 goals and assists in 20 appearances (including the cup).

[rugs]

No argument about Bayrami last season bro - he did have a phenomenal record and overall he is a very talented young guy.

But one, I don't know where you're getting your stats for this year (see below) and two, that doesn't take away from how well Taromi is playing at the moment - and I emphasize at the moment, because frankly that's all that matters for the Asian Cup.

As far as I know (based on Wiki + Transfermarket + Persian League + game highlights):

Bayrami has 4 goals and assists in 15 or 16 appearances this season (including the cup).
Tabrizi has 3 goals and assists in 9 or 10 appearances this season (including the cup).
Taromi has 10 or 11 goals and assists in 20 appearances (including the cup).

The stats I gave you were all from IPL stats + wiki

I haven't seen anywhere that says Taromi has more than 3 goals or 5 assists.

And again, I didn't say that anything should be taken away from Taromi. I just said that he's receiving this attention simply because he is in PP and there are other players with better stats that don't receive that attention.

[rugs]

I'm sorry but I just don't agree at all. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

I personally saw a lot of people bring up bayrami's name when he was one of the top snorers of the league last year and I've seen people bring up narimanjahan now that he's playing consistently for tractor.

And to your second point that too is false in my opinion. This isn't a few games Agha, it's HALF a season. That's enough to judge a player fairly. And Alishah is a very decent player, better than the average forward in Iran too so I'm not sure what you're getting at there either.

Yes, because Bayrami had two great seasons and deserved it.

I don't agree that 1/2 a season deserves anything. We've seen it time and time again with PP players getting all the hype for a few good games.

Just off the top of my head these are players that received the same amount of hype and were supposedly the future stars of our football.

Sohrab Entezari
Merhzad Madanchi
Javad Kazemian
Payan Rafat
Mehrdad Oladi
Mohsen Khalili
Hadi Norouzi


And i'm not even counting the more ridiculous ones like Alizadeh, Badamaki, etc...

I'm all for promoting young talents, but the way PP players get hyped up over other comparable players not only destroys their careers but it takes attention away from other players who might deserve it.

[Bi-honar]

I haven't seen anywhere that says Taromi has more than 3 goals or 5 assists.

Yeah, those are just for the league. I was including the cup appearances as well for all the players.