Asian Cup Final- Official Thread

[DireStraits]

Why does everything have to be antagonistic? Ive said a million times Williams is a shit ref. We have also both pointed out mistakes made by Farghani in his match too. What im trying to say is I don't think Farghani is a cheat and I don't think Williams is either. They both had poor games and both gave horrendous yellow cards. Unfortunately for Iran the dickhead Williams didn't realise he gave Pooladi an earlier horrendous yellow card so he had to show the red.

In your question about CQ I think Williams got the Iran/Iraq game to show other loud mouth coaches who calls the shots. CQ was an unproffesional idiot for what he did and he should know his place. You didn't see other coaches speaking smack when calls went against them. CQ cant go talking smack and trying to influence things because all coaches are nobodies.

You miss the point again. AFC should have known that the assignment of Iran Iraq game to BW would have caused problems. Maybe you don't know but Iran asked AFC to change this ref before the game.

[Oz1]

You miss the point again. AFC should have known that the assignment of Iran Iraq game to BW would have caused problems. Maybe you don't know but Iran asked AFC to change this ref before the game.

I know that. The AFC were reminding Iran and QC about who runs the show and keeping them in their lane. Once FA's and coaches can manipulate the appointment of referees you will have a clusterfuck. If you told your boss how to run his business you would get the same results. CQ was an idiot and should have shut his mouth.

[nmssis]

guys here's a longer video of our players getting their asses kicked by Uzbeks. would Persian players have done something differently? I'm embarrassed to see these guys act like a bunch of pussies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0xZGQbryI

[ali alipour]

I know that. The AFC were reminding Iran and QC about who runs the show and keeping them in their lane. Once FA's and coaches can manipulate the appointment of referees you will have a clusterfuck. If you told your boss how to run his business you would get the same results. CQ was an idiot and should have shut his mouth.

not sure if you are a troll or being serious but if you are being serious then you are a very stupid person.

[Lorestani]

guys here's a longer video of our players getting their asses kicked by Uzbeks. would Persian players have done something differently? I'm embarrassed to see these guys act like a bunch of pussies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0xZGQbryI

Which game is this?

[babak_australia]

I know that. The AFC were reminding Iran and QC about who runs the show and keeping them in their lane. Once FA's and coaches can manipulate the appointment of referees you will have a clusterfuck. If you told your boss how to run his business you would get the same results. CQ was an idiot and should have shut his mouth.

Brother I generally like what you say but there is naivety in your comments here.

IF AFC was making a statement that you cant fuck with them by giving us a referee where our coach was fined then that is in itself a 'clusterfuck' (whatever that means.) You have allowed a ref with recent history (2 games ago) to officiate in such an important game. It is human nature to have feelings and CQ showed them in game 1 and unfortunately BW retaliated in game 2. The first yellow card was embarrassing for the game of football. The yellow for simulation which happens 100 times a game with West Asian teams was just as embarrassing. You chose to penalize a player who in front of your face was ACTUALLY pushed. I'm sorry but that is not on and the AFC has made a serious error in the appointment of BW for that match. To me it is extremely fishy that this happened and I am NOT a conspiracy theorist.

[DireStraits]

I know that. The AFC were reminding Iran and QC about who runs the show and keeping them in their lane. Once FA's and coaches can manipulate the appointment of referees you will have a clusterfuck. If you told your boss how to run his business you would get the same results. CQ was an idiot and should have shut his mouth.

This is the most dictatory comment I have ever read. First of all CQ has coached Manchester United and R Madrid. He is not exactly no body. These are Things they tell you in your country. I am readig in reuiter that Fifa has seen the need for upgrading the referees in AFC. This has happeed since CQ has reported BW to Fifa.
Second even if AFC deceids who should be the ref in that game they are also responsible to see if BW is doing his job right. CQ said that BW is not at the level of these games. That is why you call him an idiot. But He proved his point when BW wrongfully called a penalty in UZ vs Saudi game and gave a red Card to Pooladi in Iran vs Iraq.
A World is critisizing Asian referees now.
Africa is doing better than Asia and AFC. This is a disaster since we are rich in this part of the World. Australia Japan South Korea Saudi Arabia ....Iran Qatar are rich counries compare to Africa. AFC has poor management Mafia ...
BTW: Don't call me poor loser Again. We did not lose to Aus we lost to BW

This what B. Williams didn't want to see

[nmssis]

Which game is this?

It's Kings Cup for u-22 that happened earlier today.

[DireStraits]

guys here's a longer video of our players getting their asses kicked by Uzbeks. would Persian players have done something differently? I'm embarrassed to see these guys act like a bunch of pussies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF0xZGQbryI

Have you Guys learned any thing from Bruce Lee or Jacky Johns?
Any way the ref acted right. He was better than Benjamin Williams.

[Kiarash]

In your question about CQ I think Williams got the Iran/Iraq game to show other loud mouth coaches who calls the shots. CQ was an unproffesional idiot for what he did and he should know his place. You didn't see other coaches speaking smack when calls went against them. CQ cant go talking smack and trying to influence things because all coaches are nobodies.

Mods, ban this tool already. I am not the only one who gets extremely pissed when reading the posts of some Aussie trash talking our team and coach, how he has been around for so long is beyond me.

You are a guest to this forum, don't act like you play the game here.

[babak_australia]

Mods, ban this tool already. I am not the only one who gets extremely pissed when reading the posts of some Aussie trash talking our team and coach, how he has been around for so long is beyond me.

You are a guest to this forum, don't act like you play the game here.

To be honest I thought he has been OK until this thread.

It has all been ruined for him now though. Managers all over the world are constantly getting fined for talking about refs and the funny thing is those refs rarely if EVER retaliate in the way Williams did.

Look at Wenger who is constantly in the ear of the 4th official or Mourinho who comes out and says this ref did this or that. Yet the next game they cross paths again all is ok again. CQ purely said the ref is not to the level he should be and Williams retaliated.

I say it once I say it 10000 times. A chip on the shoulder of a ref cost 80 million people their happiness. What a petty excuse for a human.

1. Williams should be removed from AFC and FIFA as he obviously can't play above his emotions.
2. Maybe Australians holier-then-thou actions can be put to bed as Williams has shown that Aussies can also be petty and vengeful. (I am born and raised in Australia so I have a right to say what I do. I am sick of Australians thinking they are above it all. I saw plenty of dives and plenty of players who magically recovered as soon as they got to the side line. Everyone in the world does it yet Aussies act like they dont. Its why I dont like Australian football. I on the other hand love Australian cricket and rugby national teams.)

[Oz1]

Mods, ban this tool already. I am not the only one who gets extremely pissed when reading the posts of some Aussie trash talking our team and coach, how he has been around for so long is beyond me.

You are a guest to this forum, don't act like you play the game here.

Someone asked me why I thought AFC MAY HAVE decided to use him. I answered the question.

You are also a "guest" to this forum so I suggest you take your own advice and watch your mouth.

[Oz1]

Brother I generally like what you say but there is naivety in your comments here.
IF AFC was making a statement that you cant fuck with them by giving us a referee where our coach was fined then that is in itself a 'clusterfuck' (whatever that means.) You have allowed a ref with recent history (2 games ago) to officiate in such an important game. It is human nature to have feelings and CQ showed them in game 1 and unfortunately BW retaliated in game 2. The first yellow card was embarrassing for the game of football. The yellow for simulation which happens 100 times a game with West Asian teams was just as embarrassing. You chose to penalize a player who in front of your face was ACTUALLY pushed. I'm sorry but that is not on and the AFC has made a serious error in the appointment of BW for that match. To me it is extremely fishy that this happened and I am NOT a conspiracy theorist.

Hey man someone insisted I try to come up with a reason why they appointed BW for the game. I cannot and nobody cannot know for certain the reason behind this decision I just gave my opinion and that is the AFC brass think their shit don't stink and wont put up with anyone trying to or be seen to be manipulating or undermining their decisions. This angle is true of many sociopathic types who end up in high positions especially in heavily political areas
On the same token I don't think BW cheated because we in Australia KNOW he is a shit ref. We see him week in and week out. Im sorry if some mouthbreathers here will only accept the "conspiracy" angle. Its so old and tiring bro.

[RaginG Inferno]

Hey man someone insisted I try to come up with a reason why they appointed BW for the game. I cannot and nobody cannot know for certain the reason behind this decision I just gave my opinion and that is the AFC brass think their shit don't stink and wont put up with anyone trying to or be seen to be manipulating or undermining their decisions. This angle is true of many sociopathic types who end up in high positions especially in heavily political areas
On the same token I don't think BW cheated because we in Australia KNOW he is a shit ref. We see him week in and week out. Im sorry if some mouthbreathers here will only accept the "conspiracy" angle. Its so old and tiring bro.

You have no understanding of the context of our complaints, which is why you easily dismiss them - although that's understandable as you've not followed Asian Football or Iranian soccer for long.

We were fucked over in 1992 against Japan, 1996 against Saudi Arabia, 2000, 2004 against China and now 2015 against Iraq.

If it happens once, it's unfortunate. When it's recurring, it's dodgy.

There are many Arab countries in the AFC and they gave great sway over the confederation. Generally, Arab governments are anti-Iranian and this manifests itself in football.

[Dejagah#21]

Hey man someone insisted I try to come up with a reason why they appointed BW for the game. I cannot and nobody cannot know for certain the reason behind this decision I just gave my opinion and that is the AFC brass think their shit don't stink and wont put up with anyone trying to or be seen to be manipulating or undermining their decisions. This angle is true of many sociopathic types who end up in high positions especially in heavily political areas
On the same token I don't think BW cheated because we in Australia KNOW he is a shit ref. We see him week in and week out. Im sorry if some mouthbreathers here will only accept the "conspiracy" angle. Its so old and tiring bro.

I have told you once before but you are to stupid to understand, so I repeat: DO NOT express your views regarding matters that are beyond your comprehension. It's embarrassing!