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    Scolari. No reason we can't get him. He has coached in Asia (e.g., Bonyukdor) and is currently coaching a Brazilian club. I think he would relish at a chance to re-lick his WC wounds and return to the biggest stage! Time for some S. American Samba football for TM!
    Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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      Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
      Scolari. No reason we can't get him. He has coached in Asia (e.g., Bonyukdor) and is currently coaching a Brazilian club. I think he would relish at a chance to re-lick his WC wounds and return to the biggest stage! Time for some S. American Samba football for TM!
      I think you forgot how hard Scolari got exposed at the WC. He still had great players at his disposal despite losing Neymar and Silva.
      There's a reason he's currently coaching a no-name Brazillian club.

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        Originally posted by Navid_M View Post
        I think you forgot how hard Scolari got exposed at the WC. He still had great players at his disposal despite losing Neymar and Silva.

        There's a reason he's currently coaching a no-name Brazillian club.
        Nope, didn't forget it at all, and in another thread I mentioned everyone has a bad day, and this is further motivation for him to want to return to the WC and perform a miracle...and TM can be that avenue for him.

        Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
        After the WC, I was very impressed with some of the S. American coaches. I personally do not believe any Iranian coach at the moment is ready to take on the team (we have guys like Hashemian, Mansourian, and others in the future but not for 2018). Jorge Luis Pinto was without a job after leaving Costa Rica and was picked up by Honduras in December. I think he would have taken the Iran job if he was offered a decent contract (prob not as large as what CQ is getting). Oscar Tabarez, Jose Pekermen...Pekermen was negotiating with Columbia when we were negotiating with CQ...options existed and still do. I really feel we could do well with more of a S. American influence (like what Viera did with our 98 squad)...we have tried the European experiment and change while not always easy, can be very positive!
        I mean if Bunyodkor of Uzbekistan could afford to hire Felipe Scolari why can't TM. I know he didn't have a great WC, but everyone has a bad day...Scolari as coach of TM would be a dream and he is coaching some Brazilian club team at present!
        Also, don't forget Big Felipe has won the WC, coached and knows Asia well (club teams in Kuwait, UAE, Uzbekistan, Japan, and Kuwaiti NT) as well as big name teams like Brazil, Portugal, Chelsea, Juventus...so his resume speaks for itself. Certainly very impressive. Not sure you can really be exposed by being beaten by the German WC champs. Bad loss, yep...ugly...definitely...exposed? Probably not given the pressures his team was facing and that clearly his players buckled against a formidable foe. Oh btw, last time I checked, Gremio is not a no name Brazilain club team. Actually a very storied club but I think a NT can be a very impressive carrot to dangle for him.
        Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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          ^ & ^^

          Where IFF get the money for Scolari ?

          Scolari vs Houthi ? Toss up ? no way no- brainer Houthis win.

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            true
            lets not forget that irrelevant of all the BS excuses and bahanehz given by CQ, he is essentially leaving because IFF is broke and cant afford his services and demands ..!!

            all signs point towards a cheap Iranian/ 3rd rate eastern erupean coach NEXT..!!

            of the affordable options, especially amongst domestic coaches Mansurian is by far the best alternative.

            ps
            doubt if Mansurian would leave his club duties to just take over TM as a temp. caretaker too..!! ????
            so IFF may have to offer him the position on a more permanent basis..!! and then fire him if things go south..

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              Originally posted by St_Mark View Post
              ^ & ^^
              Where IFF get the money for Scolari ?
              Scolari vs Houthi ? Toss up ? no way no- brainer Houthis win.
              Well $2.5 million for CQ...even at the time of the WC CQ was making more than Pekermen (Colombia) and Sampoali (Chile)...don't even get me started on guys like Pinto because they made far less than CQ did. So maybe Scolari might not come, but "sang moft gonjishk moft"...or "nothing ventured nothing gained"...reality is, CQ is not going to continue with Iran...options exist!

              Originally posted by BacheLot View Post
              doubt if Mansurian would leave his club duties to just take over TM as a temp. caretaker too..!! ????
              so IFF may have to offer him the position on a more permanent basis..!! and then fire him if things go south..

              This is exactly why I don't want Mansourian or Hashemian. Why should we make these guys sacrificial lambs? They have bright futures and potentials to assist our football, so why do we want to use them as "temps" or anything else if they are not ready. IMO Embrahimzadeh is a quality Iranian coach, who hasn't had a fare shot (besides being TM temp coach) at the NT level. Even so, I wouldn't want Mansour Ebrahimzadeh to be our coach unless every suitable international candidate says no to Iran...which is unlikely! If IFF could pay CQ $2+ million for 4 years and then give him a $2.5 million raise after WC, no reason we can't get other coaches with even more impressive resumes than CQs to coach TM.
              Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                Well $2.5 million for CQ...even at the time of the WC CQ was making more than Pekermen (Colombia) and Sampoali (Chile)...don't even get me started on guys like Pinto because they made far less than CQ did. So maybe Scolari might not come, but "sang moft gonjishk moft"...or "nothing ventured nothing gained"...reality is, CQ is not going to continue with Iran...options exist!
                This is exactly why I don't want Mansourian or Hashemian. Why should we make these guys sacrificial lambs? They have bright futures and potentials to assist our football, so why do we want to use them as "temps" or anything else if they are not ready. IMO Embrahimzadeh is a quality Iranian coach, who hasn't had a fare shot (besides being TM temp coach) at the NT level. Even so, I wouldn't want Mansour Ebrahimzadeh to be our coach unless every suitable international candidate says no to Iran...which is unlikely! If IFF could pay CQ $2+ million for 4 years and then give him a $2.5 million raise after WC, no reason we can't get other coaches with even more impressive resumes than CQs to coach TM.



                those countries you mention are countries with a functional football federation. We have a dysfunctional FF with a corrupt government that has a habit of holding outgoing coaches at the airport. That's at least an additional 2M premium you have to pay on top of standard salary they will ask for, just to consider Iran as an option.
                “It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

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                  Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post
                  those countries you mention are countries with a functional football federation. We have a dysfunctional FF with a corrupt government that has a habit of holding outgoing coaches at the airport. That's at least an additional 2M premium you have to pay on top of standard salary they will ask for, just to consider Iran as an option.
                  Ok, Hondurus, Algeria, Costa Rica, Columbia, Ecuador...they have all signed great coaches...many of them have substandard federations as well (if you have time google search them and you will see they have major issues as well).

                  E.g.: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Venezuela.html

                  People always demand the most from their teams and federations, as they should. This is not limited to us and our crappy federation. We are not the only ones with problems and as others have posted, money always talks. We were attractive enough for CQ to come, certainly for Vingada, Kranjar, Blazevic, and countless others...
                  Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                    Looking at the poll, Mansourian rightfully gets the most votes as the domestic choice. That guy is hands down the best coach in IPL. Interestingly, he also happens to be an outspoken supporter of CQ

                    Dejagah, Gucci, Mansourian, all in favor of CQ staying, and on the other side, well...

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                      Originally posted by xerexes View Post
                      Looking at the poll, Mansourian rightfully gets the most votes as the domestic choice. That guy is hands down the best coach in IPL. Interestingly, he also happens to be an outspoken supporter of CQ

                      Dejagah, Gucci, Mansourian, all in favor of CQ staying, and on the other side, well...
                      Did your record player break or are you just constantly repeating yourself? We get it, CQ has your support along with many other individuals...time to move on it's almost game time.
                      Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                        Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
                        Did your record player break or are you just constantly repeating yourself? We get it, CQ has your support along with many other individuals...time to move on it's almost game time.
                        The guy who keeps posting the same "CQ sux" crap over and over is talking about broken records

                        Don't get me wrong though, I do get why you don't want to be reminded how ridiculous it is that you think you know better than the entire national squad AND the best Iranian coach. I can't blame you.

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                          Originally posted by xerexes View Post
                          The guy who keeps posting the same "CQ sux" crap over and over is talking about broken records

                          Don't get me wrong though, I do get why you don't want to be reminded how ridiculous it is that you think you know better than the entire national squad AND the best Iranian coach. I can't blame you.
                          Show me once where I said CQ sux. I voted neutral on CQ...neither approve nor disapprove. I have been saying if CQ leaves we have options, if he stays, hope he delivers.
                          Remember RESPECT BEGETS RESPECT & Zob Ahan

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                            Originally posted by TM homeboy View Post
                            Mansourian has done well in IPL with a very mediocre young team, he was an assistant under Ghotbi and CQ. I am sure Ghotbi transferred a lot of knowledge learn from Advocaat and Heddnik to Mansourian. As did CQ.
                            He headed Omid team and his only experience as TM head coach was our game against Russia in which we won.
                            it may be too early for him but in this context of choices among vatani coaches and foreign coaches that know Iranian football he is the best choice. I wouldn't risk bringing a foreign coach that is not accutomed to IFF, IRI and Iran culture. It will be a big risk.
                            from bad and worst Mansourian is the best choice.
                            He needs to win IPL at least once to even be on this poll IMO.

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                              I would the say IF CQ leaves, there is no chance the incompetent IFF can bring some one from outside before June, so Mansourian would be my option for now, til we can find right guy for the job
                              IRI = FAILED

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                                IF cq leaves my preferred choice would be his assistant Oceano, he has been with TM for a year and has shown gheyrat and heart from the sidelines, he seems to know cqs system and could probably continue a long the same line. He previously coaches Portugal U-21, Sporting Lisbon, and Sporting B.

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