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    Originally posted by Keano View Post
    Oh thank you for correcting me Afat jaan.
    Completely Offtopic:

    Keano Jan,

    your signature made me to google ups ome Snow Leopard/Ibris Videos.
    Such a majestic and rare creature.
    So beautiful.

    I really hate us for f'ing up the planet and killing such beautiful creatures.

    Enjoy this:

    IRI's politics is no different than handling a pressure cooker ..... As the pressure builds up, you slowly let the steam out just a tad bit so that you don't see overflow, and once the pressure from below is less, you put the lid down again and raise the temperature.

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      Originally posted by khodam View Post
      Do you mean Rhmati and Aghili? This two only open their big moths after they were crossed off TM. I have been one of CQ's critics (at times). But I really admire the discipline he has brought to TM. We had the strongest TM in 2002 and 2006. Do you remember the AK8's kicking the bench? For an "Iranian" culture it is impressive to see that none one in this TM is above the team. We have never had this.
      Rahmati
      Aghili
      Jabbari
      Khalilzadeh
      Khalatbari
      Possibly Sadeghian

      Some were just being babies at the time but later on apologized. Jabbari retired but from later interviews it seemed that he was not happy with CQ.
      Khalatbari and Khalilzadeh just spoke against the coach and got kicked out.

      The message to the rest of the players on the team is simple, "give any interviews against CQ, and you are out"

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        Originally posted by clipsport View Post
        Rahmati
        Aghili
        Jabbari
        Khalilzadeh
        Khalatbari
        Possibly Sadeghian

        Some were just being babies at the time but later on apologized. Jabbari retired but from later interviews it seemed that he was not happy with CQ.
        Khalatbari and Khalilzadeh just spoke against the coach and got kicked out.

        The message to the rest of the players on the team is simple, "give any interviews against CQ, and you are out"
        No comment. This list speaks for itself. Just you know, Jabbari is still bickering about CQ and TM from somewhere in Qatar/UAE.
        .... At the end I am nothing other than ordinary

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          Originally posted by clipsport View Post
          Rahmati
          Aghili
          Jabbari
          Khalilzadeh
          Khalatbari
          Possibly Sadeghian

          Some were just being babies at the time but later on apologized. Jabbari retired but from later interviews it seemed that he was not happy with CQ.
          Khalatbari and Khalilzadeh just spoke against the coach and got kicked out.

          The message to the rest of the players on the team is simple, "give any interviews against CQ, and you are out"
          Khalatbari never spoke out as such, he just simply did not fit CQ formation and style. Which is a shame he would have been very useful.

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            Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
            Big elephant in the room that Dr Doom and CQ critics can't answer:

            Why do ALL the team players not like, not respect, but LOVE cQ? WHY? In fact have you ever seen a group of national team players love and believe in a coach like this? Does it mean nothing to you that the people closest to the action, the people who are in the best position to evaluate the coach, LOVE the man? is that meaningless to you?
            Regardless of what the players are saying and regardless of the players mentioned by other members (which I should mention, the one of the only positives of CQ's reign has been discipling childish behavior of Rahmati, Aghili, etc), your statement is so childish and naive.

            First of all, any player can love any coach on a personal level but that doesn't mean that the coach's tactics are right/justified or even that the player approves of those tactics! Second, this is a professional game (and yes I know our players are not professional but they are being paid to play this game and are playing in the national team for God's sake, this is the base expectation from any footballer), no one gives a damn who loves who, it's about playing the right way to ensure getting good results based on a plan and not sheer dumb luck. The bottom line is that right now we are scraping by and getting the results, but the results are not based on any tactics or planning when we are in possession of the ball! All the players can love CQ all they want, but when we fall behind against Japan, South Korea and other half-decent teams, we will struggle and that is the reality, whether you want to believe it or not. A highly defensive strategy like this is completely obliterated when the team concedes the first goal. And finally, even if a player does not approve of a coach's tactic, surely you can't be naive enough to expect players to speak their minds freely about the coach or even talk against the coach before or during a major tournament like the WC or Asian Cup and risk their national career.
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              Dr doom, it is pretty unfair and unprofessional to have such high expectations from CQ or TM. We have to look at the big picture and see how Our team got to where it is today. The fact is, Our team did not have 1/3 of the preparations that most majority of the teams did coming into this tournament. We all know that because CQ said that in every interview he had prior to the tournament and even during the tournament.

              You see, Teams in Asia are not the same anymore. While there was absolutely no improvement in our soccer in the last decade or so (prior to CQ taking over) every other team in Asia has improved significantly. These teams now can play and the tournament is the proof. We are not gonna bulldoze past these teams anymore like we used to when we didnt have any tactics and depended solely on individual brilliance. Now i say this because we have to understand when CQ took over this team in 2011, what he was working with. The team had not played in the previous World cup and after we lost in the semi of 2011 Asian cup we had no improvement. He had just players but no team. He realized what he had and made it flourish.

              He is a world class coach that has implanted such defensive structure to our team that world class analysts call it "one of the best defense in the world". Just because we dont necessarily understand the tactics doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is doing.

              This reminds me of my high school senior year when we won the championship and we absolutely had no skilled players but one hell of a coach and he implanted the same kind of system and made sure everyone was aware of their positioning. Thats team melli except on the world-class level. It works. It's not pretty but it does. It has to be respected and actually i enjoy watching this style of soccer because i see how hard they have to work to maintain their position and every tackle won at the right place is one closer to their goal" Counter attack and go for the goal!".

              So, all that being said, my point is just the that we have a team that is being praised by all foreign media, most consider us being in the final, all while we had 2 friendlies. You have to respect a coach that has done what he has done with TM. I understand what you mean by "Not being convinced" but that's not his fault. if we had the right preparations that he was seeking, you would be convinced. Our team would be much better but for now this is what we got and this is our TM and we have to support. Our players are playing with such high confidence and discipline, i have never seen that from TM. Lets not doubt our team and let's cheer them to the trophy!

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                Originally posted by ArminSh View Post
                ...
                Dude, "enter" key, carriage return, paragraph... any of them ring a bell?!

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                  Still waiting for CQ to convince

                  Originally posted by ArminSh View Post
                  Dr doom, it is pretty unfair and unprofessional to have such high expectations from CQ or TM.
                  I think it's pretty unfair for you to expect him to be a professional.

                  I'm fairly certain he is not qualified at all to comment on anything football.
                  راه یکی است و آن راستی است

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                    Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
                    Dude, "enter" key, carriage return, paragraph... any of them ring a bell?!
                    it was from my phone and sent in a hurry, my apologies.

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                      Originally posted by rugs View Post
                      I think it's pretty unfair for you to expect him to be a professional.

                      I'm fairly certain he is not qualified at all to comment on anything football.
                      I dont know him just stating my opinion.

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                        Originally posted by clipsport View Post
                        Do you want me to list out the players who have spoken against CQ and gotten blacklisted from TM. He basically just kicks out anyone who says the slightest thing against him.
                        Good riddance. He kicked out CANCERS that vatani coaches didn't have the balls to get rid of. And oh my, how big of a loss bezan-ziresh Aghili, washed-up Rahmati, and washed-up Jabbari have been - if only we had them....

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                          Well Ashkan, Nekunam, Shojaie, and Ando are definitely pros. They have played soccer at high levels and seen many TM management. I would take their opinion over the likes of Rahmati or Jabbari.

                          We are in the middle of a very challenging tournament. Why can't we wait two weeks before bombarding the TM. Just to say "I told you so"?
                          .... At the end I am nothing other than ordinary

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                            Originally posted by IranFootball10 View Post
                            Regardless of what the players are saying and regardless of the players mentioned by other members (which I should mention, the one of the only positives of CQ's reign has been discipling childish behavior of Rahmati, Aghili, etc), your statement is so childish and naive.

                            First of all, any player can love any coach on a personal level but that doesn't mean that the coach's tactics are right/justified or even that the player approves of those tactics! Second, this is a professional game (and yes I know our players are not professional but they are being paid to play this game and are playing in the national team for God's sake, this is the base expectation from any footballer), no one gives a damn who loves who, it's about playing the right way to ensure getting good results based on a plan and not sheer dumb luck. The bottom line is that right now we are scraping by and getting the results, but the results are not based on any tactics or planning when we are in possession of the ball! All the players can love CQ all they want, but when we fall behind against Japan, South Korea and other half-decent teams, we will struggle and that is the reality, whether you want to believe it or not. A highly defensive strategy like this is completely obliterated when the team concedes the first goal. And finally, even if a player does not approve of a coach's tactic, surely you can't be naive enough to expect players to speak their minds freely about the coach or even talk against the coach before or during a major tournament like the WC or Asian Cup and risk their national career.
                            lol what do you mean??? have you forgotten when TM players basically revolted against Branko (openly) in WC2006? Or when Nekounam went on Navad after AC2011 to blast Ghotbi? LOL. How short people's memories are.

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                              Honestly, CQ critics fall into several categories:

                              1) Those suffering from the Iranian mental condition known as "I know best" or "know-it-all-itis". The same condition that led to the revolution.

                              2) Secret agendas (against foreign coaches, pro-PGL players, pro-Rahmati or pro-Aghili)

                              3) Lack of knowledge of football, or Iranian football (those who just started watching Iranian football and don't realize that we're suffering from a talent shortage and that even when we had tons of talent, we never played even close to beautiful football)

                              4) stupidity or ignorance

                              End of story. CQ's the best coach we've ever had, and we'll miss him when he leaves us and Mayeli-Kohan is back in charge.

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                                Originally posted by IranFootball10 View Post
                                Regardless of what the players are saying and regardless of the players mentioned by other members (which I should mention, the one of the only positives of CQ's reign has been discipling childish behavior of Rahmati, Aghili, etc), your statement is so childish and naive.
                                Absolutely not. It's indeed a big deal when a coach can get his team to completely buy into his program and look up to him the way CQ has been able to with this team. But it's an even bigger deal for those of us who know the horrible track record of Iranian players both at club and national level when it comes to matters like this. I've NEVER seen an Iranian team this committed to their coach in my lifetime.

                                First of all, any player can love any coach on a personal level but that doesn't mean that the coach's tactics are right/justified or even that the player approves of those tactics! Second, this is a professional game (and yes I know our players are not professional but they are being paid to play this game and are playing in the national team for God's sake, this is the base expectation from any footballer), no one gives a damn who loves who, it's about playing the right way to ensure getting good results based on a plan and not sheer dumb luck. The bottom line is that right now we are scraping by and getting the results, but the results are not based on any tactics or planning when we are in possession of the ball!
                                And finally, even if a player does not approve of a coach's tactic, surely you can't be naive enough to expect players to speak their minds freely about the coach or even talk against the coach before or during a major tournament like the WC or Asian Cup and risk their national career.
                                You clearly haven't been following this team much. After the Bosnia game the players were crying in the locker room and begging Kaffashian to extend CQ's contract. Even later when it looked as though CQ was a goner they still spoke out and called for him to return. There is no mistaking that the bond between this coach and his players is genuine.

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