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    #31
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    So a question to all

    Now with all the recent issues with TM such as , waiting a long time to resignCQ,lack of friendlies,Sarbazi problems and now Karimi quiting

    What % would you give to our chances of wining the AC ?????????

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      #32
      Originally posted by sarbaz View Post
      So a question to all

      Now with all the recent issues with TM such as , waiting a long time to resignCQ,lack of friendlies,Sarbazi problems and now Karimi quiting

      What % would you give to our chances of wining the AC ?????????
      Same as I gave them before. All of these issues were expected and were a part of my calculations.

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        #33
        Originally posted by sirvan View Post
        Ali Daei has the biggest ego in the history of Iranian football.
        I agree and I always sided with karimi, when they had their issues.

        But one thing we cant't deny is that Daie is a mans man and won't crumple under pressure or fold when he hears "balla cheshmet abroost"

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          #34
          Is there any interviews with (TV or Audio) Karimi regarding this? What's his explanation?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Ghomarbaaz View Post
            Is there any interviews with (TV or Audio) Karimi regarding this? What's his explanation?
            I guess we all have to wait and find out later his reasoning but as usual there are unconfirmed reports that he has disagreement with CQ. There is more than one side on any story but if it turned out to be true it will be 3 Iranian coaches who quit on CQ , Namazi , Saleh & Karimi.


            نيمکت تيم ملي براي کريمي جا نداشت


            بنا بر آنچه روزنامه خبرورزشي در شماره امروز خود نوشته است، علت دلخوري و قهر علي کريمي از اردوي تيم ملي، شبيه به همان چيزي است که باعث قهر مجيد صالح پيش از رقابتهاي جام جهاني شده بود.



            بنا بر این گزارش، کارلوس کی روش به علی کریمی گفته بود در جام ملت های آسیا او روی نیمکت تیم ملی نخواهد نشست و همین مسئله باعث دلخوری شدید کریمی شده است. همچنین بنابراین گزارش کلاس پروازی بلیت علی کریمی متفاوت با سایر اعضای کادر فنی بوده که این مسئله هم در ناراحتی کریمی بی تاثیر نبوده است.

            در عین حال علی کریمی پس از حضور در پست دستیاری کی روش هنوز با فدراسیون هیچ قراردادی نبسته و این مسئله هم یکی دیگر از دلخوری های کریمی از فدراسیون و البته کارلوس کی روش بوده است.

            خروج کریمی از تیم ملی باعث خشم کارلوس کی روش هم شده و او این حرکت کریمی را بی احترامی به خودش و تیم ملی ارزیابی کرده است.








            8 دليل قهر جادوگر شماره 8
            كروش به كريمي گفت بايد روي سكو بنشيني

            خروج ناگهاني علي كريمي از اردوي تيم ملي به كروش، ملي پوشان و فوتبال دوستان شوك وارد كرد... اما اين قهر جادوگر به اندازه شماره پيراهن او در زمان بازيگري اش دليل دارد. ديروز از منابع مختلف دلايل قهر كريمي را شنيديم و بد نيست شما هم اين ماجرا را بخوانيد... اين شما و اين هم تمام دلايل قهر كريمي.

            اول- اعتراض به نداشتن قرارداد؛ مي گويند علي كريمي از اين كه هنوز با تيم ملي قرارداد ندارد، شاكي است. او از فدراسيون توقع داشت زودتر از اينها با او قرارداد ببندند.

            دوم- دلخوري از كروش؛ گويا كريمي از سرمربي تيم ملي هم دلخور است. مي گويند او به يكي از نزديكان خود گفته كروش براي گرفتن مجوز پولادي حتي با نظام وظيفه هم طرف شد اما براي عقد قرارداد من با فدراسيون هيچ قدمي برنداشت.

            سوم- اعتراض به غيبت پرسپوليسي ها؛ اين هم روايت پرسپوليسي هاست كه مي گويند وقتي جادوگر فهميد پولادي و سروش نفرات بيست ودوم و بيست وسوم تيم ملي هستند و ديگر پرسپوليسي ها هيچ شانسي براي حضور در جام ملت ها ندارند، در اعتراض به غيبت پرسپوليسي ها كنار كشيد.

            چهارم- بي اعتنايي كروش؛ اين هم براي خودش دليلي است... كريمي مي گويد كروش در هيچ زمينه اي نظر من را نمي پرسد و فقط كار خودش را مي*كند!

            پنجم- اختلاف با دستيار كروش؛ شايعه شده جادوگر با يكي از همكاران كارلوس كروش اختلاف نظر شديدي دارد و چون كروش از آن همكارش حمايت مي*كند، كريمي ترجيح داد در كادر فني تيم ملي نباشد.
            ششم- سرمربيگري پرسپوليس؛ اين را بيشتر بايد شايعه بدانيم تا واقعيت... شايعه شده كريمي در ايران ماند تا وارد كادر فني پرسپوليس شود و در آينده*اي نزديك، سرمربي پرسپوليس باشد.
            هفتم- نشستن روي سكو، به جاي نيمكت؛ مي گويند علي كريمي امروز (ديروز) متوجه شد قرار نيست در جام ملت ها به عنوان مربي روي نيمكت تيم ملي بنشيند و جايگاه خوبي روي نيمكت تيم ملي ندارد. او بعد از شنيدن اين ماجرا، نداشتن قرارداد و تفاوت بليت هواپيما را بهانه مي كند و به حالت قهر از اردو مي رود. گويا كروش به كريمي گفته تو آناليزوري و بايد روي سكو بنشيني، كريمي هم قبول نكرده و گفته ترجيح مي دهم در ايران بمانم و بازي ها را از تلويزيون ببينم.

            هشتم- تفاوت بليت هواپيما؛ انگار دليل اصلي قهر جادوگر همين است. گويا براي برخي مربيان و ملي پوشان بليت فرست كلاس گرفته شده و براي كريمي و برخي بازيكنان بليت معمولي... كريمي كه همين چند شب پيش هدايتي را به اردوي تيم ملي كشاند و از او 250 هزار دلار براي كمك به تيم ملي پول گرفت، وقتي فهميد بليت هواپيما براي تمام ملي پوشان يكي نيست، شاكي شد و گفت وقتي احترام من را نگه نمي دارند، نمانم بهتر است.

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              #36
              Why would he quit last second? Some shady shit going on...


              S - E - C - U - L - A - R - I - S - M

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                #37
                If the issue is sitting on the bench, it's twice as stupid as any other reason, because he knew he couldn't be sitting on the bench without at least a B license when he joined the TM cadre. That's not up to CQ or IFF - those are the rules.

                Having said that, if he still didn't have a contract or hadn't been paid, he had every right to quit, but I wonder why he accepted the position without signing a contract.

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                  #38
                  Dejavu: Ali Karimi "apparently" quits TM as a coach.

                  Originally posted by Camran khan View Post
                  Same as I gave them before. All of these issues were expected and were a part of my calculations.
                  Lol, so you knew that some players would have sarbazi issues?

                  Can we discuss some of my investments please
                  راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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                    #39
                    It is not the end of the world.
                    If CQ had quit it would have been an issue to talk about. Karimi was a great player and he retired and he may need to go back to college and also get his coaching certificate. Ideal person to help CQ was Hashemian and not Karimi.
                    Maybe After victory in Asian cup Hashemian should be invited and hopefully he will go to WC2018 with CQ.
                    People should stop talking about Karimi and other side issues. We have a TM and we have a cup in front of us. If you guys keep on talking about why and how Karimi is gone it is same as what mihani tabloids are doing. The difference is they make money by reporting hashieh and you get nothing but lose sleep.
                    Beh pish baraaye piroozi va movaghiaate TM as it is no matter what took place and no matter who was left behind and whom you would have preferred to see. The combinations and permutations for player selection and who will start can drive even a coach insane unless you have 11 superior beings and no more.
                    We have to admit that for this generation many players are so close and that made CQ's job harder.
                    Edit: add...
                    The first three matches are against teams that could never dream of lifting the cup so the games against them can be considered practice and preparation for the matches against Japan Korea and Australia. So no need to complain anymore about not having friendlies. If TM was in a group with Korea and Japan then lack of preparation would have been an issue. So we have free practice matches to face the real challengers.

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                      #40
                      He got more than 16.5k likes for that post and almost 3000 comments with almost everyone takes side with him.
                      *sigh* sick and tired of iranian football. No AK8 no sucess.
                      IRI's politics is no different than handling a pressure cooker ..... As the pressure builds up, you slowly let the steam out just a tad bit so that you don't see overflow, and once the pressure from below is less, you put the lid down again and raise the temperature.

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                        #41
                        Unless your life or families are threatened, once you have agreed to take the post of Assistant to TM coach, no issue at the outset of a major campaign can be important enough to turn your back on the Iranian people and fans; this could have all waited for after the AC campaign.

                        It seems that it has become a norm with everyone associated with TM, at first they regard their participation as a duty and sarbaz'e Vatan. Which solider leaves the Front?

                        Anyway, in my book whatever the reason, the quicker everyone leaves Karimi saga behind, the quicker we can concentrate and fully support a noise-free TM campaign. Everything else including Karimi wranglings can wait for after AC.
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                        Long Live 3 Rang'e Iran

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                          #42
                          Considering the situation in PP he can go now and try to play 1/2 season and show his gheirat there. He may actually do well. Think of Karimi and Nouri running together to score against an PGL team. We have to throw away the negative thoughts and stories and think of what we can do do make the best out of what we have. CQ has done his job so far and he will complete it hopefully,

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by rugs View Post
                            Lol, so you knew that some players would have sarbazi issues?
                            Can we discuss some of my investments please
                            LOL it was more along the lines of IFF doing everything in their power to screw up our chances as badly as possible, everything from submitting our squad too lately (GN style) to canceling our flight to Sydney
                            On a more serious note, I'm not really sure if this will effect TM's chances that badly..

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by The Realist View Post
                              Only one word to describe this, farce!
                              Given inadequate facts, I'll reserve my judgement on karimi.
                              What I do realize is that too many different IR powerhouses are at collision heads, goodarzi, Kafashian, military, hell everyone, it's not surprizimg that someone has to be a fall guy?

                              What concerns me most is the impact on players moral, the press in Australia have now been given a wider license to pop non-footballing questions and the players will ultimately take sides and break up. Thank god we still have CQ to extinguish the fire and shut the press off. Doubt that he will stay in charge on return whatever our results.
                              Sad.
                              EEEEEEN, especially the Bold,
                              Until we hear first hand from AK8 and/or that ozgale drooghgoo Nabi what really went down..!!?

                              For Now, its not even sure yet if he quit, or was he shrewdly brushed aside(told his services were no longer needed and asked to quit) by Nabi/Goudarzi(My Best Guess..!) , or flat out Fired..?

                              we should all reserve our opinions till more hard fact surfaces..!!
                              some of the current speculations given in bs iranian media are Laughable at best..!!:bs: Like him having a beef with CQ or taking exceptions to being removed from AC Bench by carlos..!! or the funniest one, him telling CQ he should take Nouri or XY player over another invitee..!! :bs:

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                                #45
                                This is what Mehdi Rostampour, one of the most respected sport writers in Iran, says on why Ali Karimi left, it claims Karimi left because he called Kafashian on his corruption and money stealing.


                                چرا علی کریمی نرفت استرالیا
                                __________
                                حسین هدایتی به درخواست کریمی، چک 870 میلیونی در اختیارش می*گذارد برای توزیع بین بازیکنان تیم ملی که هنوز پاداش جام جهانی را هم نگرفته*اند.
                                کدام مجنون حاضر است چک* بی اعتبار هدایتی را نقد کند؟ احتمالاً هیچکس. خود کریمی از پسرخاله*اش پول می*گیرد در آستانه اعزام، می*دهد بازیکنان.
                                رییس فدراسیون روانه اردو شده از کریمی خواسته نقدینگی را به او بسپارد. بحث دو نفره بالا گرفته. کفاشیان گفته چرا پول باید دست تو باشد؟ کریمی تلویحاً پاسخ داده: بدهم شما که این را هم بالا بکشید؟
                                فاسدترین فدراسیون که امروز کارمندانش در حمایت از مهدی محمدنبی اعتصاب کرده*اند، بلیت پرواز کریمی را برخلاف بقیه مسافران اعزامی به استرالیا، از بیزینس کلاس به عادی تغییر می*دهد.
                                کریمی از سرمربی دلگیر بود که محکم*تر پشت او بایستد. گرچه خود کی*روش این هفته تا آستانه استعفا پیش رفت.
                                ملت عزیز، اگر کی*روش برای کریمی یا به هر دلیل دیگری کنار می*کشید، الان نمی*گفتید ترسید و جا زد؟
                                کریمی درباره تصمیمش در اینستاگرام نوشت: "اگر نمی*توانی خدمت کنی برو تا خیانت نکنی." کاش مسئولین مملکت مثل او بیاندیشند. اما برخی از حالا، کریمی را مقصر شکست احتمالی می*دانند!
                                هرکی از هرکی بدش می*آید، خاک انصراف کریمی را می*پاشد روی او. جواد نکونام، امسال از آلودگی آسمان تهران مقصر بود تا افزایش قیمت نان و کنار کشیدن کریمی.
                                عده*ای هم هستند که فرو رفتن در نقش منتقد کی*روش، احساس خوبی بهشان می*دهد. امروز امامی*فر پرسپولیس را تمرین را داد. چهل دقیقه بعد حسین عبدی رسید، درخشان هم اصلاً نیامد! همین* افراد اگر تیم ملی نتیجه نگیرد، کی*روش را با خاک یکسان می*کنند

                                https://www.facebook.com/mehdi.rosta...84663811604375

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