I missed the final verdict, what was AFC's reason for dismissing the doping issue?

[EKBATAN]

if we had a legit case and the rules are already set, shouldnt there be a reason for dismissing our allegations? i saw something on twitter about how there are 2 types of tests and Iran's doping agency tested for 1 but not the other, FIFA sent letters to Iran for the 2nd one and we didnt respond in time and thats why its dismissed? can someone explain what happened? if you are not abiding by the rules you must have a good reason. what was this reason?

[EKBATAN]

Damn no one knows?

[K. Nader]

The AFC released a statement sometime ago that they'll release the complete reasons in due time. However, nothing has been officially been released and we're all still in the dark.

[Hosseini]

This is their official statement. Everyone knows Iran is right, be-orzehs at AFC just dismissed justice and don't want to reorganize the whole semi-final.
http://www.the-afc.com/media-release...-iran-football

[EKBATAN]

This is their official statement. Everyone knows Iran is right, be-orzehs at AFC just dismissed justice and don't want to reorganize the whole semi-final.
http://www.the-afc.com/media-release...-iran-football

Thanks.


so they said " decided that the protest was unfounded. "

unfounded means having no foundation or basis. so did we have legit case or not? its kind of confusing hearing so many sources online and what is true or not.
whatever the case is they need to come out and clear it up. either we were missing some facts and info and they need to point it out or they are wrong and violating the rules.

[Adesor Vafaseya]

what was this reason?

we rasied those claims against an Arab team and therefore not valid.

[Martin-Reza]

We are Iranian and Al Khalifa is not.

[Keano]

Yeah, I am so dying to find out the reasoning behind this dismissal. I just am real curious to see what nullified Iran's filed complaint. Wish we could find out?!?

[webmaster]

we are Iranians, that is the real reason. why dont we really understand?

all the things that the IR has done in the past 30 years has been wrong therefore we have no friends nor any good case ever because f the ignorance of our government to pick the right people and put them in charge. instead we have aghazadeh's who have gotten all the posts and they are mostly into fun than caring for Iran and its football. This is the honest truth and everybody knows that. as an example, would you hire kafashian to clean your house in real life? not a chance but he is the IFF head. and this goes with everyone else.

[St_Mark]

According to Kafash they have question one of doc presented by IFF.

ایرادی که به یکی از مدارک ارائه شده از طرف نادو یا فیفا گرفتند

باعث شده نتوانیم این مسئله را ثابت کنیم و گفتند فدراسیون عراق از موضوع دوپینگ اطلاع نداشت
البته ما پیگیری های لازم را انجام خواهیم داد تا ثابت کنیم که حق با ایران بوده است. در کل AFC دوست نداشت برنامه مسابقاتش چنین تغییری کند و یک تیم به خاطر دوپینگ بازیکنش حذف شود
اما برای اثبات حق مان این موضوع را پیگیری می کنیم.

. He did not elaborate . I don't have any doubt about doping of Azahra and lie he said afterward but there might also be incompetency of IFF a factor.

ـJamshid Nazmi was Tractorsazi Chairman at the time of Testing and 3 months afterward. He clearly said he had not been notify of doping by IFF at all even 3 months after.
According to the rules, IFF first had to notify Tractorsazi and club to notify Player . Azahra claim he was not notified by Tractorsazi .

When both club and player claim they were not aware it is up to IFF provide evidence that Tractorsazi was notified.
Base on a newspaper interview his replacement in Tractorsazi said he is not aware of any notification.( He said he was not in charge then but he is not aware at all).

About the same time IFF publicized positive testing of Vali ( Foulad) & إ Babaei (Tractorsazi ). They published report on their official HP as well as notifying their club.
It is best if IFF publish evidence that they have notify Tractorsazi.

جمشید نظمی مدیرعامل وقت باشگاه تراکتورسازی در مورد اینکه آیا زمان جدایی علا عبدالزهرا از تراکتورسازی بحث دوپینگ این بازیکن مطرح شده است، گفت:
در آن مقطع چنین بحثی به هیچ وجه مطرح نشد. جدایی عبدالزهرا از تراکتورسازی به خاطر مسائل شخصی و خانوادگی و نارضایتی این بازیکن بود.
چه زمانی که این بازیکن رفت و چه سه ماه بعد از آن که من هم در باشگاه بودم هیچ بحثی در مورد دوپینگ این بازیکن مطرح نشد.
نه نامه ای به باشگاه آمد و نه در این مورد با مکاتبه ای صورت گرفت آنطور که من خبر دارم بعد از رفتن من هم چنین موضوعی مطرح نشده است.

Vali was banned for 2 years for using illegal substance . It was reported using Viagra on the night of his Wedding.

Today former TM member Hadi Aghili (Sepahan ) pointed to different treatments of Vali & AZahra.

ین مسئله خیلی جالب است و اگر کسی بخواهد آن را بررسی کند به زوایای جدیدی از اتفاقاتی که در لیگ می افتد می رسد. مگر آزمایش دوپینگ او مثبت اعلام نشده چرا با او برخوردی نشده و این موضوع رسما به رسانه ها گفته نشده اما سر ایوب والی چه آوردند؟ او یک بازیکن بسیار ساده است که ا

گر بدانید از چه طریق دوپینگ کرده خنده تان می گیرد

و افسوس می خوردید. چطور باید برای بازیکن خوبی مثل والی به این سرعت رای داده شود اما یک بازیکن عراقی به فوتبال ما آمده و 6 ماه قبل دوپینگ او مثبت اعلام شده ولی کسی حرفی نمی

زند

[jahandoost]

The AFC Disciplinary Committee met on 25 January 2015 following a protest lodged by I.R. Iran Football Federation on 23 January 2015 regarding the eligibility of Iraqi player, Alaa Abdul Zahrah Khashen Al-Azzawi, to participate in the quarterfinal match between I.R. Iran and Iraq on 23 January 2015.
The AFC Disciplinary Committee from 2:30pm heard oral evidence from two officials of the I.R. Iran Football Federation, deliberated the matter based on its merits, and decided that the protest was unfounded. The protest was therefore dismissed.
Due to the urgency of the matter, the terms of the decision were initially notified to the I.R. Iran Football Federation at 6:20pm. The full grounds of the decision will be communicated tonight in due course. The I. R. Iran Football Federation will have the right to file an appeal in accordance with the AFC Disciplinary Code.

What gives me a chuckle is that why IS IT NECESSARY TO HAVE 3 ROUNDS OF DISCUSSIONS IF YOU THINK ITS UNFOUNDED?

And gosh, unfounded means that basically there is no argument at ALL. Which is ironic since we had some legit documents. Atleast say that the argument was not fully developed, lacklustre etc etc but not unfounded.

I am sure they were busy in those "three rounds of discussion" trying to find a loophole.

[St_Mark]

Rafeiei also believe IFF has share of guilt in doping gate.


What is this with " متاسفانه بدون اینکه عمدی در کار باشد " ?

It's lawyer's spin for incompetency.

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غلامرضا رفيعي حقوقدان ورزشي تاکيد کرد که راي کنفدراسيون فوتبال آسيا در مورد ايران درست بود.

ب نقل از سایت فوتبال ایران، رفیعی در مورد رد شکایت فدراسیون فوتبال ایران بابت دوپینگی بودن بازیکن عراق می گوید:شکایت مسوولان فدراسیون فوتبال ایران کار درستی بود. ما نسبت به بازیکن دوپینگی عراق طبق مقررات بین المللی شکایت کردیم، اما هیچ کس نمی واند تضمینی برای قبول شکایت ایران داشته باشد. باوجود شکایت مسوولان فدراسیون فوتبال ایران اقدامات حقوقی دیرهنگام انجام شد و علاج واقعه بعد از وقوع بود. اقدام مسوولان فدراسیون فوتبال ایران قابل تقدیر است، اما رای اعلام شده مطابق مقررات، به درستی اعلام شده است. دلیل آن هم این است که. : آقای غلامرضا رفیعی سوابق علمی و پژوهشی : دانشنامه ليسانس حقوق قضايي از دانشکده حقوق و علوم سیاسی دانشگاه تهران. فوق ليسانس حقوق خصوصي از دانشکده علوم انسانی دانشگاه تربيت مدرس تهران. گذراندن دوره آموزشي International Claims Management and Casualty Control در موسسه Richards Hogg کشور انگلستان. گذراندن دوره آموزشي International Intellectual Property Law در موسسه HAWKSMERE کشور انگلستان. تدريس دروس حقوق تجارت و متون حقوقي به زبان انگليسي در چند دانشکده حقوق دانشگاه هاي تهران. تأليف چند جلد كتاب، و ارائه چندين مقاله و شرکت در سمينارها و كنفرانس هاي داخلي و بين المللي در زمينه هاي حقوق بازرگاني بين المللي، حقوق بین الملل و حقوق رسانه. سوابق كاري :

[eerooni]

I read all the news and listened to the comments and its obvious that IFF screwed this one up BIG TIME, if they had a solid case Im 100% sure AFC would not have the balls to brand it 'Baseless' instead they found a loophole during their 8 hour deliberation and threw the case out! So what we are all suffering more that what AFC does to us is what IFF does to us! Their incompetence is unheard of! Im 100% sure IFF is staffed with only goat herders and grocery store owners, and NONE of them speaks, writes or even comprehends English! I mean look at Kafashian( even his name stands is stupid!) the guy cant speak a word of English, tasked with running a federation where command of spoken and written English is A MUST! add to this, He has zero management skills, zero understanding of pro football and zero desire to rock the boat! Whatever penis AFC screws into Iranian football Kafashian only laughs it off!

I swear If they gave me IFF to run, I would destroy AFC. But that's not gonna happen as my lineage is not illiterate sheep herder or shoemaker!

[O-ZoNe]

Has this excerpt been shared before? http://sports.yahoo.com/news/iran-pr...4970--sow.html

An AFC statement released later said that the protest was "unfounded", without giving further details.

The decision follows several hours of closed-door talks in Sydney with Iraqi and Iranian delegates both giving evidence to the AFC's disciplinary committee.

It means 2007 champions Iraq, who won Friday's combustible match on penalties, are free to contest their semi-final against South Korea on Monday.

Iraqi coach Radhi Shenaishil insisted the 11th-hour protest had not distracted his team as they made final preparations for the last-four clash in Sydney.

"The objection has been officially closed and the subject is closed from our side," he told reporters at Stadium Australia. "We have nothing to add. The (protest) from the Iran team is something they created and hasn't affected us at all for tomorrow's match."

The AFC's decision also avoids the messy scenario of throwing out Iraq and reinstating Iran, which would probably also have meant rescheduling the semi-final.

Iran's protest centred on their claim that Abdulzehra, now playing for Iraq's Al Shorta, failed a drugs test while at Iranian club side Tractor Sazi last year.

According to documents seen by AFP, the 27-year-old tested positive for banned stimulant methylhexaneamine, in results that were verified by a WADA-approved laboratory in Cologne.

In an email exchange dated last September, world football body FIFA promised to take action but there is no record of a suspension for Abdulzehra.

Iranian officials raised the matter again with FIFA on January 21, the day after Iraq qualified for a quarter-final with their fierce rivals by finishing second in Group D.

[EKBATAN]

i believe it is possible that our documents were perhaps incomplete or something wasnt done right by IFF and they used that as an excuse to throw the case out. IFF is known for being a screw up and even if we do have a legit case when it comes to rules, regulations and court of law if you dont have your paperwork and present your case properly it becomes a loop hole for them to not accept it. i think most likely this is what happened. they dont care that we were right, they just wanted any old reason not to accept it.