Jean Ghafourian, Iranian playing for Bayer Leverkusen U-17

[Zamboor]

Lol? I thought Transfermarkt is pretty accurate, that's where I get my information from. The member who I quoted asked me a question based on a comparison between Saeid and Martin, and I gave an answer. Simple as that.

You quoted me and said that SAEEID IS AAWESOME IM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG NOW CASE CLOSED (thats exactly what your respons was)

[Kiarash]

You quoted me and said that SAEEID IS AAWESOME IM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG NOW CASE CLOSED (thats exactly what your respons was)

Sure thing.

[Zamboor]

Sure thing.

Then why did you even mention said in that post of mine? explain that to me?

[ali alipour]

Even if this Martin guy was playing in the Swedish league that alone shouldn't merit a call up. He should be playing well to get called up especially in a league that is not that great of a European league. Also, these guys' positions should be considered. Martin plays rb where there is already so much depth in tm. If he was a left back or am then there's more of an argument but literally no reason to call him up when we have ghafouri, rezaei an, montazeri, even beitashour, and many more.

[AsOen5]

At transfermarkt you are a single person who takes care of a league (at least when you are the administrator of Persian Gulf League ) as no one cares about Iran, Sometimes I do mistakes or don't fill in every information, I can imagine that the swedish 2. League Administrator have to deal with the same problem.
So dont take tm.de as your only source

[O-ZoNe]

At transfermarkt you are a single person who takes care of a league (at least when you are the administrator of Persian Gulf League ) as no one cares about Iran, Sometimes I do mistakes or don't fill in every information, I can imagine that the swedish 2. League Administrator have to deal with the same problem.
So dont take tm.de as your only source

Do a better job so we can make sure you are a credible source lol...kidding, keep uo the hard word!

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[Z Joon]

Official games are friendlies on fifa set dates. So if we play Bangladesh on a fifa friendly day that is an official game.

My point is that you can't get cap-tied in friendlies as far as I know.

[O-ZoNe]

My point is that you can't get cap-tied in friendlies as far as I know.

If it is a fifa sanctioned A match then you can.

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[Afat11]

For anyone who didn't read my full post, I never said to cap-tie every single Iranian playing abroad. I said to invite them to a camp to see who shines. If none are good enough, let them go.

Secondly, I made the point about Saeid that everyone else is making. We only support his inclusion in TM because we know him. People have already said this to back me up. This is a poor attitude to have, as you could not know a player that could be very good. A guy named Ashkan Dejagah wasn't necessarily as known to Iranians as, say, Ali Karimi or Mehdi Mahdavikia in 2009, but I sure as hell think that in those years when he was winning the Bundesliga, he could have been an asset to TM. There were grumblings about him, and many were against his inclusion, but he would have made TM better, despite being young.

Right now, we know the Sardars and Jahanbakhshes of the world. They're our modern Karimis and Mahdavikias, but again, we will let a player go for so long without any contact from Iran that the next Ashkan Dejagah may pull a Behrang Safari! Invite them to a camp, let them become familiar with Iranian football. No need to cap-tie them. Meeting the TM players, and visiting Iran will make the right player happy to play for TM.

[ali alipour]

Unless they changed the rules only official competitive games like wcq can be used to cap tie and not friendlies no matter if they are on Fifa days

[Z Joon]

Jean Ghafourian, Iranian playing for Bayer Leverkusen U-17

Unless they changed the rules only official competitive games like wcq can be used to cap tie and not friendlies no matter if they are on Fifa days

Yup, Jermaine Jones for ex played 3 friendlies for Germany but then switched to USA permanently afterwards.

[O-ZoNe]

Yup, Jermaine Jones for ex played 3 friendlies for Germany but then switched to USA permanently afterwards.

Guess you are right. Did you write this wiki

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap-tied

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[Z Joon]

Jean Ghafourian, Iranian playing for Bayer Leverkusen U-17

Guess you are right. Did you write this wiki

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap-tied

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na baba it happens often, look at Diego Costa who played 2 friendlies for Brazil before switching to Spain by playing in the World Cup

[Camran khan]

.. A guy named Ashkan Dejagah wasn't necessarily as known to Iranians as, say, Ali Karimi or Mehdi Mahdavikia in 2009, but I sure as hell think that in those years when he was winning the Bundesliga, he could have been an asset to TM. There were grumblings about him, and many were against his inclusion, but he would have made TM better, despite being young.

Unless I missunderstood your post, why are you comparing a Bundesliga winner to some youth players who have just a handfull of caps for their seniorteam (if even that) in a 2nd rate league? (Compared to Bundesliga)


Btw Zamboor, I don't agree on that mentality that we should cap tie them so they have no where else to go, for instance, that Martin guy plays in the u21 Allsvenskan, that is not exactly a very good level, and as you said he has been called up to the swedish u19, but he hasn't played there yet, and I don't see the sense in calling him up to TM to cap tie him, but rather (if he is good enough, I have no idea about specifically him but talking more in general about Iranian players abroad) invite him to our youth teams, and see if he wants to join, if he wants to, fine, then when he develops and gets to TM level, he will be invited, what's the point of capping him so he is stuck with TM if that is not where his heart is.

TM players should be proud to represent TM, not feel forced to by being cap tied lol.

[Camran khan]

Zanjanchi - IFK Goteburg - Allsvenskan

He plays in the u21 Allsvenskan.