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Does anyone have any examples similar to Pouladi's situation where a player gets pushed (ball out of play) and gets a yellow card for simulation? What I'm trying to get at is whether there's any precedence for this type of call.
Simulation rules were obviously intended for different purposes and I have seen this situation maybe 100 times, where either no action was taken or the offender was carded (not the player getting shoved).
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Originally posted by Bi-honar View PostDoes anyone have any examples similar to Pouladi's situation where a player gets pushed (ball out of play) and gets a yellow card for simulation? What I'm trying to get at is whether there's any precedence for this type of call.
Simulation rules were obviously intended for different purposes and I have seen this situation maybe 100 times, where either no action was taken or the offender was carded (not the player getting shoved).
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Originally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Postiran - china asian cup 2004. sattar zare was sent off for a small shove similar to iraqi GK's shove of pouladi and chinese player died there
What I'm looking for are examples of the reverse decision where the player who gets shoved actually get a card.
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Again, to those of you who think this was anything other than biased officiating at its best/worst, these are just a few examples I dug up from only the 1st 23 minutes of the game before we scored:
In this one, the Iraqi defender has both arms around Hosseini, pushes/carries him 2-3 ft., Williams calls against Hosseini! No flag raised by linesman either.
This one needs no explanation... Definite yellow card offense, Williams didn't even call a foul! Ghafouri just happened to pick up the ball, run it up the field, had a heavy touch and just as it was about to go out of bounds Williams waves advantage!!!
And this is Pouladi's 1st yellow. He barely made any contact and most refs wouldn't have even called a foul, let alone hand out a yellow card - particularly after that tackle on Ashkan that didn't get a yellow. 20 minutes later Pouladi was out for getting pushed to the ground!
And here's again a foul on Dejagah, two footed tackle, both cleats up, normally AT LEAST a yellow, play waived and no card given!
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In organizations that fail, the board call for resignation of the president.
The scandals which we have witnessed assure and warrant the resignation of the Bahraini sheikh.
All the scandals are happening under his watch.
Japan also can protest that some Jordanian player should have been red carded for roughness.
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Originally posted by Bi-honar View PostThanks Yashar jaan, I'm aware of that one and Zareh may have been deserving of a yellow there, but definitely not a red.
What I'm looking for are examples of the reverse decision where the player who gets shoved actually get a card.
Iraqi goalkeeper initiated the fight by shoving Pooladi
Sattar initiatiated by shoving the chinese
In one case it was an Arab ref and in the other an aussie ref but the cards given to TM players in both cases.
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Originally posted by Leopard View PostThat is the best example. If You agree Zareh deserved a yellow card, then by that logic the iraqi goalkeeper deserved a yellow and not Pooladi.
Out of all those cases where the ref didn't card an offender for a push/shove (and there are many), does anyone know of a single case where the offendee actually got a card instead, for simulation or othersie?
I don't know how much more clearly I can ask the question.
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I cannot think of any situation since normally the players act and fake a hit on leg and fall on the ground and referees issue yellow for them trying to gain a penalty kick. This shoving and pushing has happened before and the initiator should get warning and not the victim. Pooladi was the victim and he got yellow carded. The idiot referee should have had a discussion with the linesman and also the 4th referee before issuing a card. He did it hastily to get even with CQ for his comments after Bahrain match.
Without any doubt Ben williams did not practice fairness in any way or means. He was makign sure TM would suffer. Whether he had been given order by Aussie FF or not that remains to be unknown.
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