GN is under attack

[rugs]

You have your history GN (for lack of a better phrase), so you are not being fair right now.
Sepahan was dismantled halfway through ACL. Lost Jalal, Rahmati, Heydari, Toure, Janjus, hell even Kazemian and Enayati were strong bench players. GN left too. How can a coach beat Hilal away twice with bezan ziresh? Or Rayyan with so many stars?
As for the Seoul game, again SS lost players halfway through ACL. Everyone was discussing not being paid and many key players left. With a depleted team they still outplayed Seoul.
SS should have easily beaten Seoul, and Iran should have easily beaten Lebanon. Yet we know football doesn't work that way and the scoreline isn't the full story. Iran murked Lebanon but still lost, and SS was overall better than Seoul over 2 legs but still lost.

It's not just GN that I have a problem with. It's just that he gets a lot of media attention.

I don't think Mazloumi, Daei, Estili, Derakhshan, MK or the rest of the footballers turned managers are worth much.

GN knows how to play the system, that has been his success in my opinion. But the system is slowly changing, slowly becoming less of a joke, slowly patching up flaws and unfairness and open season on outside football advantages.

Anyway, he has yet to have any success outside of Iran. The same way I view players like Majidi and Kazemian, I view GN and the rest.

[rugs]

I am no GN fan, and dont like him at all... But totally disagree with the remark "he not being a real manager".
He is one of the few IPL coaches who have a proper coaching license AND in case of GN an internship in Germany... at Bayer Leverkusen under coach Christof Daum to be precise!
So, he is a qualified coach, whether we like him or not, and has been the most succesful among the rest Iof PL coaches for the past 6 years.
Again, I dont like him at all. But we have also to be fair with the words we select. The man IS qualified for what he does albeit not on my sympathy list!

Are you sure this isn't the story of GN paying to take pictures in the stadium and watch an open practice then claim he was there learning?

[Doctor DOOM]

EZ did a splendid job not only that ACL final year. But a year before that AND the year before that one, where they came very close to winning the IPL (had it not been for their final match against Jalali's Foolad that beat Zob and GN got freaky lucky in ... some province and by sheer dumb luck won the league) and won the hazfi cup. For three consistent years they were performing extremely well and as they say, were punching above their weight class.

Even before EZ took over, Zob was doing fine under another veteran esfahani coach, Fatemi. but EZ took them to a different level.

[Doctor DOOM]

Zob's failure to replicate their ACL performance the next year is the unwritten law of Iranian football where if at all a small team does well and excels, the next year they will be looted, ransacked, weakened and crushed by ANY MEANS POSSIBLE to bring back Iranian style ''normalty'' to the football (which is only big teams are allowed to shine and enjoy privileges).

In other words, Zob was IMMEDIATELY starved of funds (when other shit sogoli teams were still enjoying ill-deserved backing and rewards for their CONSISTENT FAILURES IN ASIA), forced to sell off their star players to merely survive the league.
Pretty much what's happening to Foolad this year!!
Iranian football at its ''best''!!!

[Bi-honar]

This is the scale I use for good coach/bad coach. GN has been an okay coach, although this year he seems to be slipping to bad...

GREAT coach = Results WAY better than expected performance of their squad
Good coach = Results above expectations
Okay coach= As expected results
Bad coach = Results below expectations
Terrible Coach = Results way below expectations

[DireStraits]

There is ar least a valid point in this program that several teams score goal against Esteghlal close to second post and it is GN WHO should be blamed.
Naft players have good positioning which is why people vote Mansourian to be the best coach. Hassan Roshan and NN have issue with GN too. It is not only about 90. The other point is this computer programs that facilitate these analyses.

[Adesor Vafaseya]

Are you sure this isn't the story of GN paying to take pictures in the stadium and watch an open practice then claim he was there learning?

I never heard about the story you mentioned.

But I know that he had an internship in Germany at Bayer levekusen under Christof Daum. At that time I was in Austria myself!