Should Australia stay in the AFC?

[BehnamT]

Australia qualified through Europe in 1974, South America in 2006, Asia in 2010 and 2014. Whats your point?

1974 it was AFC/OCEANIA that had 1 spot for the world cup .
my point is that Australia decided to join AFC because they could not qualify to the WC via other rout. but as you said in 2006 miraculously they went through via south america. but the deal was already on the way to join AFC.
my point is , and again i want an answer to this, what did AFC countries gain from australian addition? and i said, australia is one of the 4 top team in asia, no doubt.
is it the professionalism? experience ? just answer it. what did , for example Uzbekistan gained from Australian addition?

[KC McElroy]

There is only 4 teams in Asia who are taken half seriously around the world and we get 4.5 spots its very generous IMO for the level as a whole.

I've said this many times, Asia gets too many teams as it is. If taking up a spot is the objection to Australia's presence than they shouldn't have been admitted to begin with. It's not like they suddenly became much stronger after joining AFC.

1974 it was AFC/OCEANIA that had 1 spot for the world cup .
my point is that Australia decided to join AFC because they could not qualify to the WC via other rout. but as you said in 2006 miraculously they went through via south america. but the deal was already on the way to join AFC.
my point is , and again i want an answer to this, what did AFC countries gain from australian addition? and i said, australia is one of the 4 top team in asia, no doubt.
is it the professionalism? experience ? just answer it. what did , for example Uzbekistan gained from Australian addition?

The answer is Asia is more competitive and Asia has a stronger case for keeping its World Cup spots.

[Oz1]

1974 it was AFC/OCEANIA that had 1 spot for the world cup .
my point is that Australia decided to join AFC because they could not qualify to the WC via other rout. but as you said in 2006 miraculously they went through via south america. but the deal was already on the way to join AFC.
my point is , and again i want an answer to this, what did AFC countries gain from australian addition? and i said, australia is one of the 4 top team in asia, no doubt.
is it the professionalism? experience ? just answer it. what did , for example Uzbekistan gained from Australian addition?

Uzbekistan gets to play against better opposition like Australia to improve its football instead of Turkmenistan and others. Australia gets to play Uzbekistan to improve its football instead of playing Fiji and others. Its a mutual benefit on the pitch. Off the pitch Uzbekistan gets to have access to a first world economy through closer ties and Australia gets access to Uzbeki emerging markets due to closer relationships created by football.

What more do you want? Should we build them brand new cities with your tax money? Everyone wins when you are interacting and playing and doing business.

[Oz1]

I've said this many times, Asia gets too many teams as it is. If taking up a spot is the objection to Australia's presence than they shouldn't have been admitted to begin with. It's not like they suddenly became much stronger after joining AFC.



The answer is Asia is more competitive and Asia has a stronger case for keeping its World Cup spots.

The reason Asia has 4.5 spots is for developing the game in the most populous region of the world and to grow the game its not to give a country like Uzbekistan a free fucking ride.

[Leopard]

If you are a leader and a champion you should become role model for others. If Australia behaves properly and does not discriminate against teams that want friendly matches and they are at same or near the same level.
TM is an example and now it is time to ask for a friendly and they they refuse then their reason is politically motivated and therefore the campaign to kick them out should start.
If they shows independence and do not mix politics with sport then keep them
There is not question that Arab teams suffer most due to presence of Australia. For the AFC cup and club championship as long as Australia sends redneck refs TM and mihani teams will have little chance to become champion.

[Leopard]

If you are a leader and a champion you should become role model for others. If Australia behaves properly and does not discriminate against teams that want friendly matches and they are at same or near the same level.
TM is an example and now it is time to ask for a friendly and they they refuse then their reason is politically motivated and therefore the campaign to kick them out should start.
If they shows independence and do not mix politics with sport then keep them
There is not question that Arab teams suffer most due to presence of Australia. For the AFC cup and club championship as long as Australia sends redneck refs TM and mihani teams will have little chance to become champion.

[BehnamT]

I've said this many times, Asia gets too many teams as it is. If taking up a spot is the objection to Australia's presence than they shouldn't have been admitted to begin with. It's not like they suddenly became much stronger after joining AFC.



The answer is Asia is more competitive and Asia has a stronger case for keeping its World Cup spots.

to say that Asia is now more competitive with Australian addition and therefore Asia can keep its number of WC place does not make sense. Africa has 5 spots and only 1 of them goes to the next round. so why not reduce the number to 2. and give it to Europe, hey why not just have Europe and america for the world cup and remove all the others as well.
and to be honest i prefer to reduce the Asians number rather than seeing arrogant Australia to have free ride!

[KC McElroy]

to say that Asia is now more competitive with Australian addition and therefore Asia can keep its number of WC place does not make sense. Africa has 5 spots and only 1 of them goes to the next round. so why not reduce the number to 2. and give it to Europe, hey why not just have Europe and america for the world cup and remove all the others as well.
and to be honest i prefer to reduce the Asians number rather than seeing arrogant Australia to have free ride!

I'm all for your suggestion. Africa also receives too many teams.

[elnino99]

People on here scared of any sort of competition that want Australia kicked out, yet the very same people make threads that we should join UEFA

you couldn't make it up.

If you think they get a free ride, it's because they are a good team. Plus, they really don't get a free ride. They qualified for 2014 WC on the last match-day. Just like us, and Korea.

[football.club]

Australia should remain in Asia and their presence will help to raise the level of football in this crappy AFC

[BehnamT]

compare to whom they are a good team? if they were a good team why the only time they qualified to the WC was through asia? ( except 06). why they did not join south america? because they will suck there. so at the expense of one asian team they will qualify and it is 99.9% chance that they will keep qualifying. noone is saying that "if" iran join europe will be free ride for iran (in fact it will be less than 0.01%), but the elimination will not be due to bad/ corrupt/ you name it/ officials.( although in WC 2014 we got a messed up ref as well).
the level of professionalism has not changed since they joined asia. as i said in other post, we are already getting crap ref and we dont need another federation to bring in F. up "referees".

[Doctor DOOM]

Well, Arabs are butt hurt because the Aussies have caught them on their grass rolling and unsporting behavior and have made some noise about it. So they can bugger off

Secondly, competition is good for us and helps elevate our game. I think they should stay.

Third. I see many people want them out. And I just can't help wonder if majority of those who wanted them out, if asked about joining UEFA, they'd say yes too!!!!
Really people, make your bloody minds up

[football.club]

People on here scared of any sort of competition that want Australia kicked out, yet the very same people make threads that we should join UEFA

Its better to play in UEFA (fair competition) and develop even if you lose a few games here and there and fail to qualify for big tournaments. Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan would have a much better chance to qualify for big tournaments in AFC but they choosed UEFA.

AFC = Headache, cheating, just shit

[PSGman#19]

to say that Asia is now more competitive with Australian addition and therefore Asia can keep its number of WC place does not make sense. Africa has 5 spots and only 1 of them goes to the next round. so why not reduce the number to 2. and give it to Europe, hey why not just have Europe and america for the world cup and remove all the others as well.
and to be honest i prefer to reduce the Asians number rather than seeing arrogant Australia to have free ride!

Why not doing a world cup between only Europeans and South Americans in that case?

[BehnamT]

Why not doing a world cup between only Europeans and South Americans in that case?

LOL you did not get my point did you? this was in response (in sarcasm form) to those people who are saying " it is great australia is in asia, that way asia will not lose any spot in the WC" . Micky mouse excuse to have a free ticket to every WC!