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    #46
    Originally posted by O-ZoNe View Post
    Lunacy? You want Lunacy? How about appointing Ali "the wizard of tehran" Karimi aka mr. sh*t disturber as part of your technical committee before a major tournament? How about having a trail of destruction left in the wake of almost every place you have worked, from Ronaldo in Portugal, being blamed for Gerard Pique leaving ManU, to the S. African Federation and bailing on them before the WC...just to name some major issues. The guy has hard a hard nose my way or the high way attitude for so long it's ridiculous. As Einstein said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting change! Even TM game plan seems unaltered in the 4 years he has been in charge, regardless of the opponent or situation!
    Portugal national team, he lost to the eventual champion of the world, Spain, by a score of 1-0. Now if this is what you define as "trail of destruction" , I hope our football team is fully destructed with lots of trail behind it.



    Once again, a world class coach has certain expectations of which this football federation is clearly not willing to deliver. Let's see if Kafashian and asadi and the rest of that ignorant bunch can recruit any well known coach with a decent resume after embarrassing a nation with one stunt after another. The next worldclass coach I am sure is just dying to sign up with a federation that doesn't pay salaries, doesn't provide adequate training facility or friendlies, and for good measures, stops them at the airport for "tax reasons". I suggest IFF should hire ISIS for public relations just in case we need that last minute sales pitch to convince worldclass coaches to sign with Iran.
    “It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

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      #47
      ^DAMET GARM, hal kardam!!

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        #48
        Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post
        and they also had players from Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A and EPL ..... versus IPL, dutch 2nd league, qatar and kuwait ...... so while none of those coaches ""got whatever they wanted"", they did "get whatever they needed"
        Who, our Omid team? Who's from all those leagues? All they have are jb and azmoun, plus a Chinese league recent transfer. The rest are from IPL and lower division. I think either you are talking about another team, or I am.

        They also didn't get jack in terms of funding.

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          #49
          Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post
          Portugal national team, he lost to the eventual champion of the world, Spain, by a score of 1-0. Now if this is what you define as "trail of destruction" , I hope our football team is fully destructed with lots of trail behind it.

          .
          Come one mate, forget about the phrase of ''trail of destruction''. if you look at it, whenever he was the ultimate authority he has not been exemplary except the Portugal youth team stint.
          In most, ... not all I admit, cases he was at best mediocre.

          However when he had another person of higher authority (Fergi) to make the crucial and final decisions, he proved successful.

          Which sums up as he isn't all that great as a head coach, but is a great right hand man.

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            #50
            Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post
            in the 2010 WC with the Portugal national team, he lost to the eventual champion of the world, Spain, by a score of 1-0. Now if this is what you define as "trail of destruction" , I hope our football team is fully destructed with lots of trail behind it.
            Once again, a world class coach has certain expectations of which this football federation is clearly not willing to deliver. Let's see if Kafashian and asadi and the rest of that ignorant bunch can recruit any well known coach with a decent resume after embarrassing a nation with one stunt after another. The next worldclass coach I am sure is just dying to sign up with a federation that doesn't pay salaries, doesn't provide adequate training facility or friendlies, and for good measures, stops them at the airport for "tax reasons". I suggest IFF should hire ISIS for public relations just in case we need that last minute sales pitch to convince worldclass coaches to sign with Iran.

            I also like to remind everyone that the goal Spain scored was OFFSIDE. That goal should not have counted. Pause at the 2:00 min mark.


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              #51
              Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
              Come one mate, forget about the phrase of ''trail of destruction''. if you look at it, whenever he was the ultimate authority he has not been exemplary except the Portugal youth team stint.
              In most, ... not all I admit, cases he was at best mediocre.

              However when he had another person of higher authority (Fergi) to make the crucial and final decisions, he proved successful.

              Which sums up as he isn't all that great as a head coach, but is a great right hand man.
              how can anyone forget about a "trail of destruction" comment. It's just too comical. These type of nonsense comments are made, and repeated, and after a while, people start to buy into it.


              Let's take a step back and remember what happened to TM during Daei/Ghotbi's era even with all the super stars we had. Think back to when GN was in charge. No one can argue against CQ's result in the WCQ. We finished first. No one cares if we scored beautiful goals or if our GD was in the hemisphere. The bottom line is, he qualified us for the WC. He delivered which is more than most of our vatani coaches can ever claim.
              “It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

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                #52
                Originally posted by Iran007 View Post
                please dont use IRANIAN tactics to make this an CQ vs Iranian coaches Issue.

                This is simply a time that you either "shit or get off the pot".

                Iranian football community for years and years made Iran a hell to work in for any qualified coach that has come to Iran. Its clear that these coaches are scare, hungry and unable to work with anyone better than them.

                Now CQ is GONE>......

                No more excuses....
                You must produce.
                lets see this beautiful, fluid, offensive football that CQ and other coaches are inhibiting iranians to play.

                Mr Khakpour and Mr. Kashani and Mr. Mayeli,
                YOU MUST MAKE THE OLYMPICS.
                No more excuses.
                Why did CQ decide to come to Iran and be the coach for TM? If he is as great as everyone says, why did he end up in Iran? Because of the kindness of his heart?

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by mahestan View Post
                  Why did CQ decide to come to Iran and be the coach for TM? If he is as great as everyone says, why did he end up in Iran? Because of the kindness of his heart?
                  money talks first my friend.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post
                    Once again, a world class coach has certain expectations of which this football federation is clearly not willing to deliver.
                    I don't think it's a question of them not being willing to deliver so much as not being able to deliver. At the end of the day it is what it is.

                    And CQ being as AMAZING as he is and putting the selfish feelings aside, will surely be better off somewhere else and working with a professional organization.

                    I'm sure he will build on his exemplary and most remembered and talked about career achievements of losing to Spain 1-0, losing to Argentina 1-0, and beating S. Korea 1-0 with 10 amateur special Olympics boys - of course not to downplay his great achievement of elevating Iran to a 1st place finish in an Asian Cup group for the 1st and last time ever.

                    It's tough to outdo himself on these accomplishments, but if anyone can do it, CQ would be the man. So best of luck to him.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by saadat_abad View Post
                      money talks first my friend.
                      That's my point. Some people are arguing that with CQ leaving no other coach is willing to come to Iran, but as we all know "money talks, bullshit walks".

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
                        I don't think it's a question of them not being willing to deliver so much as not being able to deliver. At the end of the day it is what it is.

                        And CQ being as AMAZING as he is and putting the selfish feelings aside, will surely be better off somewhere else and working with a professional organization.

                        I'm sure he will build on his exemplary and most remembered and talked about career achievements of losing to Spain 1-0, losing to Argentina 1-0, and beating S. Korea 1-0 with 10 amateur special Olympics boys - of course not to downplay his great achievement of elevating Iran to a 1st place finish in an Asian Cup group for the 1st and last time ever.

                        It's tough to outdo himself on these accomplishments, but if anyone can do it, CQ would be the man. So best of luck to him.
                        Iran got 1st place finish in Asian Cup group in the following years:

                        1972, 1976, 1980, 1996, 2000, 2007 and 2011.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post
                          only someone who is wearing dark shades doesn't see the whole picture ........ His reason for quitting is not Azmoun or JB. That may have been the tipping point, but it was not the reason as you mistakenly claim.
                          a worldclass coach has a set of expectations far different than a hezbollahi coach. The worldclass coach expects some level of professionalism from the football federation. Granted, this is Iran, and he has adjusted somewhat, but paying salaries on time, having good training facilities, and good teams to train with are a minimum set of requirements that any worldclass coach will ask for.
                          The hezbollahi coach on the other hand, expects to have a working fax machine. Do you want to have a working fax machine as your ultimate goal? if so, then you are on the right track.
                          For the rest of us, a working fax machine is not the standard. In fact many of us do not even remember how to use a fax machine. We have progressed.
                          offside jan, i agree that my shades do not see things you see, you have special shades which you see whole pictures of non existing pictures with. i never said his reason for quitting was because of jahanbakhsh or azmoun in fact i was talking about him being wrong in this situation and khakpour being right.


                          look we have to ask ourselves what we are paying cq for, if he is to over see our whole football and make big changes then he is worth every penny. however if he is there to just see his own results and be result oriented only for tm then he should ve been fired yesterday when he did not get results. if not after the world cup (which i agree that at that time it would ve been a mistake to fire him) then he should ve been fired already after asian cup.


                          in this situation with azmoun and jahanbakhsh, he is showing that he does not give a damn about our Olympic qualification and seems more interested in his own job as tm head coach thus imo and for the reasons mentioned above has to be judged by his results alone and no matter how many xbox aficionados say his results are spectacular they are indeed sub par and not worth all this, besides i think cq has given iran what he knows and can not add anything more. he has done a great job we must build on his work and improve as current level is not going to win anything of note.
                          Last edited by hzv; 03-24-2015, 04:40 PM.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by OFFSIDE_1 View Post
                            how can anyone forget about a "trail of destruction" comment. It's just too comical. These type of nonsense comments are made, and repeated, and after a while, people start to buy into it.
                            And this is the only reason why I even waste time arguing against the nonsense. Because this is how the lie that "CQ is afraid of big teams" was created from an article where he had actually asked for Australia instead of Korea. That lie was passed around here as a fact for months because no one bothered to call these guys on their drivel.

                            If it was just our take against theirs I could give them the benefit of the doubt (even though 88% of people in Iran happen to share our view... even though comments that support CQ get 5-10 times as many green arrows on Iranian sites than those bashing him). But here you got the entire Team Melli squad on one side, united behind this coach in a way I've never seen in our football, and on the other side you got a handful of basement analysts who think they know better than the players themselves who is more fit to lead them and are more willing to side with a caveman like Asadi than someone like Dejagah. Ashkan apparently doesn't know what he's talking about when he says CQ is the best coach he's seen after years in Germany and England. What matters is that some internet dude who watches football twice a month doesn't approve, and if you challenge them one rants about bird flu and the other claims he's coached girls in middle school.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by xerexes View Post
                              And this is the only reason why I even waste time arguing against the nonsense. Because this is how the lie that "CQ is afraid of big teams" was created from an article where he had actually asked for Australia instead of Korea. That lie was passed around here as a fact for months because no one bothered to call these guys on their drivel.

                              If it was just our take against theirs I could give them the benefit of the doubt (even though 88% of people in Iran happen to share our view... even though comments that support CQ get 5-10 times as many green arrows on Iranian sites than those bashing him). But here you got the entire Team Melli squad on one side, united behind this coach in a way I've never seen in our football, and on the other side you got a handful of basement analysts who think they know better than the players themselves who is more fit to lead them and are more willing to side with a caveman like Asadi than someone like Dejagah. Ashkan apparently doesn't know what he's talking about when he says CQ is the best coach he's seen after years in Germany and England. What matters is that some internet dude who watches football twice a month doesn't approve, and if you challenge them one rants about bird flu and the other claims he's coached girls in middle school.
                              this is proof that you are wrong. majority is always wrong, iranian majority is the most wrong of all the majorities. when are we going to go to that kid's house and smash his PlayStation? now that is fun.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by hzv View Post
                                this is proof that you are wrong. majority is always wrong, iranian majority is the most wrong of all the majorities. when are we going to go to that kid's house and smash his PlayStation? now that is fun.
                                And there it is The logic of the basement analyst Apparently "majority is always wrong". That explains why democracy sucks compared to the one-man rule we've flourished and prospered so much under! The majority is "always wrong", even if that majority happens to include the entire national team squad. Even if that majority includes national team players who've played professionally in Europe and have repeatedly called for this coach to stay and called him the best they've seen. All of that doesn't mean anything. What's important is the super-informed opinion of the minority that includes donkies like Goodarzi and Asadi and a couple of fruitloops on the internet jamesh kon binim baba.

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