Kashani, Khakpour, Mayeli Must produce Olympic qualification, No excuses

[xerexes]

... LUNACY is failing to acknowledge that it's EXTREMELY rare for a manager to criticize a ref after a winning game.

No, it is not, genius. No, it is not. You really are absolutely clueless.

... LUNCAY is failing to acknowledge that it's EXTREMELY rare for a manager to name individual instances where a ref should or should not have handed out yellow cards which would have made no difference to the result of the game.

Again, completely uninformed nonsense You're just pulling this stuff out of you know where. You really have no clue. None.

... LUNACY is failing to acknowledge that Williams was the way Williams was and CQ ought have known about it and shut his mouth after the game, had he done his homework right.

Had he done WHAT homework?... Are you honestly dense enough that you still don't get it? The refs for the second round had NOT been assigned yet! All this "CQ should have known Williams is vengeful" crap would only make sense if it was already known at the time that Williams would be in charge of the Iraq game. This clearly was not the case. That you remain oblivious to this is downright pitiful.

On that note, I suggest you recite the following Pink Floyd lines until you figure out where the lunacy lies
How you see Williams
The lunatic is on the grass.
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.
How you see CQ
"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!"
How you see yourself in all of this
Got to keep the loonies on the path.
How it really is
The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head
There's someone in my head but it's not me.

If you want lunacy just realize that you're a 43 year old man and wrote something as cheesy and dopey as the above. It doesn't get much wackier than that. Other than your "bird flu" essay of course.

[Bi-honar]

No, it is not, genius. No, it is not. You really are absolutely clueless.

LOL. You seriously don't know how retarded that sounds "no it's not, no it's not" without providing any evidence to the contrary?!

32 games in this Asian Cup ended with a victory. In how many of them (other than the game in question) did a winning manager criticize the referee (and please spare me you predictable drivel of but but the refereeing was perfect in every other game)?!

Same thing with 55 games in the last WC that also ended with a victory. How many times did a winning manager criticize the ref? Go back to the last Euro, the previous Asian Cup and the last WC. How many times genius? How often as a percentage of total games do coaches get fined in international tournaments, let alone coaches coming off a win?!

Had he done WHAT homework?... Are you honestly dense enough that you still don't get it? The refs for the second round had NOT been assigned yet! All this "CQ should have known Williams is vengeful" crap would only make sense if it was already known at the time that Williams would be in charge of the Iraq game. This clearly was not the case. That you remain oblivious to this is downright pitiful.

LOL. Khob khengi digeh. It doesn't matter if he knew for sure that we would run into Williams again. In a tournament setting with 30+ games and only 10 non-Iranian refs and only one from the host country, an intelligent person (yes, I know you have a hard time relating to that) would very much consider the possibility that he'd run into the same ref again, especially the further he goes.

If you want lunacy just realize that you're a 43 year old man

You got me there. I shouldn't be wasting my time with someone who talks and acts like a rude, spoiled 6 year old.

[clipsport]

No one is allowed to make excuses. except CQ.

[O-ZoNe]

And the lunacy just won't stop Apparently CQ was not only the first coach to criticize an incompetent ref after a game, he was also supposed to be psychic and predict that the exact ref would be appointed to our first elimination match against all reasonable expectations! I'm as jaded as it gets when it comes to AFC, and even I was surprised when the nimrods pulled this stunt. You wouldn't even see this in Africa. When there have been issues after a match regarding a ref and a coach has been fined for criticizing him, the last thing you'd expect is for that exact ref to be appointed just two matches later to a game involving that same coach! Because the cup organizers know doing something like this at the very least generates unneeded controversy and at worst it results in what we got.
And the suggestion that CQ's criticism was 'unnecessary' is equally baseless. Williams was letting Bahrain players get away with repeated fouls and elbows to the point Haghighi finally took it upon himself to body check one of them because he could see the ref wasn't doing anything to stop him. It's perfectly normal for a coach to call out this crap after a match and it's silly to pretend otherwise. The only thing wrong and out of the ordinary was on AFC's part.

Yes of course, our resident Xbox expert with yet another colorful Chinaskiesque contribution!

Unlike you, I'm not an expert in lunacy but one would think that...

... LUNACY is failing to acknowledge that it's EXTREMELY rare for a manager to criticize a ref after a winning game.

... LUNCAY is failing to acknowledge that it's EXTREMELY rare for a manager to name individual instances where a ref should or should not have handed out yellow cards which would have made no difference to the result of the game.

... LUNACY is failing to acknowledge that it's unheard of for a national team manager in a tournament to say a ref is not at the level of the tournament or even worse the game, AND

... LUNACY is failing to acknowledge that Williams was the way Williams was and CQ ought have known about it and shut his mouth after the game, had he done his homework right.

On that note, I suggest you recite the following Pink Floyd lines until you figure out where the lunacy lies

How you see Williams:
The lunatic is on the grass.
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.

How you see CQ:
"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!"

How you see yourself in all of this
Got to keep the loonies on the path.

How it really is
The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head
There's someone in my head but it's not me.

Lunacy? You want Lunacy? How about appointing Ali "the wizard of tehran" Karimi aka mr. sh*t disturber as part of your technical committee before a major tournament? How about having a trail of destruction left in the wake of almost every place you have worked, from Ronaldo in Portugal, being blamed for Gerard Pique leaving ManU, to the S. African Federation and bailing on them before the WC...just to name some major issues. The guy has hard a hard nose my way or the high way attitude for so long it's ridiculous. As Einstein said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting change! Even TM game plan seems unaltered in the 4 years he has been in charge, regardless of the opponent or situation!

[xerexes]

LOL. You seriously don't know how retarded that sounds "no it's not, no it's not" without providing any evidence to the contrary?!
32 games in this Asian Cup ended with a victory. In how many of them (other than the game in question) did a winning manager criticize the referee (and please spare me you predictable drivel of but but the refereeing was perfect in every other game)?!
Same thing with 55 games in the last WC that also ended with a victory. How many times did a winning manager criticize the ref? Go back to the last Euro, the previous Asian Cup and the last WC. How many times genius? How often as a percentage of total games do coaches get fined in international tournaments, let alone coaches coming off a win?!

Just shaking my head at your childlike ignorance You're just making your own silly arbitrary criteria for when a coach should or should not criticize a referee! Calling out the ref's incompetence when he's put your players at risk does NOT depend on whether or not you won the game. When a ref keeps letting your players get fouled and elbowed, to the point one of your guys has to take matters into his own hands and almost start a fight, the coach has every right to complain after the game. This happens, should happen, and has no relation to winning or losing.

LOL. Khob khengi digeh. It doesn't matter if he knew for sure that we would run into Williams again. In a tournament setting with 30+ games and only 10 non-Iranian refs and only one from the host country, an intelligent person (yes, I know you have a hard time relating to that) would very much consider the possibility that he'd run into the same ref again, especially the further he goes.

You're beyond kheng. Once again, when the coach has seen his players get fouled left and right without protection from the ref, it's perfectly reasonable to point out the issue and complain about it after the game. To suggest that he shouldn't have done that because the most corrupt football organization on the planet decided to use his rightful complaint against him two matches later is downright stupid. The only side to blame here is AFC and its shameful lack of ethics. Then again you're the same guy who blamed Palestine cancelling a friendly on CQ not being present to greet them Compared to that gem this "homework" babble is almost sane.

[Kiarash]

Why so many long posts?

[saadat_abad]

Baba stop it already! Fuck man.

[Bi-honar]

Just shaking my head at your childlike ignorance You're just making your own silly arbitrary criteria for when a coach should or should not criticize a referee! Calling out the ref's incompetence when he's put your players at risk does NOT depend on whether or not you won the game. When a ref keeps letting your players get fouled and elbowed, to the point one of your guys has to take matters into his own hands and almost start a fight, the coach has every right to complain after the game. This happens, should happen, and has no relation to winning or losing.

You're beyond kheng. Once again, when the coach has seen his players get fouled left and right without protection from the ref, it's perfectly reasonable to point out the issue and complain about it after the game. To suggest that he shouldn't have done that because the most corrupt football organization on the planet decided to use his rightful complaint against him two matches later is downright stupid. The only side to blame here is AFC and its shameful lack of ethics. Then again you're the same guy who blamed Palestine cancelling a friendly on CQ not being present to greet them Compared to that gem this "homework" babble is almost sane.

LMAO. You're the one who comes up with every little justification that in your puny little head serves your argument but makes absolutely no sense to any educated and objective person and I'm being arbitrary?!

You're the one who always makes comments like this always happens or never happens, but absolutely refuse to provide any examples and just go on some irrelevant rude drivel about something else and I'm being arbitrary?

I'm done with this conversation, but just wanted you to know that if you jump in like an ass next time with your typically rude and uncultured comments and personal attacks, instead of intelligently addressing the points that are being brought up, which is admittedly and obviously very difficult for you, you'll get the same reception.

[xerexes]

Lunacy? You want Lunacy? How about appointing Ali "the wizard of tehran" Karimi aka mr. sh*t disturber as part of your technical committee before a major tournament? How about having a trail of destruction left in the wake of almost every place you have worked, from Ronaldo in Portugal, being blamed for Gerard Pique leaving ManU, to the S. African Federation and bailing on them before the WC...just to name some major issues. The guy has hard a hard nose my way or the high way attitude for so long it's ridiculous. As Einstein said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting change! Even TM game plan seems unaltered in the 4 years he has been in charge, regardless of the opponent or situation!

I'll make it simple and easy for you kiddo: When the entire team is behind this coach in a way I've never seen in an Iranian side in my lifetime, when a player like Dejagah who has played in Bundesliga and the EPL says this guy is the best coach he's ever trained with, I couldn't care less what some random guy on the internet whose claim to fame is supposedly coaching 14 year old girls has to say about him. If you and that other genius think you're more qualified than Dejagah and Gucci to judge who should lead this national team, god bless you skippy. Just don't be surprised when you're not taken seriously.

[xerexes]

LMAO. You're the one who comes up with every little justification that in your puny little head serves your argument but makes absolutely no sense to any educated and objective person and I'm being arbitrary?!

An educated and objective person would shoot themselves if they got drunk and said the things you say supposedly sober. Don't kid yourself

but just wanted you to know that if you jump in like an ass next time with your typically rude and uncultured comments and personal attacks, instead of intelligently addressing the points that are being brought up, which is admittedly and obviously very difficult for you, you'll get the same reception.

Geet off it! If you don't want to be called out for spewing uninformed nonsense consider getting a clue first And I couldn't care less how you "receive" it.

[rugs]

Just shaking my head at your childlike ignorance You're just making your own silly arbitrary criteria for when a coach should or should not criticize a referee! Calling out the ref's incompetence when he's put your players at risk does NOT depend on whether or not you won the game. When a ref keeps letting your players get fouled and elbowed, to the point one of your guys has to take matters into his own hands and almost start a fight, the coach has every right to complain after the game. This happens, should happen, and has no relation to winning or losing.

You're beyond kheng. Once again, when the coach has seen his players get fouled left and right without protection from the ref, it's perfectly reasonable to point out the issue and complain about it after the game. To suggest that he shouldn't have done that because the most corrupt football organization on the planet decided to use his rightful complaint against him two matches later is downright stupid. The only side to blame here is AFC and its shameful lack of ethics. Then again you're the same guy who blamed Palestine cancelling a friendly on CQ not being present to greet them Compared to that gem this "homework" babble is almost sane.

Lol, that's typical Irooni mentality. Be grateful because you won the match and shut up.

It's like saying, you shouldn't complain when your house gets trashed but not robbed.

[rugs]

Lunacy? You want Lunacy? How about appointing Ali "the wizard of tehran" Karimi aka mr. sh*t disturber as part of your technical committee before a major tournament? How about having a trail of destruction left in the wake of almost every place you have worked, from Ronaldo in Portugal, being blamed for Gerard Pique leaving ManU, to the S. African Federation and bailing on them before the WC...just to name some major issues. The guy has hard a hard nose my way or the high way attitude for so long it's ridiculous. As Einstein said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting change! Even TM game plan seems unaltered in the 4 years he has been in charge, regardless of the opponent or situation!

Let's play this game again. Let me simply ask: Do you think that maybe you could possibly be wrong and the IFF in fact told CQ he must pick an Iranian assistant and his choices are Farnaz Majidi, Ali Karimi and .......?


below isn't directed towards you, just in general.

What I don't get about these complaints is that on the one had, people complain when CQ allegedly accepts his situation vis-a-vis IFF, IR and a corrupt system and on the other hand get upset when he allegedly puts his foot down and tries to resist the corrupt system.

My suggestion is to stick to the what is known with your complaints. Not the what I think I know.

[clipsport]

you bringing up the previous TM's is even more laughable as their results weren't nearly as good as this TMs.

That's really not true. You can look it up yourself. At least in terms of results, CQ didn't do anything special.

if u had any common sense you would know that these two friendlies are the first top quality friendlies TM has gotten in the last 4 years. IFF's lack of money and planning is what has screwed TM the most in terms of preparation.....if any coach had to prepare TM under the circumstances CQ did going into both the WC and AC the results would have been atrocious.

I'm really getting sick of these "lack of friendlies" excuse for TM poor results.

1) CQ prefers playing weaker teams. He did the same before WC2010 with Portugal

Here are the teams Portugal played under CQ before WC2010.
China
Cape Verde Islands
Cameroon
Mozambique

source: http://us.soccerway.com/teams/portug.../1772/matches/

2) We had a ton of preparation before the WC and AC. We bullshitted our league and cut the # of teams so he can have his 4 months of camp before WC.
For AC, we had a Portugal camp where we played Portuguese clubs and then a South African camp where we played South African teams + South Korea and Iraq friendlies.

CQ saying we had no friendlies/preparation is simply him making excuses and blaming others. Basically covering his own ass.

[Iran007]

please dont use IRANIAN tactics to make this an CQ vs Iranian coaches Issue.

This is simply a time that you either "shit or get off the pot".

Iranian football community for years and years made Iran a hell to work in for any qualified coach that has come to Iran. Its clear that these coaches are scare, hungry and unable to work with anyone better than them.

Now CQ is GONE>......

No more excuses....
You must produce.
lets see this beautiful, fluid, offensive football that CQ and other coaches are inhibiting iranians to play.

Mr Khakpour and Mr. Kashani and Mr. Mayeli,
YOU MUST MAKE THE OLYMPICS.
No more excuses.

[clipsport]

No more excuses.

I agree 100%. I'm so sick of coaches losing and blaming others for it. Either take some responsibility or don't accept the position in the first place.