Who should replace Carlos Quiros, if he is gone for good.

[sarbaz]

I believe Mansourian or Gol mohhammadi are the only 2 people that have a good enough personlity and character to coach TM

[NFL]

If CQ had resigned, why is he still with the team?
Doesn't make sense.
IR can't pay. Carlos can't get paid.
it's a game. Quit or Fire?
IR doesn't have the money (nor the balls) to fire carlos. cuz they got to pay him if they do.
But Carlos must go cuz there is no money.
He is too proud to be talked down like he was by IR guy in the meeting. maybe he will go on his own. IR pays less money that way.

Carlos Qeiroz is the greatest football coach ever to coach in Iran. Ever!!

but all good things must come to an end. So I am not crying over it.

If Carlos walks, I take Vingada...
Poor man's Carlos Qeiroz.

[Siavash]

Money gets the best of almost anyone.

[Z Joon]

bro,

you really think all those Iranian coaches would pass up the opportunity to coach TM? the only one I can confidently see doing that is hashemian. a big MAYBE to masourian as well but I highly doubt the likes of GN, faraki, golmo, etc. with all their big egos pass up the opportunity if it presents itself to them, just my opinion.

the second half I completely agree with. I don't think we will see another big name foreign coach after CQ and see kranjcar and skocic as the only candidates with a shot at being considered. I hope im wrong as another quality big name coach in the same calibour as CQ is what we need, but I feel that Kranjcar or oliviera would be the next best options given they have handled big clubs/NTs with big expectations.

the skocic marker combo would be nice too. I was a huge fan of skocic since he was in malavan and is a very modern coach but im not 100% confident he could handle the pressue of a big team like TM, hes never coached any team of that level. don't get me wrong he could totally kill it in every way but at the same time theres that risk with him not being familiar/able to handle the big job.

If I had to predict right now, I would say no. For the unique reason that the expectations are hight ATM, and if god forbid we get a similar ride to WCQ as the 2010 ones, that Iranian coach's career would be pretty much over. Faraki would be the one I could see become the headcoach but hopefully it doesn't happen he screwed up my favorite IPL team I don't think he will handle coaching TM

And yeah Skocic didn't coach any team of TM's caliber before but I can definitely see him do well. Out of all the guys in the poll IMO he would be the least risky option, his teams play great football, organized defensively as well as offensively. I have a feeling he would be great and at the same time cheap for IFF who probably already have him on their radar.

Contrarily to the majority out there I look forward to this new chapter of TM, a new style, new strategies, different player selections. And I am not one of those melodramatic fans who believe we are Afghanistan without Carlos, CQ coached teams like UAE before and didn't make anything out of them.

Some of TM players would probably laugh and be ashamed of their "fans" if they were shown some of the PFDC messages of people that come up saying "we have 10% chance of making it to Russia now that CQ is gone" We are a naturally talented nation and have always consistently been one of the top 4 nations in Asia regardless of who the coach was. Most of the drama here just makes us Iranians look bad and weak.

[Ghermez Agha]

If I had to predict right now, I would say no. For the unique reason that the expectations are hight ATM, and if god forbid we get a similar ride to WCQ as the 2010 ones, that Iranian coach's career would be pretty much over. Faraki would be the one I could see become the headcoach but hopefully it doesn't happen he screwed up my favorite IPL team I don't think he will handle coaching TM

And yeah Skocic didn't coach any team of TM's caliber before but I can definitely see him do well. Out of all the guys in the poll IMO he would be the least risky option, his teams play great football, organized defensively as well as offensively. I have a feeling he would be great and at the same time cheap for IFF who probably already have him on their radar.

Contrarily to the majority out there I look forward to this new chapter of TM, a new style, new strategies, different player selections. And I am not one of those melodramatic fans who believe we are Afghanistan without Carlos, CQ coached teams like UAE before and didn't make anything out of them.

Some of TM players would probably laugh and be ashamed of their "fans" if they were shown some of the PFDC messages of people that come up saying "we have 10% chance of making it to Russia now that CQ is gone" We are a naturally talented nation and have always consistently been one of the top 4 nations in Asia regardless of who the coach was. Most of the drama here just makes us Iranians look bad and weak.

agree with everything but the bold.

first part of it, agreed.....we are talented. but consistent? if we are consistent why have we only been in 4 WC's in our history? I know that's better than most asain teams but nowhere nearly as successful as SK, Japan (both consistent WC participants from 98 to present, SK from 94 onward) and even Saudi who participated in 4 consecutive WCs. yes they got dominated in half those tournaments but for Asian teams the primary goal is to just be a participant in the WC, not to get good results. this lack of consistency by in large is due to poor planning from IFF, constant appointment of incompetent coaches (mayeli, GN, Daie, etc.), and topped off with even more corruption/garbage. Iran always has the potential to do something special for the reason you named: the talent of our players but seems to fall short half the time because of the reasons I listed.

I definitely think the ppl who say we have a 10% chance of making it to Russia are making a mockery out of themselves but their initial concern is 100% valid IMO which is that if we follow the same trend we have followed in the past we are going straight down hill, regardless of our talent. just look at post 98' TM and you will have your answer.

[kami_kakashi]

I don't think any TM fan thinks with CQ we have seen the best of Iranian football. There is always room for huge improvements.
I disagree that Iranian football at the moment has a lot to offer. Our results in ACL, U16, U19, Asian Games and the style that we play to me is a clear give away of a second tier Asian footballing nation. With CQ we managed to compete at the top level relying on tactics and discipline instead of individual talent.

I love to see a fluid attacking football from TM but I have seen enough football in my life and been around Iranian football to know that we don't have the tools for it. The bit that gives me headache is that people think it is CQ's fault that we have declined so much.


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[Z Joon]

agree with everything but the bold.

first part of it, agreed.....we are talented. but consistent? if we are consistent why have we only been in 4 WC's in our history? I know that's better than most asain teams but nowhere nearly as successful as SK, Japan (both consistent WC participants from 98 to present, SK from 94 onward) and even Saudi who participated in 4 consecutive WCs. yes they got dominated in half those tournaments but for Asian teams the primary goal is to just be a participant in the WC, not to get good results. this lack of consistency by in large is due to poor planning from IFF, constant appointment of incompetent coaches (mayeli, GN, Daie, etc.), and topped off with even more corruption/garbage. Iran always has the potential to do something special for the reason you named: the talent of our players but seems to fall short half the time because of the reasons I listed.

I definitely think the ppl who say we have a 10% chance of making it to Russia are making a mockery out of themselves but their initial concern is 100% valid IMO which is that if we follow the same trend we have followed in the past we are going straight down hill, regardless of our talent. just look at post 98' TM and you will have your answer.

GA jan, I see what you're trying to say, Our consistency is far from being comparable to SK and Japan, but 8-0ers? Sure, they have made the WC 4 times like us, the last time being in 2006, but what has happened since? Failiure to qualify to South Africa, finishing last with 0 points in a group with Japan, Syria and Jordan in the 2011 Asian Cup, getting kicked out of 2014 WCQ in the first round, kicked out of group stage in this year's Asian cup, 10th in Asian rankings, Iran has never ever been that terrible. 8-0ers are always up and down.

They've had their period of "success" during that same time they made the WC consecutively but that period is over since a long time, right after that "golden generation" of theirs retired, Saudi Arabia is now nothing more than an inconsistent 2nd rate Asian team. No other country in Asia has been more consistent than Iran other than Japan, SK and Australia, and Saudi Arabia certainly isn't.
I also don't believe in the trend which is more of a superstition than a serious reference, we make it once every 2 WC since 98 but I am confident with the wave of talented players we have atm, some moving to Europe that early, we will make it this time as well.

Saying that Iran is nothing without CQ is a massive disrespect to every TM player IMO and it's an insult to talented footballers like Azmoun, Jahanbakhsh and co when some say that we won't make it to Russia now that our head coach is gone. Every coach, every players won't be here for ever, and we will move on just like every time to build on a next generation.

[Ando Teymourian]

^ I don't think they doubt our chances because of the players we have.

But the reality is that there is an enormous chance that the next coach of TM is going to be appointed by a caveman named Goudarzi and supported by donkey named Asadi.

If that is the case, our chances are vastly diminished.

[PersianLegion]

GA jan, I see what you're trying to say, Our consistency is far from being comparable to SK and Japan, but 8-0ers? Sure, they have made the WC 4 times like us, the last time being in 2006, but what has happened since? Getting kicked out of 2014 WCQ in the first round, kicked out of group stage in this year's Asian cup, 10th in Asian rankings, Iran has never ever been that terrible. 8-0ers are always up and down.
They've had their period of "success" during that same time they made the WC consecutively but that period is over since a long time, right after that "golden generation" of theirs retired, Saudi Arabia is now nothing more than an inconsistent 2nd rate Asian team. No other country in Asia has been more consistent than Iran other than Japan, SK and Australia, and Saudi Arabia certainly isn't.
I also don't believe in the trend which is more of a superstition than a serious reference, we make it once every 2 WC since 98 but I am confident with the wave of talented players we have atm, some moving to Europe that early, we will make it this time as well.
Saying that Iran is nothing without CQ is a massive disrespect to every TM player IMO and it's an insult to talented footballers like Azmoun, Jahanbakhsh and co when some say that we won't make it to Russia now that our head coach is gone. Every coach, every players won't be here for ever, and we will move on just like every time to build on a next generation.

Zandi Joon all the info and past trends is there for you to predict the future. All we, most fans, are saying is that with having a rather less talented squad compared to 98, a more corrupted IFF, a broken economy, having a top level coach was our strong point. Losing that and adding another incompetent Iranian coach will repeat the same cycle and reduces our chance of qualification to 2018 WC. That is now a fact either you like it or not.

[Z Joon]

^ I don't think they doubt our chances because of the players we have.

But the reality is that there is an enormous chance that the next coach of TM is going to be appointed by a caveman named Goudarzi and supported by donkey named Asadi.

If that is the case, our chances are vastly diminished.

I don't know if our chances are diminished but I can't believe any team has more chance to qualify other than the usual three Australia, Japan and SK. Uzbekistan? way too inconsistent and their squad is getting very old.
Iraq? Not in this lifetime, they are desperate for replacements for their old generation and don't have a better striker than 50 year old granpa Younis, barely made it out of the easiest group of the 2015 Asian cup, they are looking terrible. The way things are going for their country nowadays, their league is going to turn from shit to shittiest, and they will slowly decline even more.
UAE? Very much a one man show, they are improving but they haven't shown that they are consistent enough, to qualify you need incredible consistency. 8-0ers? You know it. Etc..Etc...

On paper we should make it and there is no need to panic just yet, nothing has even happened. For now we can enjoy the growth of the likes of Azmoun and co... Saudi with all their world class foreign coaches couldn't do sh*t last years, let's stay positive and believe in our squad.

Zandi Joon all the info and past trends is there for you to predict the future. All we, most fans, are saying is that with having a rather less talented squad compared to 98, a more corrupted IFF, a broken economy, having a top level coach was our strong point. Losing that and adding another incompetent Iranian coach will repeat the same cycle and reduces our chance of qualification to 2018 WC. That is now a fact either you like it or not.

Refer to my older posts, losing a strong coach or not, we have one of the 4 best teams on paper and some of the top prospects in Asia and we should make it ahead of all the other teams except the usual trio.

Too much useless drama already and it's too early, makes us look like fools. Let's wait and see who IFF appoints as coach, I don't think they are going to mess up that badly that it will affect our chances, after all they are the ones that brought Carlos. Let's hope that they chose the right person.

[irani8perspolis]

Too much useless drama already and it's too early, makes us look like fools. Let's wait and see who IFF appoints as coach, I don't think they are going to mess up that badly that it will affect our chances, after all they are the ones that brought Carlos. Let's hope that they chose the right person.

Zandi jan don't jump to the conclusion that Queiroz is gone for good yet, with all this news we are getting from the TM Camp and how players begged him to stay, I don't think he will leave just yet. Also remember after WC? He said almost the same thing, and foreign media said Querioz was gone and started linking him to QPR or whoever, Queiroz fanboys abandoned TM and members opened "Thank you CQ" threads on PFDC, and what happened in the end? He extended. We are going through the same cycle right now and honestly if he announces he will stay after the Sweden game I wouldn't be suprised at all.

[Ando Teymourian]

I don't know if our chances are diminished but I can't believe any team has more chance to qualify other than the usual three Australia, Japan and SK. Uzbekistan? way too inconsistent and their squad is getting very old.
Iraq? Not in this lifetime, they are desperate for replacements for their old generation and don't have a better striker than 50 year old granpa Younis, barely made it out of the easiest group of the 2015 Asian cup, they are looking terrible. The way things are going for their country nowadays, their league is going to turn from shit to shittiest, and they will slowly decline even more.
UAE? Very much a one man show, they are improving but they haven't shown that they are consistent enough, to qualify you need incredible consistency. 8-0ers? You know it. Etc..Etc...

On paper we should make it and there is no need to panic just yet, nothing has even happened. For now we can enjoy the growth of the likes of Azmoun and co... Saudi with all their world class foreign coaches couldn't do sh*t last years, let's stay positive and believe in our squad.



Refer to my older posts, losing a strong coach or not, we have one of the 4 best teams on paper and some of the top prospects in Asia and we should make it ahead of all the other teams except the usual trio.

Too much useless drama already and it's too early, makes us look like fools. Let's wait and see who IFF appoints as coach, I don't think they are going to mess up that badly that it will affect our chances, after all they are the ones that brought Carlos. Let's hope that they chose the right person.

Paper is always a different story, which I am sure you already know. We were probably 2nd strongest on paper in 2002. We were very strong on paper in 2007 AC as well.


Anyways, as you said, lets just wait and see what happens. Maybe CQ won't even leave. I know they are only friendlies, but the Chile and Sweden games can turn the tide of events quickly in either direction.

[Z Joon]

Zandi jan don't jump to the conclusion that Queiroz is gone for good yet, with all this news we are getting from the TM Camp and how players begged him to stay, I don't think he will leave just yet. Also remember after WC? He said almost the same thing, and foreign media said Querioz was gone and started linking him to QPR or whoever, Queiroz fanboys abandoned TM and members opened "Thank you CQ" threads on PFDC, and what happened in the end? He extended. We are going through the same cycle right now and honestly if he announces he will stay after the Sweden game I wouldn't be suprised at all.

That's true and honestly even though I'm not CQ's biggest fan I would prefer him staying under these consequences. There was several times where we heard that he "resigned" but he came back. But my point is, even if he resigns, there is absolutely no need to dramatize the way some do here, it's certainly not the end of the world. CQ will move on one day or the other, our best players are not also here forever and will retire, but we replace them and move on to start a new chapter.

Now people have the choice to be ridiculous plastic fans that believe Iran is nothing without CQ, or you can stay collected and believe in our players. A coach can't do anything without quality players, so people should stop thinking CQ is the magician that turns Iran, a team that is Afghanistan normally, into a footballing nation. He coached Mozambique and UAE before, I don't think they went to the WC or achieved wonders, why?
Saudi Arabia with all their foreign World class coaches, some of them better than CQ, are pilling poop in recent years, why is that? People instead of giving credit to our team give 98% of the credit to CQ, so it's normal that if he leaves they get upset. I have no doubts in my mind that CQ brought unity and organisation to the team, but our players need to be credited as much if not more than him, you just don't see that in most CQ diehard fans.

Most of those people are probably kids that started following Iran in 2011 and think we were nothing before. Everyone should stay calm and wait to see what will happen, stop acting like we will lose to Bhutan when CQ is gone.

Regardless of our headcoach Iran would be the 4th more likely to qualify with the players we have, most non-Iranians would say that and then on the other side you we have some Iranians that disrespect their own team like that, totally shocking, it's an international shame and I'm not surprised that even insignificant Iraqis laugh at us.

[PersianLegion]

Mayeli koh an.

[ParthianDE]

Iran should bring in German coaches at all levels, starting from youth levels and have them work with assistant Iranian coaches with great attitude, such as Mansourian.

Germany is and always has been and always will be the greatest footballing nation.

It doesn't even have to be super expensive, famous, hi level coaches, esp. on the youth levels.

Just bring in competent people and learn.