Still waiting for CQ to convince

[Bi-honar]

it was from my phone and sent in a hurry, my apologies.

No worries man, I was just kidding with you

[Bi-honar]

Honestly, CQ critics fall into several categories:

1) Those suffering from the Iranian mental condition known as "I know best" or "know-it-all-itis". The same condition that led to the revolution.

2) Secret agendas (against foreign coaches, pro-PGL players, pro-Rahmati or pro-Aghili)

3) Lack of knowledge of football, or Iranian football (those who just started watching Iranian football and don't realize that we're suffering from a talent shortage and that even when we had tons of talent, we never played even close to beautiful football)

4) stupidity or ignorance

End of story. CQ's the best coach we've ever had, and we'll miss him when he leaves us and Mayeli-Kohan is back in charge.

So, you're suggesting that anyone who criticizes CQ doesn't know football, is stupid or ignorant... And THEY are the ones who are suffering from a mental condition known as "I know best"?!

[ramingeles2000]

So, you're suggesting that anyone who criticizes CQ doesn't know football, is stupid or ignorant... And THEY are the ones who are suffering from a mental condition known as "I know best"?!

that's right. Who said I'm not suffering from "I know best" myself? LOL.

Look TM plays unattractive football under CQ but I think he gives us the best chance for success with the dearth of talent we have and terrible facilities and support. Let's just kick Iraq's ass and win this thing.

[clipsport]

Honestly, CQ critics fall into several categories:

1) Those suffering from the Iranian mental condition known as "I know best" or "know-it-all-itis". The same condition that led to the revolution.

2) Secret agendas (against foreign coaches, pro-PGL players, pro-Rahmati or pro-Aghili)

3) Lack of knowledge of football, or Iranian football (those who just started watching Iranian football and don't realize that we're suffering from a talent shortage and that even when we had tons of talent, we never played even close to beautiful football)

4) stupidity or ignorance

End of story. CQ's the best coach we've ever had, and we'll miss him when he leaves us and Mayeli-Kohan is back in charge.

And what category do CQ lovers fall under.

Foreign worshipers. Anyone who is from outside of Iran is right because they are from "kharej". Basically having zero confidence in your own people.

This is the same mentality that makes people worship Davari, Hasegawa, and other average to below average foreign based players who have no place in TM simply because we have much much better players domestically.

I'll tell you this.
If GN was team coach and we parked the bus against barcelona (sorry i meant UAE) then you and other foreign lovers would be cursing them off as incompetent morons. 37% possession against UAE. Are you kidding me?

If Daei kicks out Karimi from TM, then he's an unprofessional "khalezanak". But if CQ (or another foreigner) does it, then he's cleaning out the cancer.

If GN subs a GK in the 118th minute for PKs, then he's out of his mind and needs to go to a mental institution. If Van Gaal does it, he's a genius.

Anything that CQ does, you and your type will support. Eyes closed to everything else. CQ is GOD. Very dangerous mentality.

[Z Joon]

Honestly, CQ critics fall into several categories:

1) Those suffering from the Iranian mental condition known as "I know best" or "know-it-all-itis". The same condition that led to the revolution.

2) Secret agendas (against foreign coaches, pro-PGL players, pro-Rahmati or pro-Aghili)

3) Lack of knowledge of football, or Iranian football (those who just started watching Iranian football and don't realize that we're suffering from a talent shortage and that even when we had tons of talent, we never played even close to beautiful football)

4) stupidity or ignorance

End of story. CQ's the best coach we've ever had, and we'll miss him when he leaves us and Mayeli-Kohan is back in charge.

In other words you're announcing that you are narrow-minded. Correct?

[Bi-honar]

that's right. Who said I'm not suffering from "I know best" myself? LOL.

Look TM plays unattractive football under CQ but I think he gives us the best chance for success with the dearth of talent we have and terrible facilities and support. Let's just kick Iraq's ass and win this thing.

There are generally 2 groups of Iranians my friend and this holds true with any discussion be it about CQ and TM or politics and history:

1 - The groups that gravitate toward either extreme, are extremely inflexible in their opinions and think that they know best and anyone who doesn't think exactly like them is ignorant, stupid or retarded. Even if they're on the opposite ends of the spectrum, their approach to everything is the same, everything is black & white and they spit out the same output, regardless of the input or what facts they're presented with. This is the group that have made the ME the hell hole that it is!

2 - The group that appreciate there are two sides to every argument, they think in the grey, they show some flexibility in their opinions and in fact change them when necessary and presented with facts or through experience. This is usually a very small group who gets beaten up by people on either side of the spectrum belonging to the 1st group and this coincidentally the group that brought Europe out of the dark and offers a bright future for the ME.

The more of us that stay in the middle, the better it is for all of us and the more united we can be. On that note, like you said, let's just kick Iraq's ass and win this thing - attractive or not!

[ramingeles2000]

And what category do CQ lovers fall under.

Foreign worshipers. Anyone who is from outside of Iran is right because they are from "kharej". Basically having zero confidence in your own people.

This is the same mentality that makes people worship Davari, Hasegawa, and other average to below average foreign based players who have no place in TM simply because we have much much better players domestically.

I'll tell you this.
If GN was team coach and we parked the bus against barcelona (sorry i meant UAE) then you and other foreign lovers would be cursing them off as incompetent morons. 37% possession against UAE. Are you kidding me?

If Daei kicks out Karimi from TM, then he's an unprofessional "khalezanak". But if CQ (or another foreigner) does it, then he's cleaning out the cancer.

If GN subs a GK in the 118th minute for PKs, then he's out of his mind and needs to go to a mental institution. If Van Gaal does it, he's a genius.

Anything that CQ does, you and your type will support. Eyes closed to everything else. CQ is GOD. Very dangerous mentality.

You realize that you are on the extreme opposite end of everything you're criticizing?

You blindly support vatani coaches (who suck) and our PGL players (when's the last time a PGL team accomplished something in Asia?) I don't blindly support CQ. I look at the facts. And the facts weigh in my favor, not yours. Show me a modern domestic coach who has come even close to accomplishing what CQ has, or a PGL-based player without European experience who's done anything for our football, and then we can start to talk.

[ramingeles2000]

In other words you're announcing that you are narrow-minded. Correct?

Nope. I'm open minded and look at facts. But when I see this level of stupidity on the forums, I make bold statements to counter.

[pdot]

And what category do CQ lovers fall under.
Foreign worshipers. Anyone who is from outside of Iran is right because they are from "kharej". Basically having zero confidence in your own people.
This is the same mentality that makes people worship Davari, Hasegawa, and other average to below average foreign based players who have no place in TM simply because we have much much better players domestically.
I'll tell you this.
If GN was team coach and we parked the bus against barcelona (sorry i meant UAE) then you and other foreign lovers would be cursing them off as incompetent morons. 37% possession against UAE. Are you kidding me?
If Daei kicks out Karimi from TM, then he's an unprofessional "khalezanak". But if CQ (or another foreigner) does it, then he's cleaning out the cancer.
If GN subs a GK in the 118th minute for PKs, then he's out of his mind and needs to go to a mental institution. If Van Gaal does it, he's a genius.
Anything that CQ does, you and your type will support. Eyes closed to everything else. CQ is GOD. Very dangerous mentality.

Just to counter a few of your points:
1. What are your own people? Do you mean Iranian? Is Dejagah considered Iranian? Is he good because he is a kharej? Why are you choosing who to include in your conversation? Why about Jahanbaksh? The reason CQ is seen so highly by many is that he has experience coaching at high levels. No need to bring up his resume, but coaching experience is whether you were successful before hand. That is why the likes of Dejagaj and Jahanbakhsh chose to play for Iran.
2. Counter attacking will result in less possession of the ball. Mourinho, one of the best coaches currently is known to have low possession, but is able to win many games.
3. There is some foreign worship when it comes to coaching. All those you have named have ended up failing numerous times as coaches: GN and Daei.
4. It is your choice if you like his tactics or not, but nothing about people respecting CQ has to do with that he is a foreigner. No coach in our country can bring the game management that CQ brought to us before the WC. He is a very detailed in terms of managing a game and the aspects of it. No other coach manages and makes substitutes game by game based on their opposition.
5. If there was any other coach we would have the same starting lineup as we did in the worldcup, but he revamped our asian cup lineup and made necessary changes.

[Camran khan]

Just to counter a few of your points:
1. What are your own people? Do you mean Iranian? Is Dejagah considered Iranian? Is he good because he is a kharej? Why are you choosing who to include in your conversation? Why about Jahanbaksh? The reason CQ is seen so highly by many is that he has experience coaching at high levels. No need to bring up his resume, but coaching experience is whether you were successful before hand. That is why the likes of Dejagaj and Jahanbakhsh chose to play for Iran.
2. Counter attacking will result in less possession of the ball. Mourinho, one of the best coaches currently is known to have low possession, but is able to win many games.
3. There is some foreign worship when it comes to coaching. All those you have named have ended up failing numerous times as coaches: GN and Daei.
4. It is your choice if you like his tactics or not, but nothing about people respecting CQ has to do with that he is a foreigner. No coach in our country can bring the game management that CQ brought to us before the WC. He is a very detailed in terms of managing a game and the aspects of it. No other coach manages and makes substitutes game by game based on their opposition.
5. If there was any other coach we would have the same starting lineup as we did in the worldcup, but he revamped our asian cup lineup and made necessary changes.

Do you know who Jahanbakhsh is?

[alaph]

And what category do CQ lovers fall under.

Foreign worshipers. Anyone who is from outside of Iran is right because they are from "kharej". Basically having zero confidence in your own people.

This is the same mentality that makes people worship Davari, Hasegawa, and other average to below average foreign based players who have no place in TM simply because we have much much better players domestically.

I'll tell you this.
If GN was team coach and we parked the bus against barcelona (sorry i meant UAE) then you and other foreign lovers would be cursing them off as incompetent morons. 37% possession against UAE. Are you kidding me?

If Daei kicks out Karimi from TM, then he's an unprofessional "khalezanak". But if CQ (or another foreigner) does it, then he's cleaning out the cancer.

If GN subs a GK in the 118th minute for PKs, then he's out of his mind and needs to go to a mental institution. If Van Gaal does it, he's a genius.

Anything that CQ does, you and your type will support. Eyes closed to everything else. CQ is GOD. Very dangerous mentality.

Listen dude.... pure and simple! you can NOT compare the work ethics and professionalism of Europeans with Iranians! Boro bala, beya payeen... i dont' care! CQ is a better coach than anything we can produce!

[ArminSh]

When a coach like Ghalenoi with all that reputation and supposedly knowledge of the game says he doesnt think the coaches of TM watch the domestic league because Aghili, khalatbari, shahbazade and noori arent included on the team, i cant blame these CQ haters still be lurking around even tho we got maximum pts from all of our GS games.

Aghili- at 34 years old, what good does he bring to TM? Everyone is praising M.pouraliganji, 22 years old and where did he come from?? Naft.

Khalatbari- another old player. Although he is a very dangerous player when it comes to attacking in general, his defensive game SUCKS. no good for current TMs style.

Mohammad noori- Old and inconsistent. much rather have rafie instead of him. Hes technically better, younger and stronger then lanky noori.

finally shahbarzade- He needs more time in Esteghlal and IPL. hes still young and hes only had one half good season. better options ahead of him but he will have a chance in TM if he keeps it up.

So....I wonder why QN would says something like that. We got all these young players from our domestic squad in our current squad that are gaining experience and doing real well.
What is this dudes deal? I dont understand why he is so shallow minded and cant accept the fact that hes not even good enough to be CQs assistant.

[TheBoss]

I agree with some and don't agree with many of your points, Dr. DOOM, but I'm just glad you are back. we need alternative voices on this forum.

[alaph]

Hopefully Karimi is learning a lot from him! After 4 years of working with him, we could end up with an amazing coach in a few years

[ArminSh]

Hopefully Karimi is learning a lot from him! After 4 years of working with him, we could end up with an amazing coach in a few years

too bad karimi missed the chance to work with him.