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    #46
    Originally posted by Camran khan View Post
    the shir khorshid flag does not only belong to the Pahlavi dynasty.
    Aziz, I understand that and I truly respect the flag. But, based on his reasoning and focus on the negatives we can also look at all the bad/evil actions performed by the supporters of the flag and those who had authority under this flag.

    My point is that, if we wave the IR flag it in no way means we support the actions of IR!
    Those who wave the US flag all support the Vietnam war? The Iraq war? The awful genocides committed by those in power? Let's take politics out of it.

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      #47
      I understand some of you don't want to wave the IR flag. However, like many others said before me, we are kind of making fools out of ourselves with a lion and sun flag (shah flag) that will probably never be our official flag again. If anything, our flag in future would be just green-white-red without any symbols on it. (What I say here is my opinion)

      So for those who truly refuse to wave IR flag, just stick with green-white-red without symbols on it, if you can find one.

      EDIT: And let's not forget that we are scaring away future friendly offers because of this political shit.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Shah Abbas View Post
        No, waving the IR.Iran flag is acknowledging that this is our nationally accepted (by the people through revolution) and internationally accepted flag. The IR flag represents Iran. By waving that flag we show our support for Team Meli which represents IR.Iran.

        Based on your reasoning, if waving the IR flag is supporting Khomeini and oppression, then waving the Shir o Khorshid flag is supporting: Dictatorship, Savak mass torture and killing of Iranian people, MKO traitors... Do you want me to go on?

        If in the future there is another popular revolution and a new flag is accepted, then we will wave that flag which represents our nation.

        I'm your friend, the enemy is ignorance.
        I don't give a shit if it's internationally accepted, no the IR doesn't represent Iran, it's the only flag written in another language, how can you say that. And no by waving the flag you also show your support to IR.

        I love how how you compare the IR flag to komeini and oppression making it look soft and shir o khorshid flag with dictatorship, mass torture and killing of iranian people making it look much more harsh than the utterly barbaric horrible things IR has done to our nation and Iranians. What Shah has done is not even 1% of what cruelty IR has done.

        GTFO, because of people like you this regime has been standing. SHAME ON YOU!

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          #49
          Originally posted by Bessos View Post
          I understand some of you don't want to wave the IR flag. However, like many others said before me, we are kind of making fools out of ourselves with a lion and sun flag (shah flag) that will probably never be our official flag again. If anything, our flag in future would be just green-white-red without any symbols on it. (What I say here is my opinion)

          So for those who truly refuse to wave IR flag, just stick with green-white-red without symbols on it, if you can find one.

          EDIT: And let's not forget that we are scaring away future friendly offers because of this political shit.
          Who are you to tell people which flag to hold. I find the shirt khorshid flag awesome looking and it represents Iran in my eyes anyway, millions of iranians outside iran have it and inside of iran lots of people like it aswell but can't wave it.

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            #50
            Lion and sun is our flag.

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              #51
              This is the flag of Iran, This is an Iranian flag. Not some sikh inspired, foreign language inscribed, mullah designed flag.

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                #52
                The flag of our current team melli is the allah flag not the shir khorshid, it is disrespectful to our players and our team when fans bring politics into sports by bringing shir khorshid flags to the game, if you dont want to use the allah flag then get a flag with nothing in the middle, or a flag that says Iran in the middle... This kind of stuff actually brings our players morales down, when they see a bunch of fans bringing politics into their game
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by euphory View Post
                  I don't give a shit if it's internationally accepted, no the IR doesn't represent Iran, it's the only flag written in another language, how can you say that. And no by waving the flag you also show your support to IR.

                  I love how how you compare the IR flag to komeini and oppression making it look soft and shir o khorshid flag with dictatorship, mass torture and killing of iranian people making it look much more harsh than the utterly barbaric horrible things IR has done to our nation and Iranians. What Shah has done is not even 1% of what cruelty IR has done.

                  GTFO, because of people like you this regime has been standing. SHAME ON YOU!
                  Ir doesnt represent iran, but Team Melli does respresnt IR, that are the national team of the islamic republic of Iran, and play under the flag with the allah sign on it
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by shayan_esteghlali View Post
                    Ir doesnt represent iran, but Team Melli does respresnt IR, that are the national team of the islamic republic of Iran, and play under the flag with the allah sign on it
                    "Team Melli does melli represnt (sic) IR" Yeah, um, no. They are paid by Iranian tax payers and from our oil money which rightfully belongs to the Iranian people. We are paying for them, not mullahs.

                    Our players know they are playing for Iran and Iranians not IR. Have you forgotten how several of our players wore green wrist bands in support of iranian people during the green uprising? if they represented IR, They wouldn't have done that.



                    They represent Iran and Iranian people.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by shayan_esteghlali View Post
                      The flag of our current team melli is the allah flag not the shir khorshid, it is disrespectful to our players and our team when fans bring politics into sports by bringing shir khorshid flags to the game, if you dont want to use the allah flag then get a flag with nothing in the middle, or a flag that says Iran in the middle... This kind of stuff actually brings our players morales down, when they see a bunch of fans bringing politics into their game
                      How about no, it doesn't always have to be politics many Iranians just see shir o khorshid as their national flag and not some ugly ass forced arab flag.

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                        #56
                        Commentary about Iranian fans by swedish players & few pictures

                        Originally posted by TheBoss View Post
                        "Team Melli does melli represnt (sic) IR" Yeah, um, no. They are founded by Iranian tax payers and oil money which rightfully belongs to Iranian people. We are paying for them, not mullahs.

                        Our players know they are playing for Iran and Iranians not IR. Have you forgotten how several of our players wore green wrist bands in support of iranian people during the green uprising? if they represented IR, They wouldn't have done that.



                        They represent Iran and Iranian people.
                        Lol the green wristbands represented the political party of Mousavi, another sect of the IR government... Soooo...

                        I totally agree they represent the Iranian people above all else, but they play under the flag of the islamic republic, i might not be explaining myself perfectly, all i mean is that having a ir flag at a soccer game is not supporting the regime but rather the team, but having a shir khorshid flag at a game is a pure political move

                        I dont want to get into a political discussion, all i know is that team melli players dont like walking into a stadium and seeing shir khorshid flags, it causes problems, brings politics into a game of football, so the best solution is to bring a blank flag or a flag that says iran in the middle

                        Outside of football people are free to use and like any flag they want to, but please dont mix politics and sports
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by euphory View Post
                          How about no, it doesn't always have to be politics many Iranians just see shir o khorshid as their national flag and not some ugly ass forced arab flag.
                          They are free to see it as THEIR national flag, but its not the flag of team melli
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by shayan_esteghlali View Post
                            Lol the green wristbands represented the political party of Mousavi, another sect of the IR government... Soooo...

                            I dont want to get into a political discussion, all i know is that team melli players dont like walking into a stadium and seeing shir khorshid flags, it causes problems, brings politics into a game of football, so the best solution is to bring a blank flag or a flag that says iran in the middle

                            Outside of football people are free to use and like any flag they want to, but please dont mix politics and sports
                            but they wore green wrist bands which also would create problems for them, but they still did it... anyway, fine, I don't want to discuss politics too. lion and sun is our flag. that's the bottom line.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by euphory
                              gtfo dude, you don't know whats going on in their mind, they don't care at all. If the regime changes and shir o khorshid is accepted they play under it anyway, don't be such a sheep. Such scenarios is the perfect place to show your disagreement in a peaceful way.
                              Some team melli players might like the shir khorshid flag and accept it as their flag in their private lives, but im telling you none of them like seeing it in the stadium as it causes problems and dispute
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by euphory View Post
                                I don't give a shit if it's internationally accepted
                                After reading your great reasoning here, I put my hands up as a sign of defeat.

                                IR doesn't represent Iran in what way? The high turn-out in elections every 4 years? Whether we like it or not, IR represents Iran both internally and externally (for now).
                                As for the Green band around Karimi's wrist is a sign against IR? Because, I always thought that was support for Mousavi who took part in IR Presidential elections, no?

                                By, all means feel free to take your Shir o Khorshid flag the 'true' flag of Iran and embarrass us further.

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