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    Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
    Because the team sucks. They have a bunch of in-form players, such as Sardar Azmoun, Amir Arsalan Motahari - and they can't do nothing a team that doesn't even have a state! Khakpour has shown what an idiot he is.
    Azeez, this is Khakpour's 2nd competitive game in charge of TM - that's if you can even consider the Nepal game as "cometitive"!

    He's a coach not a peyghambar to perform miracles and take the team from finishing last in the Asian Games to being the best team in the world in 3 months. You forgot how we played in CQ's 2nd competitive game against the Maldives?

    Plus, we've had more chances in this game than we did in all of our group games in the Asian Cup and it could have been 4-0 already. Not saying that makes Khakpur a better coach, but it certainly doesn't make him shitty coach. Let's be a little fair - just a little.

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      The desperate need for Sardar and Jahanbakhsh is a fundamental flaw of many Iranian coaches. Of course, any coach in the world would love to have their superstars 100% of the time. However, our national teams at different levels desperately rely on them for a result. There's not so much of a system as there are a select 2-3 players who must do everything themselves. This is one of the fundamental differences we're seeing in our senior side under CQ as opposed to the past where it would be the 'Daei show' or the 'Karimi show'. Now, we have a system wherein everyone contributes equally and pieces can be replaced if needs be without a major loss of quality. To me, that's more resonant of a true 'team'.

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        Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
        You outdid yourself Doctor Doom. Compared of the ferocity of your criticism of CQ, who brings us great results vs. good teams, compared to the shit-show that Iranian coaches bring vs. crap teams. Even our enemies (Iraqis) are rejoicing once they heard CQ is leaving.

        People like Martin Reza, Nader and Rugs are the main reasons to still come to the game compared to the scores of ridiculous pseudo-analysts who use this forum to spill their own shit all over and act like hypocrites.
        My post was about making snipe remarks while an IRANIAN individual is trying to lead a bunch of YOUNG Iranians despite all the lacks and hardship, just to side with an irrational decision taken by CQ, ... that too while our Omid team is playing and still has a chance.
        He may not like khakpour. No problem. And if khakpour fails, then critique him. No problem again. But not because CQ os on the other side. Because he fails or ... .

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          regardless of all that omid will win this game 3-0

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            Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
            Azeez, this is Khakpour's 2nd competitive game in charge of TM - that's if you can even consider the Nepal game as "cometitive"!

            He's a coach not a peyghambar to perform miracles and take the team from finishing last in the Asian Games to being the best team in the world in 3 months.

            Plus, we've had more chances in this game than we did in all of our group games in the Asian Cup and it could have been 4-0 already, so let's be a little fair.
            Compare the talent inequality and disparity between Iran and Palestine and you will see the huge difference. Yet that doesn't translate on the field. He has very little coaching experience because he's pretty terrible - not even in the IPL!

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              Originally posted by K. Nader View Post
              The desperate need for Sardar and Jahanbakhsh is a fundamental flaw of many Iranian coaches. Of course, any coach in the world would love to have their superstars 100% of the time. However, our national teams at different levels desperately rely on them for a result. There's not so much of a system as there are a select 2-3 players who must do everything themselves. This is one of the fundamental differences we're seeing in our senior side under CQ as opposed to the past where it would be the 'Daei show' or the 'Karimi show'. Now, we have a system wherein everyone contributes equally and pieces can be replaced if needs be without a major loss of quality. To me, that's more resonant of a true 'team'.
              That is exactly it. There is no system in any Iranian coach's tactics. We are winning this game cause of the huge talent gap we have. To be honest, Palestine has a better system and played with better tactics.

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                Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
                Azeez, this is Khakpour's 2nd competitive game in charge of TM - that's if you can even consider the Nepal game as "cometitive"!
                He's a coach not a peyghambar to perform miracles and take the team from finishing last in the Asian Games to being the best team in the world in 3 months. You forgot how we played in CQ's 2nd competitive game against the Maldives?
                Plus, we've had more chances in this game than we did in all of our group games in the Asian Cup and it could have been 4-0 already. Not saying that makes Khakpur a better coach, but it certainly doesn't make him shitty coach. Let's be a little fair - just a little.
                And Palestine has created more scoring opportunities in one half than all our group games in Asia Cup.

                The funny thing is Bi-Honar (despite liking you a lot as a person, from what I know) you are completely blind when it comes to Iranian football. You were yesterday criticizing CQ's team for "sitting back" in the lat 30 minutes after being up 2-0 vs. a powerhouse of a team like Chile!

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                  Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                  Compare the talent inequality and disparity between Iran and Palestine and you will see the huge difference. Yet that doesn't translate on the field. He has very little coaching experience because he's pretty terrible - not even in the IPL!
                  And it didn't in CQ's 2nd competitive game in charge of TM against Maldives with a 1-0 result. The argument was that it takes time (and a valid argument at that). So, why the different standards?

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                    Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
                    And it didn't in CQ's 2nd competitive game in charge of TM against Maldives with a 1-0 result. The argument was that it takes time (and a valid argument at that). So, why the different standards?
                    Because CQ was implementing a comprehensive system that would use our weak points (defense) into a strength. He had a long term vision and we are seeing the fruits of it and have for a while now. Khakpour, who has little experience, what are his coaching requirements Bi Honar? What is his vision? Tell me.

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                      Problem is ppl take their frustrations on CQ's highly irrational behavior of quitting over a couple of players, over poor khakpour.
                      As if one is forced to choose between khakpour and CQ. Not so. Think a little.
                      CQ didn't need to quit. This was NO reason to quit for anyone with a little sense. So don't vilify lhakpour who's doing his job as best as he is able (which may not be much). But damn it, this is Iran's future team. Your desire to support CQ for however an irrational decision should not over ride your support for our own bloody country

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                        Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                        The funny thing is Bi-Honar (despite liking you a lot as a person, from what I know) you are completely blind when it comes to Iranian football. You were yesterday criticizing CQ's team for "sitting back" in the lat 30 minutes after being up 2-0 vs. a powerhouse of a team like Chile!
                        Where did I criticize TM for sitting back in the last 30 minutes of game where we were up 2-0 bro?! All I said was that if played like that from the start, the results wouldn't have been 2-0. Do you disagree with that?!

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                          Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                          Because CQ was implementing a comprehensive system that would use our weak points (defense) into a strength. He had a long term vision and we are seeing the fruits of it and have for a while now. Khakpour, who has little experience, what are his coaching requirements Bi Honar? What is his vision? Tell me.
                          If you really saw CQ's vision and long term plan in that Maldives game (rather than in hindsight), you're right I am blind watching football.

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                            And stop a fool of yourselves by making remarks about the style of play or fluidity. You ought to know better at this age group, given how miserable we prepare or care for them, even this half arsed display is beyond expectation

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                              Amir arsalan scores. Iran 2 - Palestine 0

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                                Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                                Because CQ was implementing a comprehensive system that would use our weak points (defense) into a strength. He had a long term vision and we are seeing the fruits of it and have for a while now. Khakpour, who has little experience, what are his coaching requirements Bi Honar? What is his vision? Tell me.
                                Who said our defense was our weak point when CQ came. We had only conceded 2 goals in 4 matches in the Asian Cup before he came. Plus a 1-0 Over Russia. Our Defense fine under Ghotbi. Stop making up stuff just to make CQ seems like a god.

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